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NoBama. - Ares - 11-07-2008
Oh my ****ing God!!!
I am really disappointed in the American people. How in the world did Obama get elected?!
What the **** WAS EVERYONE THINKING? He is so damn socialist, lets spread the wealth everyone woo!! In my own opinion I think what makes America great is the opportunity to do succeed. I dont think its ****ing fair and right to punish the people that do.
Yeah lets tax the **** out of everyone who has a good job to give money to the god damn lazy mother ****ers who wont get a job!
**** this!
**** Democrat.
Socialist prick!
Democrats are in control of everything and they are about to **** things up, beyond repair.
I dont want to hear this bullshit about "Oh I cant go to college because blah blah blah" **** you, get off your ****ing ass and get a job, when my parents came here they didnt know English, my mom learned, went to college and since 2003 has been a full time Register Nurse.
Screw all of you lazy asses.
Democrats make me sick...
Obs I agree with you on all your posts in that other thread.
NoBama. - Mathalamus - 11-07-2008
the election is over, get over it. i favor the election of obama because of his policies
and plus the greater the tax from the greater the income was around for many years. you know
some people has to have time before they get a new job, for example my mom took a month to find a job, some peopel take more, some take less, thats not "lazy" but looking for a job
the we needed equaler wealth anyways. too many people are poor and too many peopel are rich. not enough on the middle
get. over. it. he was elected theres nothign you can do about it.
NoBama. - Warslut - 11-07-2008
Can't argue with that[Ares' post]. I hate people who believe that. My girlfriend's mom works at a bank and she sees people cash welfare cheques AND paycheques at the same time. What a bunch of bull shit. She's not allowed to say anything because of the privacy act. Sadly a majority of the people who get stuff like that, are exactly as you say, too ****ing lazy OR abusing it.
NoBama. - [/sarcasm] - 11-07-2008
You're only seeing part of the argument, and you're buying into Palin's sensationalist speeches. Obama isn't a Socialist. The Socialist candidate for President said himself that Obama isn't Socialist. Maybe by comparison to conservatism he's "socialist" but that's just called being Liberal.
Btw, did you guy's see the world reaction to Obama getting elected? It was as if America has a chance of being liked in the world again.
EDIT: You do understand that he won't be "taxing the ****" out of the people that make a lot of money. It'll be a tax increase, but nothing worse than they saw during the Clinton administration. And rich people still managed to survive back then.
NoBama. - Ares - 11-07-2008
That was just a pinch of sand in a beach full of his shit stained policies.
NoBama. - [/sarcasm] - 11-07-2008
Then give me some other examples, please.
NoBama. - Ares - 11-07-2008
Mathalamus Wrote:the election is over, get over it. i favor the election of obama because of his policies
and plus the greater the tax from the greater the income was around for many years. you know
some people has to have time before they get a new job, for example my mom took a month to find a job, some peopel take more, some take less, thats not "lazy" but looking for a job
the we needed equaler wealth anyways. too many people are poor and too many peopel are rich. not enough on the middle
get. over. it. he was elected theres nothign you can do about it.
Not what America is about.
Learn and understand our constitution.
Health plan for one.
Immigration
and Welfare.
NoBama. - [/sarcasm] - 11-07-2008
First of all, what on earth do you see wrong with his Immigration policy? He wants to make it so that less people feel like they need to come here illegally and promote learning English among those that are already here illegally.
Welfare is the same issue that you were harping on earlier. And unless McCain planned on abolishing welfare, I don't see the difference between the two politicians here. (If there is one, point it out)
And the health care plan is a way to make it easier for everyone to have health care. McCain's big plan was giving everyone 5 thousand dollar credit to go out and get health care far worse than they had and taxing employer-given healthcare for the first time ever. I see Obama's plan as a good and much-needed one. But I guess that is what divides the Conservatives and Liberals.
NoBama. - Ares - 11-07-2008
Your in the train for Obama, as it seems.
Not worth my time, go praise him like the second coming of Jesus
[/sarcasm];467471 Wrote:First of all, what on earth do you see wrong with his Immigration policy? He wants to make it so that less people feel like they need to come here illegally and promote learning English among those that are already here illegally.
Welfare is the same issue that you were harping on earlier. And unless McCain planned on abolishing welfare, I don't see the difference between the two politicians here. (If there is one, point it out)
And the health care plan is a way to make it easier for everyone to have health care. McCain's big plan was giving everyone 5 thousand dollar credit to go out and get health care far worse than they had and taxing employer-given healthcare for the first time ever. I see Obama's plan as a good and much-needed one. But I guess that is what divides the Conservatives and Liberals.
Once again who pays for it?
NoBama. - [/sarcasm] - 11-07-2008
Of course I am. It seems you're on the McCain-Palin train, as well. I think their campaign was targeted to make everyone that agreed with their political views hate Obama. If McCain won, you wouldn't see me throwing a tantrum.
Compared to our last president, I'm sure Obama couldn't do much worse. I don't hate Bush, and it's possible he just fell victim to the times, but I don't think the government made very good choices. And if anything, at least Obama will give better speeches. It was an odd feeling actually being impressed by a government official's speeches.
But as I've said, just because Obama got elected doesn't mean he'll do a good job. I'm not going to count my chickens before they hatch because he might just **** things up, but I'm not as inclined to believe it as you are.
And saying that my arguments "aren't worth your time" is a cheap evasion.
The taxpayers pay for it. They get a little bit more of their income skimmed off the top in order to fund a project that, in my opinion, needs to be implemented in order for our country to still be considered the greatest in the world. Again, this is an ideology difference.
EDIT: Going to bed now.
NoBama. - Ares - 11-07-2008
Its not an evasion you are just a typical arrogant Obama ass kisser.
