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Humanity's hopeless sometimes. - xDBD - 06-02-2005
http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/05/31/homeless.killing.ap/index.html
So, this started on my (other) favorite website, the Shroomery (are these types of pluygs allowed? lol)..
well, all I can say is these shitbricks deserve what they get. I say fair punishment would be living on the streets for a month and then executed by homeless people with bare fists, booted feet, and sticks.
Sometimes I really wonder if it's even worth living anymore. I don't mean that in a suicidal sense either
Humanity's hopeless sometimes. - Nubli - 06-02-2005
omg they're white guys. that explains it all.
Humanity's hopeless sometimes. - Foog - 06-02-2005
I say solitary confinement for life, and being forced to use AOL dial up as more torture.
Humanity's hopeless sometimes. - DaCougarMech - 06-02-2005
kinda comes from the attitude toward people with less money
hmph, f*cked up bastards
Humanity's hopeless sometimes. - matthacker - 06-02-2005
ive been hearing about this nonstop.when i frist heard about it i said what losers.they should die a slow and very painful death.why would u beat someone to death for fun.
Humanity's hopeless sometimes. - [Ghost] - 06-02-2005
Wow, you guys have never seen or read A Clockwork Orange have you?
Humanity's hopeless sometimes. - SpoonMan999 - 06-02-2005
xDBD Wrote:Humanity's hopeless sometimes.
Sometimes? How about alot of the time?
[Death Wrote:] Wow, you guys have never seen or read A Clockwork Orange have you?
Love the book and the movie, though the constant use of slang in the book is very very confusing. There is a big difference in this story and A Clockwork Orange...this one really happened. This person is a REAL douche bag and not a fictional character.
Humanity's hopeless sometimes. - [Ghost] - 06-02-2005
The movies use of slang confused me. I had to watch it a few times to get it all in, but now im starting to go off topic.
Seriously, beating up or making fun of homeless people is just sad. It just shows how much dignity you have. They do annoy me when im out but they have good reason to. I always give them what change I have, I don't care if they spend it on booze or drugs. Why should I limit them?
Humanity's hopeless sometimes. - SpoonMan999 - 06-02-2005
It bothers me when they spend my money on booze or drugs. My dad was once eating in a Taco Bell parking lot way when with my mom. A homeless guy came up and asked if they would lend him a dollar so they he could get himself a burrito. My dad looked into the bag and held out a few burritos and said "Here, we actually have a few extra why don't you just help yourself to these?" The man cussed him out and called him an asshole before running off.
Humanity's hopeless sometimes. - Fykins - 06-02-2005
Wow, you think that he would take them anyway because he was probably hungry. I went to peurto rico one time, so many homeless people there; like 50 a city block. I felt really bad for them but like spoon said, they mostly spend what they get on boose and drugs.
Thats very sad, if the kids are like that in the head, they probably would have ended up being mass killers or somthing anyway.
Humanity's hopeless sometimes. - xDBD - 06-02-2005
Well, here is my take on this subject.. quite a long one.
This nation's "success" is determined by how much (or lack thereof) money or material items you are in posession of.
Homeless people are often stereotyped unfairly as being lazy bums who refuse to work and live off of other people. They are often judged because they simply made a few bad decisions or ran out of luck, or got shafted by our lovely government or their family/friends.
These children were seeking risks; hell, isn't that how kids have fun? There's nothing like the rush you get from doing something illegal or looked down upon; and the satisfaction of getting away with it. However, I draw the line with smoking pot and drinking underage. Killing people for sport is not only immoral in my eyes, but punishible with equal force of the crime. These kids figured, hell, this guy's a bum, he's got nothing to live for.. he doesn't work, he doesn't care, hell, he probably doesn't want to live, right? We're probably doing him a favor, right?
Have any of you ever talked to a homeless person before? Experienced it? I have. Willingly. Homeless people are great guys.. seriously. If you've ever talked to one, you'll quickly realize the stereotypes of all homeless people are drunks, drug addicts, assholes, rapists, homosexual, lazy, etc. are all just stereotypes; totally useless and unable to be used in every day life. Many times, homeless people simply RAN OUT OF LUCK in life and despite how hard you try, you can't get ahead in the game.
I once talked to a guy whom faught the Vietnam war. He was homeless. When he came back from the war, he was slightly crazy. Watching your buddies get blown to bits daily does that to you, feel me? Slightly crazy? He admits he was clinically insane, yet our nation did nothing but charge him out the *** for "treatment." He was married with kids. His wife left him, sold his house, cars, posessions.. kept the money and ran. Took his kids. That drove him further down. With no permanent address, few places would hire him. The select few that would quickly fired him due to poor stereotypes and generalizations. The guy was a motor genius; knew more about a small-gas-engine than the engine itself, yet he couldn't hold a job because of his "status." He was far from a bum unwilling to work; don't even think that. He did everything he could, yet his status held him back. Amazing.
I mean, it's amazing. I know a guy who willingly left Gainesville for a new start. He went out to San Diego, California where he knew NOBODY to take him in and led the life of a "bum," for months on end. Getting in the scene, he guaranteed 9 out of every 10 homeless people will GUARANTEE you something to eat at night, tell you all the best places to crash, inform you who's crooked on the street, who's good on the street, what stores would help you out, how to get a job, etc. This man swears that people on the street are more loyal to you than your own father. Yet, stereotypes hold up.
