Is any one average human significant?

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Is any one average human significant? - metalicagrl89 - 08-16-2006

i have a question on my mind, and it confuses me.

i was watching a show on how detectives were trying to find this person that killed this girl. The show was based on this one girl that was killed and i asked myself, "why are they doing so much so much for one human that wasn't doing the world all that good. A whole show for one person that was killed. One person serves no purpose and no one but family and friends cared about, if one human dies, not to many people care. The equivalent of that one girl equals me, or anyone else. Then i said," The only reason for humans to exist is for the human race to live on. Like for instance...this generation is born, times go on, that generation reproduces, teaches the new generation to live, then dies away. The same thing happens to the next generation and the next, and the next until we die out. until then, if any one of us dies, as long as there are other people...who cares?

So, if you understood or didnt get too bored with this...is any average human significant?confused:

Is any one average human significant? - FraterPerdurabo - 08-16-2006

Well, I've flamed you enough lately, so I'll just stick to saying that it wouldn't be such a big thing if there was one person killed once in a while, the truth is that 100s of people die every day, and if they didn't spend their time looking for the killers, it would be 1000s a day, or 10000s, mayhap more.

edit: as a blunt arguement.

Hell, there are some people that I'd do away with straight away if there were no laws.

Is any one average human significant? - metalicagrl89 - 08-16-2006

FraterPerdurabo Wrote:Well, I've flamed you enough lately, so I'll just stick to saying that it wouldn't be such a big thing if there was one person killed once in a while, the truth is that 100s of people die every day, and if they didn't spend their time looking for the killers, it would be 1000s a day, or 10000s, mayhap more.

edit: as a blunt arguement.

Hell, there are some people that I'd do away with straight away if there were no laws.

Although that is true about enforcing laws however the topic was based on the existence of mankind rather than mere law enforcementlaugh:

p.s. you damn right you flamed me enough, what do you do just sit in your moms basement drinking tea and waiting to flame peopledevilish:

Is any one average human significant? - Sins-Massacre - 08-16-2006

i feel that metalica has a point. who gives a heap if someone is killed. my uncle was killed and he doesnt have a show....live goes on.

Is any one average human significant? - Phallock - 08-16-2006

This is one of the truely saddest threads I have ever read. Please don't take this as a 'flaming' but yes any one of us is significant. You might want to consider finding a nice christian church in your area and talking to a priest, they are a lot more qualified to "preach" the significance of human life than I am.

Is any one average human significant? - FraterPerdurabo - 08-16-2006

metalicagrl89 Wrote:Although that is true about enforcing laws however the topic was based on the existence of mankind rather than mere law enforcementlaugh:

p.s. you damn right you flamed me enough, what do you do just sit in your moms basement drinking tea and waiting to flame peopledevilish:

1) Naw I sit behind my table on a comfy chair.
2) Yes, tea it is, since I ****ed my kidneys up with all the coffee + alcohol so I'm intending to stay in more and only go out seriously on weekends (well obviously I have some places that I have to go to during the day as well).

Sins-Massacre Wrote:i feel that metalica has a point. who gives a heap if someone is killed. my uncle was killed and he doesnt have a show....live goes on.

That's a good point, I don't give a shit about you uncle either. What a coincidence.

It's not a matter of enforcing laws, it a simple matter of human rights. I believe that murder investigation (especially successful) discourages murder, making the world a safer place.

I'll write you an essay later on this, if you want, the issue itself is quite interesting.

Additional Comment:

Phallock Wrote:This is one of the truely saddest threads I have ever read. Please don't take this as a 'flaming' but yes any one of us is significant. You might want to consider finding a nice christian church in your area and talking to a priest, they are a lot more qualified to "preach" the significance of human life than I am.

This discussion could get interesting if you went down to the basics.

Is any one average human significant? - Snipz - 08-17-2006

Damn this thread is ****ed up on how no one cares about each other. confused:

I atleast feel a little sad that his uncle died and I dont even know him.

Is any one average human significant? - wm_hunter - 08-17-2006

Movies and TV shows like this have the point of at least discouraging people from comitting a crime. If they see nothing on TV but the positive murder cases (CSI anyone) they subconciousally get the message that "I kill him and they're going to get me" even if their concious mind knows that the 100% case solve ratio they see on TV is total BS.

As for a value of a human life... I think the bum on the corner and Bill Gates should be valued equally. The fact that people judge a persons "value" by his financial success is just the way most of this world thinks.

Is any one average human significant? - L4E - 08-17-2006

damn right wm_, 100% with what ur saying
although i believe were all significant, there's always one exception, emos Smile

but thats for another thread Wink

We cant really tell how one average human is significant, we have to wait and see. None of us can tell the future, you never know if that one person will save a million people tomorrow, or if he will just die on his couch of a heart-attack. But we're all significant to some point because social interaction is the basis of our society, with less and less "average" people, society would break down.

Cast away is a great movie which would be slightly related to this.
And btw, the mentality behind the police officers who search for the criminals who killed a simple little girl is that, unless they catch him, he could kill more and more, he's done it once and why not again. So then it wouldnt be about one girl dieing, it would be about the potential variable number of others that could

shuper duper

Is any one average human significant? - Sins-Massacre - 08-17-2006

L4E Wrote:damn right wm_, 100% with what ur saying
although i believe were all significant, there's always one exception, emos but thats for another thread
We cant really tell how one average human is significant, we have to wait and see. None of us can tell the future, you never know if that one person will save a million people tomorrow, or if he will just die on his couch of a heart-attack. But we're all significant to some point because social interaction is the basis of our society, with less and less "average" people, society would break down.