It pisses me off when people like him get elected.
Democrats are pathetic, how much you cheat and lie your way into everything.
How every fault you make as a party you can get away with and/or blame the republicans.
it amazes me.
I understand why your "mascot" is a jackass.
NoBama. - Obfuscate - 11-07-2008
[/sarcasm];467471 Wrote:And the health care plan is a way to make it easier for everyone to have health care. McCain's big plan was giving everyone 5 thousand dollar credit to go out and get health care far worse than they had and taxing employer-given healthcare for the first time ever. I see Obama's plan as a good and much-needed one. But I guess that is what divides the Conservatives and Liberals.
Health care is a privilege NOT a right. Just because someone is born in America, the country with the greatest health care hands down regardless of the BS spewed from Moore and company, does NOT mean you get health benefits. You get health benefits by working your ass off and paying for them. Before the family business was bought out by a larger corporation I was paying for my own health care plan. Know how much a month that cost me? $250 + car + dental + car insurance + gas + food + all other expenses and you know what? I didn't starve to death or end up on welfare or any other government funded program. I worked and I sacrificed so I could have health care and get the medical treatment I need(ed).
**** Joe Blow making $10/hr with kids who needs health care for his family. He should have kept his pecker in his pants and done some ****ing thinking before he went off and made babies. I will NOT under any circumstances be a fan of paying for someone elses health care. Not even my girlfriends health care, which she has none of. She gets sick we either fork over the dough for a doctors vist, about $100, and then the money for the meds or she grabs some over the counter meds and sleeps it off.
You want governement subsidised health care? Go to Canada they have it in spades. Hell if you want off the American continent you can go to Spain too.
NoBama. - Ares - 11-07-2008
Obfuscate Wrote:Health care is a privilege NOT a right. Just because someone is born in America, the country with the greatest health care hands down regardless of the BS spewed from Moore and company, does NOT mean you get health benefits. You get health benefits by working your ass off and paying for them. Before the family business was bought out by a larger corporation I was paying for my own health care plan. Know how much a month that cost me? $250 + car + dental + car insurance + gas + food + all other expenses and you know what? I didn't starve to death or end up on welfare or any other government funded program. I worked and I sacrificed so I could have health care and get the medical treatment I need(ed).
**** Joe Blow making $10/hr with kids who needs health care for his family. He should have kept his pecker in his pants and done some ****ing thinking before he went off and made babies. I will NOT under any circumstances be a fan of paying for someone elses health care. Not even my girlfriends health care, which she has none of. She gets sick we either fork over the dough for a doctors vist, about $100, and then the money for the meds or she grabs some over the counter meds and sleeps it off.
You want governement subsidised health care? Go to Canada they have it in spades. Hell if you want off the American continent you can go to Spain too.
thank you, preach it to him.
NoBama. - Nethran - 11-07-2008
Typical elitest republican rhetoric. Gain some damn perspective. You can't know the circumstances revolving around everyones problems just by looking at their current situation. And you can't condemn a man before he's done anything.
NoBama. - [/sarcasm] - 11-08-2008
Obfuscate Wrote:Health care is a privilege NOT a right.
That's your opinion. The rest of your post is based on that.
Obfuscate Wrote:Not even my girlfriends health care, which she has none of. She gets sick we either fork over the dough for a doctors vist, about $100, and then the money for the meds or she grabs some over the counter meds and sleeps it off.
And if she gets cancer? Good luck sleeping that off.
EDIT: And I'm not sure I'm going to be the one leaving the U.S. to get gov't healthcare. It seems to me you guys are going to be the ones leaving to escape it once he gets his policy rolling.
NoBama. - Aemaeth - 11-08-2008
I agree with sarcasm, counting your eggs etc etc.
Ares, calm down, you can either debate with the members or you can take some time off and chill out, as some of the language and tone you used just isn't acceptible
NoBama. - Mathalamus - 11-08-2008
obs, you wont pay for your GIRLFRIENDS health care? god damn it thats sooo mean, if my girlfriend was sick with somethign serious ill gladly let her use my health care if she needs it. pain and simple
NoBama. - Fuggle - 11-08-2008
Math, health care doesn't work like that, if she's not listed on his healthcare, they won't accept it. If she is listed on it, the monthly cost would shoot up. He stated that if she really needed anything he would go pay the doctor the normal rates. Paying the full price at a doctor < cost of healthcare (If they don't have it with work benefits) for many people in the grand scheme of things.
NoBama. - TyKe - 11-08-2008
this is why i live out in B.F.E. and grow **** in my hydroponics system and sit back and collect money after money, i dont pay taxes, i dont even pay land taxes cuz where i live, it is supposed to be forested, and use solar panels for my electricity, a well for my water, and screw tv, i got a computer i can do shit on.
P.S. I hate jiggaboo's and america is going down the crappers!
thats right, i said it, JIGGABOO!
NoBama. - FraterPerdurabo - 11-08-2008
[/sarcasm];467466 Wrote:Btw, did you guy's see the world reaction to Obama getting elected? It was as if America has a chance of being liked in the world again.Ehm what, a bunch of african countries happy about America getting a black president? Other countries were also happy when Bush came to power, I mean did you think they would just turn their backs to a new president or something, thus screwing their foreign relations? Personally, I was for McCain and I know that I'm far from the only one in this part of the world.
Obfuscate Wrote:Health care is a privilege NOT a right. Just because someone is born in America, the country with the greatest health care hands down regardless of the BS spewed from Moore and company, does NOT mean you get health benefits.Seriously, are you actually ****ing stupid or is it your education system that has made you so arrogant? American healthcare does not even compare to that of most European countries, it's a spit in your ****ing face. Glad that you seem to like getting milked though, enjoy it.