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Best weapon for a smiter vs uber trist - A|fzZz - 08-06-2005

There're many alternatives
Most popular being grief.
Followed by doom...asterons..etc etc

BUT
Theres one weapon which hardly...or not many people realise...
STORMLASH!
Though it isnt a rare or godly weapon...but look at the mods..

*for those who doesnt know*

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[font=arial,helvetica][size=-1][font=arial,helvetica][size=-1] One-Hand Damage: [color=#4850b8](10-12) To (272-320)[/color] (141-166 Avg)

Required Level: 82

Required Strength: 125

Required Dexterity: 77

Durability: 65

Base Weapon Speed: [-10]

[color=#4850b8]+240-300% Enhanced Damage[/color] (varies)

[color=#4850b8]+50% Damage To Undead[/color]

[color=#4850b8]Adds 1-473 Lightning Damage[/color]

[b][color=#4850b8]+30% Increased Attack Speed[/color][/b]

[b][color=#4850b8]+33% Chance of Crushing Blow[/color][/b]

[color=#4850b8]20% Chance To Cast Level 18 Tornado On Striking[/color]

[b][color=#4850b8]15% Chance To Cast Level 10 Static Field On Striking[/color][/b]

[b][color=#4850b8]+3-9 Lightning Absorb[/color] (varies)[/b]

[color=#4850b8]Attacker Takes Lightning Damage of 30

Those are the stats..
Those in bold are the important ones.
The static field is goign to help a lot...it can reduce ur number of attack by 6-10+
3 smite can get a boss to less than half hp if static field casts every hit.

All these is just for your info.

Because ive never seen anyone's guide with stormlash as an alternative.
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Best weapon for a smiter vs uber trist - Cauhtemoc - 08-07-2005

Stormlash is, indeed, a very nice weapon against any high life boss. It's fast, has a range of 3 (only matched by a Berserker Axe), the 33% chance of a crushing blow is very nice indeed, and the 15% chance to cast Static Field is awesome. There's a catch, of course, being the even higher chance to cast Tornado, which will be cast about once per second, interrupting your fury of Smites.

But Crushing blow is definatly the way to go, I killed Über Baal in 19 seconds with my Smiter, in a 6 or 7 player game, with no godly items what so ever. I was using the following:

Helm: Guillaume's Face
Weapon: Black Scourge
Armor: Duress Archon Plate
Shield: Rhyme Zakarum Shield
Gloves: Magnus' Skin
Belt: Verdungo's Hearty Cord
Boots: Gore Riders

This gives me a total of 100% crushing blow, with a 6 frame attack speed. Or in shorter terms, I trigger a crushing blow 4 times per second, guaranteed, with the first hit knocking of over 100'000 hit points.

EDIT: Updated.

Best weapon for a smiter vs uber trist - A|fzZz - 08-07-2005

wasnt crushing blow capped at 95 or something?
I was thinking of

ber ber coa
highlords [ds]/Maras
bk
rfrost
dungoes
stormlash
bloodfist
gores
bugged coh

Have i reached the ias bp or what

Is that fine?

Best weapon for a smiter vs uber trist - Cauhtemoc - 08-07-2005

Yes, you will reach the last breakpoint with that, but deadly strike doesn't work with Smite, so Mara's is better.

Best weapon for a smiter vs uber trist - rpflip - 08-08-2005

is grief better than all of the wepons for smiters tho ??? or is the higher % of crushing blow more important and does more damage???

Best weapon for a smiter vs uber trist - Cauhtemoc - 08-08-2005

This depends. Grief add's an amazing 400 damage to each Smite, before it's multiplied by Smite, Fanaticism, or any other source of increased attack speed. Crushing blow is just plain nice to have. Smile

Best weapon for a smiter vs uber trist - In[F]ec[T]eD - 08-08-2005

would a shadow knuckle be a nice ammy to use instead of a maras?

Best weapon for a smiter vs uber trist - psyfect - 08-08-2005

I have always been a fan of stormlash.
I made a frenzy barb assuming he would bring down any bosses life insanely fast with static and crushing blow setting off so much.
Unfortunately, it's hard to have a high attack raiting, and even with Battle Cry, you miss an awful lot.

With smite, I feel it is an excellent PvM item.
I've always wondered why more people didn't choose this route.

