Nascar Christians=Wrong!

[Hamel]

Ok I know im repetitive about this and im sure about 5 million people hate me now for all my religion threads but I dont care cause i like to speak my mine. I switched on FOX because i was looking for something on tv. Nascar is on I guess..Im no fan but i still have it on and i over here something so i look at it and there praying that the races dont die and crap and there praying to "GOD" not a buddist god or a hindu god...no a christian god. Of course!!! Why cant they just accept that everyone in the USA arent god dam CHRISTIANS AND THEY NEED TO RESPECT THAT!!! Its bs! And it pisses me off! Why can they just say "Well we hope you all do good and your come out ok" Instead of "Lets all pray to god that he is here with you please bow your heads and take off your hats......AMen!!!!" What the hell is wrong with people. They need to change there dam ways and respect other peoples views. Grr! Post your ideas and thoughts.

[Tool]

... Dude, why the **** do you care so ****ing much? The Nascar has nothing to do with the state meaning they can ****ing pray to whichever ****ing god they ****ing want to so go **** your ****ing self you ****shit. You say people should respect other people's opinions and shit yet you say yourself you don't like the fact that they're praying to a Christian god. Where's the respect for that ****ing opinion you ****ing hypocrite? Shut the **** up, you totally just screwed yourself over. Stop talking.

[Zarko the Mad]

Hahahahaahhaahahahahaha oh internet.

What little worth that post had was completely ruined by the rampant swearing of a sexually frustrated teenager. I respect your views on religion, Tool. I really do. I respect you if you're a Christian and I respect you if you're not. What I don't respect is your unfathomable need to cuss out one of your fellow board members because he happens to dislike the fact that the media loves Jesus and if anyone else doesn't they must be a terrorist. Of course I'm exaggerating, I don't mean to offend anybody, but thats rudimentarily what it is.

Kemwing, this is never going to change. You can complain about it and be angry about it all you want, but in the end it doesn't really change things at all. Until someone proves that God doesn't exist, this will be a common place, and there is nothing we can do to stop it. It doesn't matter if its right or wrong, its what is.

[[/sarcasm]]

I completely agree with Zarko. This country has been ruled by Christianity forever and, though I don't want to admit it, it will probably be ruled forever. You can't disprove the existance of a celestial being just as you can't prove they do exist. My advice is that you simply ignore that you don't agree with Chrisianity and go on with your life, as I unfortunately have. When I first realized that I don't believe in religion, I wanted to enlighten the world... But the world is quite a stubborn student.

[Hamel]

Tool, I take it that thats the only way that you can express yourself. No I cant really respect that because I can barely read what you wrote..But I tried my best through the many stars. I respect that people have their own religions but what I do not like is the fact that the united states population beilives that everyone in the U.S is indeed a Christian. So all publicity and such is usually about Christianity if about any religion. Mabey while your were reading you were so enraged for some odd reason that you didnt properly read. Thanks for your very rude opinion.

[Tool]

Well pretty much every **** is the f word so maybe that can help you read it better.

And to tell you the truth, I'm not angered by any of this. =\ It's the fact that you're so arrogant and think that just because some of the United States isn't Christian that a... Sport, I guess, can't use the word "God" or "Jesus" even thought the sport has no ties to state, thus giving them the ability to pray to whichever God they ****ing want to. So stop trying to stop something that you'll never be able to. Again, you say you want people to respect other people's views, then accept the fact that the people at Nascar are ****ing Christian and respect them. Hypocrite, just stop proving my points for me, seriously, it's getting ridiculous. =\

[Zarko the Mad]

Of course, thats taking into account the wild assumption that everyone who works at NASCAR is a Christian, which is pretty improbable.

[xDBD]

I'm redneck as the day is long, end of story. Nascar is like, everything to me. I don't currently attend church, and I don't really follow the Christian religion.

