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what u think on the war in iraq success or failure - DeStRuCtIoN - 10-04-2004
i bet the government'll be blown up the moment those 'peacekeepers' leave.
what u think on the war in iraq success or failure - Silver Ice - 10-05-2004
i think the iraqi's should have just been left to rebuild their government. failure, bush shouldnt have intervened at all, he never found any evidence of nukes.
what u think on the war in iraq success or failure - Tearo - 10-05-2004
That wasnt the whole purpose on the war...bush MAIN purpose was and always was for the oil in iraq (but like in bush-style, he covered it as looking for weapons of mass destruction)
And now look at it..theres more security involved in proecting oil rigs than nuclear power plants in iraq..seems a little strange dont you think?
what u think on the war in iraq success or failure - kurups - 10-05-2004
Its a good thing what bush is doing over there
what u think on the war in iraq success or failure - TroGdoR - 10-07-2004
silver_ice1212 Wrote:i think the iraqi's should have just been left to rebuild their government. failure, bush shouldnt have intervened at all, he never found any evidence of nukes.And so you would lets hundreds of thousands of people be murdered every year by Saddam and the Baathists? Cuz that was what was happening before the U.S. intervened. I promise you that less Iraqis died from this war, then from Saddam's annual cleansing of opposition. Change annual to daily...It's the appeasers who we must look out for. Because of appeasers, countries like Iraq keep building up until they are a Nuclear threat capable of matching the U.S. And I'm sure that you want this? Thought so, and don't give me the whole "the the U.S. has enough problems at home to worry about" deal because the economy is getting better, unemployment has gone down, there haven't been any terrorist attacks due to a raised level of protection, and we now have a future ally in the Middle East. Do you realize how important a Democratic Iraq can be? Can you even begin to understand what this could start in the Middle East, currently the most dangerous area in the world. If you have been doing your reading, many Iranian civilians are noticing the benefits of Democracy. And many have started speaking out against the government. Just take your finger out of your ear and imagine two democracies in the Arab World. THen the Saudi civilians, Egyptians, Jordanians, Lebanese, Syrians, *takes a breath*, you get the picture, will start wondering why they too don't see those benefits that are well hidden from them in their oppressive, destructive, violent societies.
what u think on the war in iraq success or failure - Warslut - 10-07-2004
I think it was a failure... misruble failure...
what u think on the war in iraq success or failure - TroGdoR - 10-07-2004
Warslut Wrote:I think it was a failure... misruble failure...Everyone is entitled to an opinion. In 5 years from now, if Iraq is still a Democracy, and has only grown in strength as a nation, and Iran is on the brink of revolution, what will you say then?
what u think on the war in iraq success or failure - Warslut - 10-07-2004
In 5 years from now that may be, but as of right now I believe it's been a failure there.
what u think on the war in iraq success or failure - SoulessKnight - 10-07-2004
i think it is a complete failure right now.. and trogdor is right if that does happen it in my mind will be a success but to me the chances of that happen seem slim.. oh well we can hope for the best
what u think on the war in iraq success or failure - Mr. Fabulous - 10-07-2004
Jesus CHRIST it's gonna take nothing short of a miracle for you guy's to ever say anything is right! In 5 year's even if Iraq is a shining example of Democracy you'll still be saying it could have been handled better! Hindsight is 20/20. So tell me this if you all know what's best. What should have been done?
And why not give a reason when you say you disagree or agree with something? Because when you just give half an oppinion it come's out like your just following the masses (no offense meant).
what u think on the war in iraq success or failure - Rob - 10-07-2004
The Iraqi war was supposed to end a few months ago, no? We're still dying, no? We've found no weapons that can be classified as 'Weapons of Mass Destruction,' no? Sadaam is no longer in power, no? Their government is now in a position where the people can rule, no? We are no longer there, yes? Pull the **** out. Don't *****-foot around. Our soldiers are dying and we're scared to either pull out or send more in. It's a crock of shit. All or nothing. I mean, **** the fact we've shat on our allies opinions with this war. **** the fact that a percentage of the Iraqi citizens are ready for the conflict to end. **** the fact that our nation is split between anti-war and pro-war activism. **** the fact that half the people who vote don't REALLY know what the ****'s going on in Washington. **** all that shit. We've lost well over one thousand men, and we're still losing them. We're fighting for a cause that is no longer in Iraq. Granted, could the weapons have been moved? Of course. Were they? Probably. Are they there? Well, i'll just ask you if we've found them. You can lie to yourself if you want. Sadaam's gone and arguably there are no weapons//they aren't there. Why are we in Iraq? We've resolved the conflicts we went in for. Pull out.
Yet, we aren't going to pull out. That's where Americans **** me off. They are so ignorant to the real truth. What kinds of truths are we omitting? Everything. People are scared of the truth. The truth is an un-doctored news report. It's sheer facts. It's a plain picture. You won't see or hear any of this from the average American. It's so beyond sad it's not even funny.
what u think on the war in iraq success or failure - TroGdoR - 10-07-2004
Rob Wrote:The Iraqi war was supposed to end a few months ago, no? We're still dying, no? We've found no weapons that can be classified as 'Weapons of Mass Destruction,' no? Sadaam is no longer in power, no? Their government is now in a position where the people can rule, no? We are no longer there, yes? Pull the **** out. Don't *****-foot around. Our soldiers are dying and we're scared to either pull out or send more in. It's a crock of shit. All or nothing. I mean, **** the fact we've shat on our allies opinions with this war. **** the fact that a percentage of the Iraqi citizens are ready for the conflict to end. **** the fact that our nation is split between anti-war and pro-war activism. **** the fact that half the people who vote don't REALLY know what the ****'s going on in Washington. **** all that shit. We've lost well over one thousand men, and we're still losing them. We're fighting for a cause that is no longer in Iraq. Granted, could the weapons have been moved? Of course. Were they? Probably. Are they there? Well, i'll just ask you if we've found them. You can lie to yourself if you want. Sadaam's gone and arguably there are no weapons//they aren't there. Why are we in Iraq? We've resolved the conflicts we went in for. Pull out.I have no doubt, if you could vote you would have wanted Howard Dean as the candidate. You seem very angry, and this is not a flame war section. So I understand that politics makes you very emotional, but don't make reading your post verbally uncomfortable for other viewers in a section like Small Talk.
