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mpeck
12-15-2004, 09:34 AM
well id say that its immpossible to even to get close to dc with ANY sorc ok.. not even the godliest one since they have

BAD DEF
even with perfect res they suck some how
and ya they suck bad since dc is 95 to all res

and i would do pro barb who con or beserk
hammerdins
smiters
zealots
prob a zon but not sure ...
ya thats all i would choose to fight dc
and smiters shuold use darculs since they smite so fast that life tap gos on and smite will go hit him on and on and on and on and u steal loads of life and u will never die evern though u have bad res in hell lolno need for dracs on a smiter......exile has 15% chance for life tap, which is why i use laying of hands, it gives you 3 and 1/2 times more damage vs him.....i do 1k min, which is low, but good damage for a dclone smiter, that 350% makes me do 3.5k damage minimum, and with CoH, thats another 200% to demons, i go at least 5.5ki minimum to him (before the 50% damage reduce he has, which takes it down to 2.5k), and, ur wrong about smiters havin bad resists, my coh gives 65 resists, exile gives 40 resists (was on shield b4 it was made into exile), then 3 anya quests which is 30 more, perf mara's which is 30, then my 20 resist anni, which comes out to 185 resists, which hell is -100, which means i have stacked resists of 85

and, i'm @ 6 hits per second, which i believe 7 is the fastest, so that 6 hits @ 2.5k per second, thats like 15k per second, + all the crushing blow and deadly strike from gores, and guillhames face.......thats why many people dont believe i can kill him in 15-20 seconds, i try to explain it to them, but they just say "You know how much life he has??", but, if you do the math, thats 40 seconds without counting the crushing blow and deadly strike

Bolong
12-15-2004, 02:19 PM
laying of hands gives more dmg for smiters against demons?? didnt know that'll work, i nver tried killing dc using my smiter... & i suggest using doom or lacerator cuz they both have prevent monster heal, & lacerator can amp...

Dark_Convictor
12-15-2004, 03:21 PM
nice smiter mpeck i should make 1 but im gonna make a frostadin first. 7 hit per second is max?


i saw someone hitting at 10. it was scary. he took on 6 people and owned them all. i not takin crap people either im talking godly shit.

mpeck
12-15-2004, 09:10 PM
i use astreons because, i kill him so fast, i never even see his life go back up at all, and it gives more crushing blow (33% + 15% on gores, + 35% from guillhaume's face = 83%) as opposed to 50% w/ a different weapon, i would rather do crushing blow 3/4ths of the time then 1/2 the time, amp would be a good mod, but even though it doesnt take long to kill him, you still need life tap, cause he has powerful regular hits

Timetear
12-15-2004, 09:59 PM
can u post your stats, skills and equipment plz mpeck ?

mpeck
12-16-2004, 06:29 AM
i'll put together a guide w/ his build, then i'll follow Mud's '*Read before posting*' thread, and pm him the guide so he can add it to the pally guides (will do later, as in around 6-7 PM est.)

Dark_Convictor
12-16-2004, 11:03 AM
cool nice equip by the way (asteron how much that worth nowadays) i need 1 seeing as im startinga smiter now but itll be a while b4 i get up fully up and going cuz i wannafinish my frostadin first.

Bolong
12-16-2004, 11:23 AM
cool nice equip by the way (asteron how much that worth nowadays) i need 1 seeing as im startinga smiter now but itll be a while b4 i get up fully up and going cuz i wannafinish my frostadin first.
4+ runes for a +4 astreon on usw NL...

mpeck
12-16-2004, 11:45 AM
ok, guide submitted to Mud, should be in the pally guides after the next time he gets on

Timetear
12-16-2004, 04:14 PM
k thx, rep for u

FeNiXSuNfIrE
12-17-2004, 04:50 AM
i have a 40/15 Schaeffer...but i dont need it anymore, and i need a +4 Astreons... will my schaeffer even make a down payment on it?!?! lol. meanin is my schaeffer worth anything close to a +4 astreons???

Dark_Convictor
12-17-2004, 05:07 AM
thats not a bad price. 2 nigmas will get it or a 30 maras and a good nigma. thanx

Timetear
12-17-2004, 05:33 PM
anyone got a picture of a +4 Astreons ? i cant find it there (http://www.d2data.net/main.html)

Timetear
12-20-2004, 09:36 AM
mpek > cant u just post it there plz cos murderman doesn't seems to care about it ;)

mpeck
12-22-2004, 06:47 AM
got cheshire to post it, forgot mud was no longer a mod, lol