Nascar is privately owned. It's not owned and ran by the general public, the government, Buddhists, Athiests, or any of that other bullshit. It's owned by CHRISTIANS(no shit, eh?) and believe it or not, the majority of the racers are CHRISTIANS, and a large chunk of the American population who view Nascar are either Athiest or Christian. How many Buddhist Nascar fans do you know? Not to be stereotypical, but i've never really heard of ANY.

All the racers take their hats/helments/etc off and bow their heads and put their right hand over their heart for prayer and the National Anthem. Well over 80% of the Audience does too, as I've attended more races than you've watched. I can safely say that by your post.

People who are against religion on TV=Wrong!

Nobody forced you to watch that prayer. If it offended you, turn the channel. Nobody forced you to take someones beliefs to heart, even though it's obvious you don't believe or condone them. Nobody DAMN sure asked you to like Nascar, and nobody ever will.

Want to get mad at religious Zealots? Get mad at the Jehova's Witnesses who force themselves onto your property and refuse to leave. Get mad at the public schools who force children to learn Evolution or Christianity. At the end of the day, back off the privately owned corporations who choose to pray to whatever god they believe in. Frankly, it's none of your business and you look like a total jackass.

[PantallicA]

I'm redneck as the day is long, end of story. Nascar is like, everything to me. I don't currently attend church, and I don't really follow the Christian religion.

Nascar is privately owned. It's not owned and ran by the general public, the government, Buddhists, Athiests, or any of that other bullshit. It's owned by CHRISTIANS(no shit, eh?) and believe it or not, the majority of the racers are CHRISTIANS, and a large chunk of the American population who view Nascar are either Athiest or Christian. How many Buddhist Nascar fans do you know? Not to be stereotypical, but i've never really heard of ANY.

All the racers take their hats/helments/etc off and bow their heads and put their right hand over their heart for prayer and the National Anthem. Well over 80% of the Audience does too, as I've attended more races than you've watched. I can safely say that by your post.

People who are against religion on TV=Wrong!

Nobody forced you to watch that prayer. If it offended you, turn the channel. Nobody forced you to take someones beliefs to heart, even though it's obvious you don't believe or condone them. Nobody DAMN sure asked you to like Nascar, and nobody ever will.

Want to get mad at religious Zealots? Get mad at the Jehova's Witnesses who force themselves onto your property and refuse to leave. Get mad at the public schools who force children to learn Evolution or Christianity. At the end of the day, back off the privately owned corporations who choose to pray to whatever god they believe in. Frankly, it's none of your business and you look like a total jackass.

...Owned.

I like to consider myself completely atheist. I don't give a holy hell (see?) if anyone is religious, that's their decision, be it a good one or not. But if you try to press your religion unto me (Stupid Jehovah's) or just put every single bit of faith you have into a "God", but none in yourself, I'll get pissed. It's a sorry sight to see millions of people going to a church every Sunday to pray to some religious figurehead that they don't even KNOW exists. Sure, they think it, but has "God" ever come down the street and shook their hand? Has "God" ever given them the winning numbers to the lottery (People say he did, but did he really?) Did "God" ever do anything for you? I doubt it. You people can believe whatever the hell you want.

[Foog]

pantallica, you have both good and bad points, but i'm going to believe what i want, and that is catholocism. i've long given up evangelizing, as NO ONE CARES. i've tried, and failed, too many times. very good point, dbd, forcing beliefs on someone is almost always wrong. God has done things for me, pantallica, that i can't really prove or disprove (and here comes the corny cliche) i just .. felt .. His presence. i know, i know, laugh all you want.

****s.

[Obfuscate]

Do you know what pisses me off? This topic. Seriously it just pisses me off. I've had this burning sensation every time I SEE this topic to flame the living ***** out of you...but alas I have witheld. I'm not chritsian, even though my story may make me look like I am, but I dont really have a problem if people feel the need to pray before they go 200mph+ around an oval track with 30 other people who are just as damned and determined as them to win. This may seem hipocritical but hell I would pray too if I knew I could go up like a tinder box in a match factory at any moment. So do I think we should "force" religon on people? No. Do I think we should let people pray that they don't blow up while going 200mph around an oval track? HELL *****IN' YES! I dont know if you knew this but...*leans in close to his ear* YOUR REMOTE CONTROL HAS AN OFF BUTTON FOR YOUR TV ON IT!

