Nascar Christians=Wrong!

**Tool** · 02-15-2005, 08:34 AM

Originally Posted by Kemwing

For example money, its made by the state but yet it says "In god we trust." But what ever happened to seperation of church and state? Church doesn't make money guys. Im just upset that everyone thinks were all christians and when people come up to me and there like give thanks to god for everything you have.....and then I tell them im nowhere near religion and they get upset with me, tell me im stupid, im wrong, im not worth listening too. Now I know someone like DBD or Tool or someone else will come back flaming me because it seems like you guys can have a civil conversation without it looking like this "******** ***** *** * ** * ****!!!" If its going to be like that dont bother talking.

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As for the money thing, I'm believing it's based on the fact that the Free Masons who designed the original dollar bills were all Christian. And you just happen to be the only ****ing person in the world who cares so much that a dollar bill says "God". =\

And yeah, you're not worth listening to, because you're biased, much like me and everyone else. But yeah, no one's worth listening to. Honestly, no one is. The only person you need to listen to is yourself and I'm pretty ****ing sure no one else thinks you're worth listening to. Especially the people in power.

Oh yeah, **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** ****.

Oh, and you said:

Originally Posted by Kemwing

and then I tell them im nowhere near religion and they get upset with me, tell me im stupid, im wrong, im not worth listening too.

You're doing the same ****ing thing. Ok, so again, YOU'RE ****ING CONTRADICTING YOURSELF YOU ****ING DIPSHIT. NO ONE CARES WHAT A HYPOCRITE ****ING HAS TO SAY.

**Hamel** · 02-15-2005, 08:43 AM

Evolution does not mean becoming from monkeys. Its means evolving to better suit yourself. Evolving from monkeys I beilive is pretty much just out there. But evolution in general is abosolutley, basically a fact. Everything evolves to better suit changes in the enviorment.

Also, I was mostly talking to Tool about the swearing, and I knew basically what it said but I was making a point that he needs to be a little more mature.

And once again you keep saying that im flaming religion and that im not flaming forced and stuff like this. Well, im not flaming either. Im proving a point and im doing it pretty respectfully. Im not calling them names or degrating them. Im simply saying that it isnt right that many people call us names and degrate us for not beiliving. I think that is wrong and im trying to show you people that mabey you should see this. And not sit there and allow it.

At the race they annouced that they were going to pray, so really they did come out and ask you to do so. So when you say did any racer come and ask you to prayer, well actually....they did. So your wrong there.

And this "owned" stuff is pretty childish. Try to act more mature on this subject. When you finish something there is no need for "0\/\//\/3D!!!"

And I know dbd you'll think this is all towards you because you acted like my last post was, well its to everyone.

**medicine_man** · 02-15-2005, 08:45 AM

Originally Posted by Kemwing

Tool, I take it that thats the only way that you can express yourself. No I cant really respect that because I can barely read what you wrote..But I tried my best through the many stars. I respect that people have their own religions but what I do not like is the fact that the united states population beilives that everyone in the U.S is indeed a Christian. So all publicity and such is usually about Christianity if about any religion. Mabey while your were reading you were so enraged for some odd reason that you didnt properly read. Thanks for your very rude opinion.

Are you kidding me?

Christianity is under heavy fire, and none of the media wants to be labled Christians.

And about NASCAR... If you don't want to hear them talk about God or pray, don't watch/listen to the damn program. Simple as that. Why chose to listen?

I'm assuming you don't go to church. Why? Because they talk about God, and most people that attend church are of the Christian faith. Here's my question for you: Why do you chose to listen to the talk of God on NASCAR? Also - I'm pretty sure that most of the people who watch/attend NASCAR races are Christians. So why involve yourself? You don't involve yourself with church.

**Hamel** · 02-15-2005, 08:47 AM

To Tool:

I can tell you that I am not the only one that beilives that its not right to have money say "in god we trust." I know a lot of people that beilive this. But next, knowing the person you are, will say oh well he is a loser so I dont care. And Everyone is worth listening to. You just dont have an open mind. And im not a hibercrate as you claim. Im not telling christians, catholics or any religion their wrong. But im saying that it shouldnt be shown to everyone in the united states when everyone doesnt beilive in it. I understand people beilive in their own thing and I respect that. It seems like you dont.

**Hamel** · 02-15-2005, 08:50 AM

Originally Posted by medicine_man

Are you kidding me?

Christianity is under heavy fire, and none of the media wants to be labled Christians.

And about NASCAR... If you don't want to hear them talk about God or pray, don't watch/listen to the damn program. Simple as that. Why chose to listen?

I'm assuming you don't go to church. Why? Because they talk about God, and most people that attend church are of the Christian faith. Here's my question for you: Why do you chose to listen to the talk of God on NASCAR? Also - I'm pretty sure that most of the people who watch/attend NASCAR races are Christians. So why involve yourself? You don't involve yourself with church.