As an alternative, I think Last Wish may very well be the best choice:

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[B]6% Chance To Cast Level 11 Fade When Struck[/B]

[B]10% Chance To Cast Level 18 Life Tap On Striking[/B]

20% Chance To Cast Level 20 Charged Bolt On Attack

[B]Level 17 Might Aura When Equipped[/B]

+330-375% Enhanced Damage (varies)

Ignore Target's Defense

[B]60-70% Chance of Crushing Blow (varies)[/B]

[B]Prevent Monster Heal[/B]

Hit Blinds Target

0.5 (per level)% Chance of Getting Magic Items (Based on Character Level)

Heck, even hit blinds target isn't half bad for crowd control.

Best weapon for a smiter vs uber trist - pt14 - 08-08-2005

psyfect is actualy right that IS a good alternative

Best weapon for a smiter vs uber trist - Cauhtemoc - 08-08-2005

Yes, assuming you can afford 5 high runes for it.

Best weapon for a smiter vs uber trist - rpflip - 08-09-2005

hmm...never heard of last wish but it looks good. also i wanted to kno that wen ladder resets and grief is on non-ladder (rite?), can i make grief with the runes or do i hav to trade for an already made grief? also.....is one of those crushing blow wepons better than grief? im not sure... thanks

Best weapon for a smiter vs uber trist - SadistKing - 08-09-2005

rpflip Wrote:hmm...never heard of last wish but it looks good. also i wanted to kno that wen ladder resets and grief is on non-ladder (rite?), can i make grief with the runes or do i hav to trade for an already made grief? also.....is one of those crushing blow wepons better than grief? im not sure... thanks

not 100% sure but i dont think that you will be able to make one yourself, you will most likely have to buy one that was already made before the ladder reset.

Best weapon for a smiter vs uber trist - Cauhtemoc - 08-09-2005

What happens when ladder resets is that all ladder only items gets moved to non-ladder, that's about it. You cannot make ladder only items in non-ladder now, nor will you be able to when ladder resets.

As for the raw damage / crushing blow question, this depends on what you plan on killing. For Über Tristram or any other high life boss, than crushing blow equipment wins every time (note above, Über Baal in 19 seconds, in a 7 player game). However, Stormlash is not a good weapon, stopping every 4 Smites or so is terrible to say the least.

I'd say, an Asteron's Iron Ward is the best choice. High damage, mediocre range, crushing blow, plus to skills, and it's also fast enough with the addition of a Shael rune.

Best weapon for a smiter vs uber trist - rpflip - 08-09-2005

so would asterons be a better choice for ubers and grief fror like pvp ? wats a +4 asterons worth ?

Best weapon for a smiter vs uber trist - Bolong - 08-09-2005

for uber trist, i suggest mal'd stormlash or eth lacerator....

Best weapon for a smiter vs uber trist - [The Reaper] - 08-09-2005

if you use all of the cb gear, won't you have to worry about your res?

Best weapon for a smiter vs uber trist - Glock - 08-09-2005

A|fzZz Wrote:wasnt crushing blow capped at 95 or something?
I was thinking of

ber ber coa
highlords [ds]/Maras
bk
rfrost
dungoes
stormlash
bloodfist
gores
bugged coh

Have i reached the ias bp or what

Is that fine?

for a smiter i'd go with a ber'd shako (dr) or guillamine (cb)
use mara instead of highlords (ds doesnt work)
bk
rfrost
dungos
duress archon or nigma if u need str ... maybe ebug coh
gores
dracs
grief for the dmg and ias (i think reduce def works also)
evortex exile (i prefer the extra lifetap chance)

i soloed uber trist with this build

Best weapon for a smiter vs uber trist - A|fzZz - 08-09-2005

From what i heard...A cheap 80+res smiter can easily solo uber trist...Once life tap kicks in..bam ure fine.

Btw...Don't bother using eth lacerator...The ampli and life tap together might cause some problems..

Best weapon for a smiter vs uber trist - [The Reaper] - 08-10-2005

Damn that means I need life tap to be able to solo?

Best weapon for a smiter vs uber trist - A|fzZz - 08-10-2005

u DEFINATELY need the life tap...hearing from what u said...u havent solo'ed' or seen uber trist yet?
Completing uber trist make the hell bosses look like ants...

Sacrifice some dmg and get the life tap...U DEINFATELY..need lt...Once it kicks in...u can do ur other stuffs...watch tv while u hold ur cursor..