[Hamel]

Haha, this actually makes me laugh. You guys are all trying to turn this around me and mix up my words and all and say that im the bad guy here. Read very carefully. I am not saying they are pushing their views on me at all. I understand that there is an "off" button on my remote, im opinionated not stupid. Its really not all about the nascar thing that I am upset about. That was just one more thing that adds on to everything in the united states that seems catholic. For example money, its made by the state but yet it says "In god we trust." But what ever happened to seperation of church and state? Church doesn't make money guys. Im just upset that everyone thinks were all christians and when people come up to me and there like give thanks to god for everything you have.....and then I tell them im nowhere near religion and they get upset with me, tell me im stupid, im wrong, im not worth listening too. Im just another piece of shit kid who is "against god and a worshiper of Satin" when I dont beilive in either. Its bullshit that they would come say that to me because I have my own opinions. But! If publicity didnt make everything look catholic then I doubt that would ever happen because there would be way more people standing up for what they beilive in. But I would say mabey some people know what they beilive in, and not just religion I mean life in general, but there too coward to stand up to their peers, elders, and what not and just come out and say it. They dont want to feel rejected, thats what I think. Now I know someone like DBD or Tool or someone else will come back flaming me because it seems like you guys can have a civil conversation without it looking like this "******** ***** *** * ** * ****!!!" If its going to be like that dont bother talking.

[Fuggle]

Haha, this actually makes me laugh. You guys are all trying to turn this around me and mix up my words and all and say that im the bad guy here. Read very carefully. I am not saying they are pushing their views on me at all. I understand that there is an "off" button on my remote, im opinionated not stupid. Its really not all about the nascar thing that I am upset about. That was just one more thing that adds on to everything in the united states that seems catholic. For example money, its made by the state but yet it says "In god we trust." But what ever happened to seperation of church and state? Church doesn't make money guys. Im just upset that everyone thinks were all christians and when people come up to me and there like give thanks to god for everything you have.....and then I tell them im nowhere near religion and they get upset with me, tell me im stupid, im wrong, im not worth listening too. Im just another piece of shit kid who is "against god and a worshiper of Satin" when I dont beilive in either. Its bullshit that they would come say that to me because I have my own opinions. But! If publicity didnt make everything look catholic then I doubt that would ever happen because there would be way more people standing up for what they beilive in. But I would say mabey some people know what they beilive in, and not just religion I mean life in general, but there too coward to stand up to their peers, elders, and what not and just come out and say it. They dont want to feel rejected, thats what I think. Now I know someone like DBD or Tool or someone else will come back flaming me because it seems like you guys can have a civil conversation without it looking like this "******** ***** *** * ** * ****!!!" If its going to be like that dont bother talking.

I enjoy guessing the ****'s, I see it as a game. By the way if you had trouble reading Tool's post your an idiot, every **** starts with an f and ends with a k. Look at the majority of Nascar watchers, They are southern, mostly Christian. Most southerners (rednecks if you call it that) take pride in their religion/church. They will make Sunday a day where they relax and go to church I've been to Nascar races before and they will be ready to take their hats off because they love showing respect to god and the drivers. If they said Hey guys good luck dont die. How would that make you feel? If your a die-hard christian as most drivers/watchers are you better be praying to god. Kemwing are you one to oppose the Pledge of Allegiance also? Same idea, those who came up with it/amended were christian imagine that. Im an atheist myself. I laugh at those who take religion so seriously that it disrupts life or those that get offended if they dont believe in god or of another religion. Big ****ing deal its a 4-5 word thing that has roots of religion, Deal with it.

[Zarko the Mad]

Who the **** cares?