I dont involve myself in nascar, that was the only time I have ever seen nascar. I also do not attend church because I am not religous. But say I wanted to watch nascar..well jeese..shouldnt I be able to without listening to the god thing....is it soooo wrong? Really is it?

**medicine_man** · 02-15-2005, 08:51 AM

Originally Posted by Kemwing

To Tool:

I can tell you that I am not the only one that beilives that its not right to have money say "in god we trust." I know a lot of people that beilive this. But next, knowing the person you are, will say oh well he is a loser so I dont care. And Everyone is worth listening to. You just dont have an open mind. And im not a hibercrate as you claim. Im not telling christians, catholics or any religion their wrong. But im saying that it shouldnt be shown to everyone in the united states when everyone doesnt beilive in it. I understand people beilive in their own thing and I respect that. It seems like you dont.

UHHHHHH.

Check out the title of the thread. "Nascar Christians=Wrong!"

???

To your post above mine Kemwing: Turn your television on after the prayer. Common sense.

You don't involve yourself with NASCAR? If you didn't involve yourself (listen to the program about it) then this thread wouldn't exist. Again, common sense.

**PantallicA** · 02-15-2005, 08:55 AM

Originally Posted by medicine_man

UHHHHHH.

Check out the title of the thread. "Nascar Christians=Wrong!"

???

To your post above mine Kemwing: Turn your television on after the prayer. Common sense.

*Insert blatant immaturity here* That's for you, Kemwing.

Kemwing, I don't see where you get off on all this. Religion is fake. If you say you're not religious, why care?

**medicine_man** · 02-15-2005, 08:56 AM

Originally Posted by Kemwing

And this "owned" stuff is pretty childish. Try to act more mature on this subject. When you finish something there is no need for "0\/\//\/3D!!!"

Who the hell even said that?

**PantallicA** · 02-15-2005, 08:57 AM

Originally Posted by medicine_man

Who the hell even said that?

/me raises hand

**Hamel** · 02-15-2005, 08:57 AM

Did you read my first post? There was nothing on so I switched on the t.v and that happened to be on, therefore I saw the first part. And here take an example what if....During the prayer they were gonna have the best, biggest, I mean amazing fireworks display that you just couldnt miss! Well what then..their pretty much making you listen to the pray if you want to watch the display. But wait you will say plug your ears. Well there is the best band in the world there. There the most famous and best band ever. So what are you to do? And the "Nascar Christians=Wrong" I think that it is wrong that they do this, and you know what "this" is.

**medicine_man** · 02-15-2005, 09:00 AM

Originally Posted by Kemwing

Did you read my first post? There was nothing on so I switched on the t.v and that happened to be on, therefore I saw the first part. And here take an example what if....During the prayer they were gonna have the best, biggest, I mean amazing fireworks display that you just couldnt miss! Well what then..their pretty much making you listen to the pray if you want to watch the display. But wait you will say plug your ears. Well there is the best band in the world there. There the most famous and best band ever. So what are you to do? And the "Nascar Christians=Wrong" I think that it is wrong that they do this, and you know what "this" is.

...Seriously, this is too easy.

Quit "what iffing." Have you ever seen a band or firework show during the prayer at a NASCAR race? No, and you never will.

**medicine_man** · 02-15-2005, 09:02 AM

Originally Posted by -PantallicA-

/me raises hand

...Heh, whoops.

**[/sarcasm]** · 02-15-2005, 10:16 AM

Well, to clear a couple things up... Evolution is, indeed, things adapting to their surroundings, but natural selection has something to do with it as well. Think of it this way... Something is born with an abnormal mutation of, say... hair. The whatever with hair will obviously outlive a bald whatever if... say... there is another ice age. Therefore, the genes containing hair will pass on to make another whatever with hair. It's complicated, but I was trying to put in in layman's terms.

Also, the 'In God We Trust' wasn't included in the dollar bill until WWII, I believe.

**xDBD** · 02-15-2005, 10:36 AM

On my behalf, I do state the obvious, because if I went beyond that, I might be in some situations wrong.

I am that shallow and arrogant.

Really.

It's frankly none of anyones business but those who choose to be religious what they are. That's why these threads are totally irrelivant and retardedly useless and stupid.

Kem, if religion gets on your bad end, don't watch these TV shows. Kindly tell religious zealots you aren't interested and turn your back. Don't pay any mind to ****heads like myself.. and even better yet.. don't watch Nascar.

As an arrogant redneck who practically follows Nascar as a religion, i'm telling you right now, as a fellow forum brother....

my kind doesn't welcome you. We don't want you watching our blessed sport anymore than you want to hear us pray. Case closed.

^I'm not even being sarcastic, humerious, or remotely un-serious either.

**DaCougarMech** · 02-16-2005, 10:48 AM

here's an idea for fixing the money problem
how about adding an "a" in "in god we trust"?
making it "in a god we trust"
hey, it doesnt solve the problem completely. but it's a step closer to getting rid of it altogether and more religiously acceptable for today