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Im making a singer - A|fzZz - 06-01-2005
FINALLY....Im making a singer! :devilish:
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Now time for questions..
When do i use dual hotos and when do i use dual wizzies? Or hoto\wiz if any suggest..
50% of the guides out there
Quote:Energy:Rest hereIs that bullshi.t or what? Some say NONE into energy...[mana potting is usually allowed in duels]
200 energy roughly 800 life already....So....Should i 'rest-into-life' or 'rest-into-energy' ?
I do have a rough guide of what items i should use..
Some suggest shako while some say arreats [socketed with appropriate jewels/runes]....Which should i use?
What amulet? Big question...Maras? Or 3wc ammy with mods?
What gloves? Trangs? Magefist? Bloodfist?
Man...Too many questions lol..:devilish:
Thanks for takin your time..
Peace
Im making a singer - [/sarcasm] - 06-01-2005
I've heard that you're always to use dual Wizzies and HoTO's are only good for raising your mana cost per warcry. If it were up to me, I'd go with dual Wizzies too. And yeah, putting most of your points into Energy is a good idea solely to keep away from running out of mana and having to wait for your mana pot.
Im making a singer - A|fzZz - 06-01-2005
SO....You think energy>Life?
Tho having 35 more res on wiz...But hoto has +3...Still troubling me..
Im making a singer - [/sarcasm] - 06-01-2005
Yeah, the HoTO's add more to the skills, but really that isn't what you want. You'll already have the stun and the damage, no use riding up the mana cost. Wizzies also give huge bonuses to mana that I'm sure is being overlooked, and if you're given the 30% increased mana, 30% mana regen, and the +240 mana (and growing) boost by the time you can use the wizzies , it means you can lighten up a little on the points spent into Energy.
I suppose if you really wanted the skills, although I don't advise it, you could use one HoTO and one Wizzie... But it is your Singer, after all. Have fun with it. =D
Im making a singer - Silver Ice - 06-01-2005
use fhr items now too so id use arreats since i think it has fhr and maybe shael or um it and use 5%fhr scs or warcry 12% fhr gcs.
Im making a singer - A|fzZz - 06-01-2005
Ahh....well i guess ill keep 2 wiz and 2 hotos in my singer...lol...There goes my last 2 hotos lol...
Regarding fhr what bp is considered decent?
Im making a singer - Silver Ice - 06-01-2005
*****BARBARIAN*****
~FCR FRAMES~
0% FCR = 13 Frames
9% FCR = 12 Frames
20% FCR = 11 Frames
37% FCR = 10 Frames
63% FCR = 9 Frames
105% FCR = 8 Frames
200% FCR = 7 Frames
~FHR FRAMES~
0% FHR = 9 Frames
7% FHR = 8 Frames
15% FHR = 7 Frames
27% FHR = 6 Frames
48% FHR = 5 Frames
86% FHR = 4 Frames
200% FHR = 3 Frames
86/ 4 seems reasonable.
Im making a singer - MadCowBoy - 06-01-2005
Dual Wizard Spikes are the best all around~
Use Arreat's Face
And u need Wizard Spike+Energy since singers don't have mana leech~
(HOTO adds only 200 something extra damage,but Wizzies adds u tones of mana and resists~)
Im making a singer - Keitaro - 06-02-2005
I would prefere wizzard since they give you will give you 100% FCR, around 300 mana, 150% resist all, 30% more max mana, and 30% mana renegation. They dont give skill+, but ill rater spend my value on warcry skillers than good resist HotO`s. Your damage will be good enough.
If you use dual HotO`s, then you get 6+ all skills, 80% FCR, 20 Dex, 40 replenish life, 30% increased mana and 60-80% resist all.
When you make a singer, its important that you max battle orders at an early stage. They consume mana extremly fast. Only put 1 skill in shout and battle command.
I would use this gear if i were suppose to make a new singer in non-ladder.
Helm:
Shako socket with Ber/Um/Shael
Weapon:
Dual Wizzard Spike socket with 15% resist juwels, or Lum runes.
Switch:
2x 3+Warcry Weapons
Armor:
Enigma Breast Plate
Gloves:
Magefist
Belt:
15% Verdungos
Boots:
Waterwalk or Eth Sandstorm since eth require only 81 str
Amulet:
Maras
Rings:
Dual SoJ`s
You shoud know that you can get 16 to mana small charms if you need more mana. Renember that alot of mana when you use the gear together with the battle orders skill.
Resist would be:
150-180% wizzard
30% anya quest
20-30% maras
15% if you use um in shako
FHR:
I would advice if you are rich to get 12% FHR on you skill charms.
Dmg reduce:
10-15% Verdungo
10-18% Shako
8% Enigma
You shoud know that if you got a good computer with a fast internet, you can take your warcry to the extreme. By that i mean reach 200% FCR.
Helm:
2+ Barbar skills/ 20% FCR
Weapons:
2x Wizzard Spike
Armor:
Upgraded or normal viper magi if FCR boots does not exist. Or else enigma
Gloves:
Magefist/Trang-Ouls
Belt:
Arachnid
Boots:
Think you can get FCR on crafted boots
Amulet:
2+ barbar skills/ 10% FCR
Rings:
2x 10% FCR
Im making a singer - Fishee - 06-03-2005
use wizzys and hotoS** for switch for bo :-D
Im making a singer - Exorcise - 06-03-2005
So should a singer barbarian use a arreat face or shako? Nobody explained why should a singer use arreat face.
Im making a singer - mrbona2 - 06-03-2005
Arreats adds the skills, fhr, str, vit, resists. Its the best
Im making a singer - A|fzZz - 06-03-2005
According to Keitaro...He suggested Shako....But there seems to be a debate before...ANd arreats won lol..
Fhr,res,str,dex....All >shako..
Im making a singer - Fishee - 06-04-2005
Yea shako isnt what ya want.... areats gives way more better mods when shako gives life and mana and mf...... unless you plan on mfing i choose areats :-D (Never herd of a siging mfer)
Im making a singer - Exorcise - 06-04-2005
So should a singing barbarian put any points into energy or just leave it as it is (base)?
Im making a singer - Silver Ice - 06-04-2005
just leave as base... since your allowed using mana pots in duels, and no one could tell if you did use them anyway.
Im making a singer - Coprofago - 06-05-2005
Shako gives nice mana and 10% dmg if u use ss (yes, some singers use ss) + nigma u get good dmg reduce
i prefer a +5 war cry (the skill) +5 bo delirium
Im making a singer - PoisonWolf - 06-05-2005
Sirs,
May I ask if this guy can take on PvM? Or is the damage too low in hell?
Thanks, do have a nice day.
Im making a singer - A|fzZz - 06-07-2005
PvM shud do fine....Especially in baal runs when minions appear in a group closely packed...
The wc shud stun them long enough to last till the next.....But dmg wise....might be a little low...
Im making a singer - Keitaro - 06-07-2005
A|fzZz Wrote:According to Keitaro...He suggested Shako....But there seems to be a debate before...ANd arreats won lol..But shako gives cheaper teleport, much mana and life and damage reduce. Bouth arreat face and shako is usefull, but it all depends on how you want it.
Fhr,res,str,dex....All >shako..