[Aemaeth]

In other words, Christians pull off their noses to spite their faces, Dont listen to them, Christianty is the most bloody and underhand religion out their, along with islam. Christianty is the cause of most wars, but in their own heads they are all so Goody goody. But, Alas, I dont think they are all that bad, My Friends mother is christian, And she is very Accepting of what i think, She herself says that most of her religion is full of Hypocrits. I neither hate the christian or the Atheist. I beleive in what i beleive, thats it, let them beleive what they beleive as long as they dont push into your face.

[xDBD]

Haha, this actually makes me laugh. You guys are all trying to turn this around me and mix up my words and all and say that im the bad guy here. Read very carefully. I am not saying they are pushing their views on me at all. I understand that there is an "off" button on my remote, im opinionated not stupid. Its really not all about the nascar thing that I am upset about. That was just one more thing that adds on to everything in the united states that seems catholic. For example money, its made by the state but yet it says "In god we trust." But what ever happened to seperation of church and state? Church doesn't make money guys. Im just upset that everyone thinks were all christians and when people come up to me and there like give thanks to god for everything you have.....and then I tell them im nowhere near religion and they get upset with me, tell me im stupid, im wrong, im not worth listening too. Im just another piece of shit kid who is "against god and a worshiper of Satin" when I dont beilive in either. Its bullshit that they would come say that to me because I have my own opinions. But! If publicity didnt make everything look catholic then I doubt that would ever happen because there would be way more people standing up for what they beilive in. But I would say mabey some people know what they beilive in, and not just religion I mean life in general, but there too coward to stand up to their peers, elders, and what not and just come out and say it. They dont want to feel rejected, thats what I think. Now I know someone like DBD or Tool or someone else will come back flaming me because it seems like you guys can have a civil conversation without it looking like this "******** ***** *** * ** * ****!!!" If its going to be like that dont bother talking.

I said the S-Word twice, and damn once. Find one (and I quote you) "******** ***** *** * ** * ****!!!" in my post. Better yet, I challenge you to find ONE asterisk in my post. Asterisk being a "*."

You won't find any. I was no more ignorant, narrow-minded, loud-mouthed, or forceful than you. I was only as civil as you were. If you want civil posts, try posting civil to begin with. Okay?

Seriously, if you want to flame forced religion, flame FORCED RELIGION. When is the last time a Nascar official asked you who you believed in? When's the last time Tony Stewart(racer for you uneducated fools) asked you to give thanks to God and pray for salvation? I can safely answer a "Never," for you. Tell those damned Jehova Witnesses to stop preaching their word to people who don't care. Why don't you fight the people who insist on teaching Evolution? Which, from a scientific point of view, is just as weightless as religion.

You're barking up the wrong tree, bubba. Back off while you're ahead.

[Aemaeth]

I wouldn't say evoulution is weightless.

[xDBD]

Evolution is no more set in stone than Jesus Christ. Christians claim god dwells in their souls every day, scientists claim we evolved from monkies.

Can we detect Jesus in ones soul? Can we find God's realm in which he rules and lives?

Can monkies talk? Can we time travel and watch monkies slowly evolve into the modern human form?

I think we know the answer to these questions.



Weightless was the wrong word, I will give you that. Evolution is FAR from being proven, however.

[Aemaeth]

Evolution is no more set in stone than Jesus Christ. Christians claim god dwells in their souls every day, scientists claim we evolved from monkies.

Can we detect Jesus in ones soul? Can we find God's realm in which he rules and lives?

Can monkies talk? Can we time travel and watch monkies slowly evolve into the modern human form?

I think we know the answer to these questions.



Weightless was the wrong word, I will give you that. Evolution is FAR from being proven, however.

Stating the obvious is quite a skill on your part isn't it.

[DaCougarMech]

though i believe in evolution more than i believe in a celestial being, i can agree that each side has its good points. who's to say that they arent one and tha same?
too long have people divided them as black and white
i believe absolutely that people evolved from monkeys, from lizards, from fish, from bacteria
what im not so sure about is whose hand is behind evolution. im not saying i dont believe god created the universe
im just saying that in my mind, the position is available