Yet, we aren't going to pull out. That's where Americans **** me off. They are so ignorant to the real truth. What kinds of truths are we omitting? Everything. People are scared of the truth. The truth is an un-doctored news report. It's sheer facts. It's a plain picture. You won't see or hear any of this from the average American. It's so beyond sad it's not even funny.
what u think on the war in iraq success or failure - Nethran - 10-08-2004
TroGdoR Wrote:And so you would lets hundreds of thousands of people be murdered every year by Saddam and the Baathists? Cuz that was what was happening before the U.S. intervened. I promise you that less Iraqis died from this war, then from Saddam's annual cleansing of opposition. Change annual to daily...It's the appeasers who we must look out for. Because of appeasers, countries like Iraq keep building up until they are a Nuclear threat capable of matching the U.S. And I'm sure that you want this? Thought so, and don't give me the whole "the the U.S. has enough problems at home to worry about" deal because the economy is getting better, unemployment has gone down, there haven't been any terrorist attacks due to a raised level of protection, and we now have a future ally in the Middle East. Do you realize how important a Democratic Iraq can be? Can you even begin to understand what this could start in the Middle East, currently the most dangerous area in the world. If you have been doing your reading, many Iranian civilians are noticing the benefits of Democracy. And many have started speaking out against the government. Just take your finger out of your ear and imagine two democracies in the Arab World. THen the Saudi civilians, Egyptians, Jordanians, Lebanese, Syrians, *takes a breath*, you get the picture, will start wondering why they too don't see those benefits that are well hidden from them in their oppressive, destructive, violent societies.
How are the problems in Iraq our problem? Our business? They aren't. And a report was released yesterday saying, in 1000 pages of text, that Saddam had the intent to make wmds, but he was not at the time of the start of the war pursuing that desire. Also, the report says that "No Weapons have been found" and they don;t think that Saddam had any to begin with. He DID violate UN resolutions with his over-ranged missiles, but honestly, people, is that worth going to war over? We should have let Iraq be. We had no RIGHT to go to war with them. We ****ed things up and made things worse for ourselves over there... and at home. Our decision to invade piszed a lot of people off over there.. and it gae a big boost to recruiting in anti-US terrorist organizations. We WORSENED our own national security. We went into Iraq with the promise that he was a threat to us and that he was a threat to the world. He was a threat to nobody but his own people. No right. We royally screwed ourselves by what we did.
Pros of the Iraq war: Oil, finding out Bush was a liar
Cons os the Iraq war: Death to Iraqis and Coalition troops(mostly US), finding out Bush lied to us, inviting more groups of people to hate us with a fiery passion, pissing off allies, having people still support Bush despite all of the above.
what u think on the war in iraq success or failure - TroGdoR - 10-08-2004
Kellard Wrote:He was a threat to nobody but his own people.Your trying to convince me that Saddam Hussein was only a threat to his people? Damn, Kellard i thought you knew more about history then this. This man was a threat to the entire Middle East.
what u think on the war in iraq success or failure - Nethran - 10-09-2004
Oh, really? He invaded Kuwait once. He learned his lesson from that and hasn't done a damned thing to anyone for 10 years. He hasn't planned to do anything for ten years. He's been perfectly peaceful to everyone but the Kerds and the Shiites.
Only a threat to his own people. Just like I said.
what u think on the war in iraq success or failure - Venom - 10-20-2004
trog. kellard might know more than u think he does but me i dont know much about saddam other than what i have seen on the news but that just more to one side
what u think on the war in iraq success or failure - SpoonMan999 - 10-20-2004
Ok Kellard...So Saddam killing his own people is perfectly fine by you and 1000 giving their lives to save millions is just wrong? I know that's not what you or Rob mean but you both sure as hell sound like that's what you're saying. And Rob the job isn't done until we take out Al Sadr cause as soon as we leave he'll over run Iraq with the terrorist organizations he's got with him and take over and just be a worse Saddam. And also Kellard the oil thing...Michael Moore doesn't even talk about the oil crap anymore I thought we were through that shit and most realized that wasn't the purpose of this war? I dunno maybe you're just a little behind the others or you refuse to accept that.
what u think on the war in iraq success or failure - TroGdoR - 10-20-2004
Wow, I can't believe how messed up some of our members "oppinions" are. Spoon, don't bother with this thread, you are preaching to a deaf and blind choir.
what u think on the war in iraq success or failure - Rumors - 10-20-2004
I dont see why The US just didnt send a team in to kill all the People in High Power.
what u think on the war in iraq success or failure - SpoonMan999 - 10-20-2004
Oh you and **** everyone off more with illegal covert ops? Good idea...
And Trog I am simply informing them and attempting to make them think a bit. There may be hope for Rob but Kellard is lost.