What exactly am I saying? Homeless people aren't hopeless. These people don't want to die; hell, they don't even want to live the way they live. They would give anything to live a comfortable life, but it's not easy when you're shat on and left with nothing, and our crooked system has no tolerance of alternate/unfortunate lifestyles. It's not like these people don't try, either.
These kids were unjust.. and really, how do they know about the lifestyles? When a bum asks you for some money, he may buy a dimebag of smoke or a 40oz of brew, but so what? Giving him that 5$ would make his day. I once gave a bum (when I was 16, looked 13) my last 5$. He knew I wasn't a richkid doing it out of spite, he could tell I wasn't far above him, and if I was it had nothing to do with my generosity. I've never seen the look of a grateful man shine more purely than in that one homeless man. Yeah, i'm sure he baught a 6pack of Budweiser, but I know I made his day. It's his choice how to live, i'm nobody to judge.
Homeless people are people. God bless the homeless, god bless us all. It's all about tolerance at the end of the day.
Humanity's hopeless sometimes. - SpoonMan999 - 06-02-2005
See I knew a few homeless people. Funny thing is though one lived in an abandoned car wash for a while he was one of the cleanest guys you'd ever meet. Dumb as a rock but funny as Hell. The way he had survived was moving from place to place staying with buddies. When he couldn't find a place he'd sleep somewhere on the street, or in the car wash. A few people thought he'd be a blast at parties, and he was, but it just made me realise that there are homeless people that would just spend your money on booze and drugs. Cause what this guy does all day? Mooches off other people and gets drunk/high. And I was told of many others who do the same thing.
Humanity's hopeless sometimes. - [/sarcasm] - 06-02-2005
I've got a very sympathetic feeling towards those that are homeless, but I really don't want to think that the donations they take go towards booze. I would be much at ease if the money they were given went towards food, clothes, a warm blanket, something useful..
Also, I'd recommend reading 'The Street Lawyer' by John Grisham, very interesting book.
Humanity's hopeless sometimes. - Mr. Fabulous - 06-02-2005
Absolutely atrocious, little worthless pieces of shit children that are raised to think they are better yet they are worse then the god damn monsters they supposedly hate.
I've worked at 5 homeless shelters in the past 8 years of my life, mostly stalking shelves and helping out any way I can. about 98% of the homeless peopel I met I liked I would have called them friends even. Above xDBD mentioned about the Vietnam vet, well guess what people there aout 10,000 more like that out there they were so messed up in the head from the war and the government just let them fall through. The government today still let's these "forgotten" people fall through the cracks.
One girl I met was only 5 year's older then me her only family before becoming homeless was her mother who eventually died of cancer after her mother died she went crazy, but she was under 18 so she was sent to an institution. After she was "rehabilitated" they let her out the only thing is she didn't have a diploma and she didn't have money. Ok when you go to a job interview do you think they are going to want to higher you after you've been in a mental institution for over a year?
Some how when I've given money to one I've given it to one who looks like they deserve it and my god I had no idea that money could ever make some one smile. You know it's a small *** thing for some one like me to give out a little bit of money for one god damned meal, but to so many others thats money for living.
I might also add that it is pretty hard for homeless people to get a job in this world. I'll let you guys figure why that is.
Humanity's hopeless sometimes. - Fykins - 06-02-2005
That makes me mad at the world, geting ****ed over just because your emotionally sensitive and you lost all the family you had left? The institution should'nt just have "released her", they or the government should have givin her financail aid, money for books etc. so she has a chance to get a GED.
Because think, if she did'nt go insane then she would have lived in a home for children and the government would have had to take care of her anyway.
Humanity's hopeless sometimes. - Mr. Fabulous - 06-02-2005
Yes thats about what I alway's thought to.
Humanity's hopeless sometimes. - Veck - 06-05-2005
****in assholes.
Im very good friends with a homeless man in my area, his names Dennis but he likes to be called dred. Hes probably one of the nicest men youll meet, never resentful of anyone and still enjoys living. I mean he came to his situation cause of a couple bad fianancial decisions in the past and an unfaithful wife. Hes always happy to see anyone and whenever me and my friends see him we always talk for a while and give a him a few bucks, almost never do they go to booze or reefer, he always just gets something to eat or finds someone that will allow him to spend the night if its cold outside. But yet people always ignore him or give him nasty looks because of assumptions made from generalities of the homeless people, granted that many homeless people are assholes, you should at least take the time to talk to them at least once to find out what they are like personally.
Humanity's hopeless sometimes. - xDBD - 06-05-2005
Too bad we're a minority, man.. more people need compasion in their life
Humanity's hopeless sometimes. - DaCougarMech - 06-06-2005
i think it's ironic that the stereotypes against the homeless help to keep the homeless poor and stereotypical
vicious cycle
Humanity's hopeless sometimes. - [/sarcasm] - 06-09-2005
That really isn't irony. It just sucks. I live in a town of around 10-11k and the middle, upper-middle, and rich class are pretty much separated by stores from the lower class, so I honestly don't really come into much contact with the homeless, so I really don't know much about them, and to be honest, that leads to some stereotypes on my part, and I understand that isn't right..