Cast away is a great movie which would be slightly related to this.
And btw, the mentality behind the police officers who search for the criminals who killed a simple little girl is that, unless they catch him, he could kill more and more, he's done it once and why not again. So then it wouldnt be about one girl dieing, it would be about the potential variable number of others that could

shuper duper

you have a valid point...they should center a show around that fact, and not that some chick got shot, i feel sorry for her family, but y should she have a show...and not some one else?? if your gonna make on for her, make one for everyone whos murdered.

Is any one average human significant? - [/sarcasm] - 08-17-2006

There's a difference between basing "importance" as financial success and contribution to society as a whole. The bum could die and it would be a drop in the bucket, but if someone like Bill Gates were to die, there would be a much greater effect.

So it's a yes and no answer. It all depends on who the person is that's dying and how active they are in affecting other people's lives. Depends on what you mean by "average," though. Is it possible for them to go on and do something great or will they always live a mundane life?

Is any one average human significant? - Bloodangel26 - 08-17-2006

one death is a tragedy, a million is a statistic

Is any one average human significant? - yes.interesting - 08-17-2006

Sins-Massacre Wrote:you have a valid point...they should center a show around that fact, and not that some chick got shot, i feel sorry for her family, but y should she have a show...and not some one else?? if your gonna make on for her, make one for everyone whos murdered.

I'd give this the "most retarded post award" for this thread. The shows aren't trying to fish for sympathy for that one specific person. It's to demonstrate crime scene investigation because people find that interesting. I feel bad that your uncle was murdered and all, but are you seriously going to cry because he didn't have a show? The show isn't there to tell everyone about Jane Smith because that's probably not even her real name.

Are you going to cry because the kid in the back of the classroom has candy, shares it with 2 other people and nobody else?

Is any one average human significant? - Mathalamus - 08-17-2006

hey i claim all retarded posts!

the life of one human is significant the last time i checked my death will impact 400-700 people so one is significant

Is any one average human significant? - hellsing293 - 08-17-2006

FraterPerdurabo Wrote:Hell, there are some people that I'd do away with straight away if there were no laws.

amen to that.

one human life really isn't all that important. don't flame me, but when you hear about a person who died on the new or in the papers, do you think of it for mor than a second. and although one humans life shouldn't be valued over another for social/finanial standings, i'd value a productive member of society over a burden to society(i believe we should even get rid of them lol, except old people ofcourse). the only thing that would make their lives significant were if they left a legacy behind. only deaths i would care about were people who were my relatives/friends/people i knew.

i do agree with prossecuting/tracking down murders though. because it discourages other potential murders and keeps the general public safe. not to mention it punishes the murders(capital punishment FTW!!!) As for making a tv show about it, its just probably just bs daytime tv meant for people who are board.

Mathalumus Federation Wrote:the life of one human is significant the last time i checked my death will impact 400-700 people so one is significant

yes but thats different. its a positive impact(i'm jk man :p) i'd like to know those 400-700 people lol, sounds like bs to me.

Is any one average human significant? - metalicagrl89 - 08-17-2006

yes.interesting Wrote:I'd give this the "most retarded post award" for this thread. The shows aren't trying to fish for sympathy for that one specific person. It's to demonstrate crime scene investigation because people find that interesting. I feel bad that your uncle was murdered and all, but are you seriously going to cry because he didn't have a show? The show isn't there to tell everyone about Jane Smith because that's probably not even her real name.

Are you going to cry because the kid in the back of the classroom has candy, shares it with 2 other people and nobody else?

That had nothing to do with this thread! I'm gonna give u the "most retarded award" for saying that because it was completely off topic! The basic idea of it was that if one person dies, as long as they were an average person(not someone like George bush or anything) is that it's not really gonna matter, and that it won't make much of a differance in the world.mad:

Is any one average human significant? - hellsing293 - 08-17-2006

well thats kind of obvious. although people might not want to admit it, if anyone in this thread(including me) were to die right now, the world wouldn't stop and mourn for them. besides for their family/friends it would just be a new day, business as usual.

btw, did you know(info might be a little off but you'll get the point) since 1970 there have been 40% less murders and 60% more murder stories on the news?

Is any one average human significant? - Mathalamus - 08-17-2006

thats most of my school including my large family of over 30-40 people

(aunts uncles, great aunts/uncles etc...)

Is any one average human significant? - FraterPerdurabo - 08-17-2006

metalicagrl89 Wrote:That had nothing to do with this thread! I'm gonna give u the "most retarded award" for saying that because it was completely off topic! The basic idea of it was that if one person dies, as long as they were an average person(not someone like George bush or anything) is that it's not really gonna matter, and that it won't make much of a differance in the world.mad:

Now that's just retarded. You cannot set different values to human lives, that's just damn primitive. Actually, they did have this kind of judicial system in the barbarian populated areas within the Roman Empire (after the Roman Empire was invaded). It was called "wergelt" (wer = who, gelt = money in german) and if you killed someone, you had to pay a penalty, according to how important the person was. So if you killed some random peasant, you paid little and if you killed a noble, you paid shitloads. They did it in order to discourage family feuds.

mathalamus federation Wrote:thats most of my school including my large family of over 30-40 people

(aunts uncles, great aunts/uncles etc...)

I bet that you guys are all intermarried and that's why you are retarded.

Is any one average human significant? - Sins-Massacre - 08-17-2006

FraterPerdurabo Wrote:I bet that you guys are all intermarried and that's why you are retarded.

Now you get the most retarded award...off topic man. nothing to do w/ whether one person is more important...

I feel that people are significant...but i dont think those shows detour crimes...b/c if they were meant to detour crimes...they would be on a better channel...not fricken Discovery...