Heavy Metal Discussion

[Moo_Phil_Moo]

First off, I think Ssabbath DID invent the genre, because Iommi was the first to use massively oversaturated gain for the time...hell, he even wanted his amps made with buit in distortion, which was something never requested before him. Tony also was the first to deviate from the simple EADGBE tuning, aka standard, dropping to Eb tunings and even Db tunings. I've been hooked on Black Sabbath since i was 5YO, mostly because my dad(RIP) listened to them like crazy. Sabbath has completely influenced my favorite types of music, namely metal, hard rock and some blues. I would have to agree that Sabbath are definitely the best metal band of all time, if not THE best band of all time. I love anything branching from Sabbath, therefore I love Ozzy's solo reign of godlike proportions, and now I'm hooked on BLS, because Sabbath = Ozzy = Zakk Wylde = BLS.

[10 man]

well looks like sabath is winnig by 1 vote right now. RIGHT ON ME!

my favorite lead and rhythm guitar would probably be Kerry King of Slayer

fave vox Matt Holt of Nothingface

fave drums probably Meshugahs Thomas Haake

fave bassist would be Tom Arraya of slayer

[Aemaeth]

Heavy metal wasn't something that was "invented". All music genres develop progressively, all having their influences. Pink Floyd was before, yet they didn't "invent" heavy metal. Be careful with Your terminology and know Your topic.

Oh shut up you pretentious fart. Pink floyd are pyschedelic rock.

[Baid]

Fav Vox- Ozzy Osbourne or Bruce ****inson...tie between those two(OMFG THEY EDIT ****INSON? WTF!!!)

Fav Guitarist- Randy Rhoads

Fav Bassist- Cliff Burton

Fav Drummer- Neil Peart

Haha, I am stupid. I voted Iron Maiden and I meant to choose Sabbath...rofl.

[Aemaeth]

Ill change your vote to Sabbath then.

[FraterPerdurabo]

Oh shut up you pretentious fart. Pink floyd are pyschedelic rock.

Sabbath was rock as well when they first started.

[Metalhead Steve]

Please explain your thinking in saying Black Sabbath were not the forefathers, originators, and 'creators' of heavy metal. Would you like to elaborate? Black Sabbath took the rythm styles of the Stones and the Beatles and combined it with the lead styles of the blues and created a style known as "Heavy Metal."

Tony Iommi was the first to really rely on the lower frets and open E strings to riff, and was probably the first to use overly saturated guitar tones.

Who came before them with the styles of heavy metal? I can't think of any. Who came after them in the style of heavy metal?

Really want me to list it? Please, explain how they aren't the forefathers of metal.

Couldn't have said it much better myself... and to dannation, woot for Matt Holt is awesome, I sing just like him IRL...

[Dooge]

y is metallica not in that poll? wtf?!?!?! \m/ Metallica \m/

[Metalhead Steve]

I guess because I don't like bands who steal all their good music from the they kicked out then when they write their own music it sucks... No offense

[[The Reaper]]

Is Rush's Drummer that great? All I've been hearing is that he's one of the best. I'm a fan of Rush btw, not trying to flaming them.

[Foog]

yeah, rush's drummer is very good.

[xDBD]

I guess because I don't like bands who steal all their good music from the they kicked out then when they write their own music it sucks... No offense

...And Justice For All was arguably Metallica at their strongest. Definitely does not "suck" by any definition of the word. Yes, James borrowed, and flat out stole sometimes, a lot of Dave's riffs and licks, but make no mistake: James was a driving creative force in Metallica. So was Cliff. Dave was great and he was an integral part of the band, but he wasn't everything.


That's a pisspoor reason not to include one of the best selling and most widely influential metal bands ever in a discussion about "Heavy Metal"



Whether you like them or not, I don't see how it's plausable to not include Metallica as one of the best. Influence wise, there aren't many who beat them. Even on a musicianship level they're almost untoutchable. Comercially they probably are the best metal band ever....

your argument is horribly flawed.

[Metalhead Steve]

I may have agreed about AJFA but you can't even hear the bass on that album.

[Moo_Phil_Moo]

forgot to post my fave musicians...
vox = Ozzy or Pat Lachman from Damageplan
guitar = Zakk Wylde/Randy Rhoads/Tony Iommi/Dimebag(RIP) - I just can't choose a favorite there!
bass = Mike Inez/Duff Mckagen/Steve Harris
drums = Dave Lombardo of Slayer

[Aemaeth]

Sabbath was rock as well when they first started.

Pink floyd always where psychedelic rock. Thats the difference.

[soulfly_NL]

Max Cavalera

Nuff said

[Dynafrom]

Favourite solo: Ride the lightning.

[black sabbath]

The options are shit...black sabbath opened the way up metal...PRIEST brought an image and a sound and on and on...Priest shits on Maidens face...maiden isnt even heavy....pantera is good but it could be easily replaced by pre '90 tallica. One positive is that there isn't any idiots in here listing lamb of god or something lol

[FraterPerdurabo]

The options are shit...black sabbath opened the way up metal...PRIEST brought an image and a sound and on and on...Priest shits on Maidens face...maiden isnt even heavy....pantera is good but it could be easily replaced by pre '90 tallica. One positive is that there isn't any idiots in here listing lamb of god or something lol

Lol, don't try telling me that Iron Maiden isn't heavy metal. What do You think it is then, like Punk or something?

[black sabbath]

I'm not saying it's not metal, it just isnt very heavy nor can you get much from a lot of the lyric writing ...and on my first post I don't know why it says on and on after the priest thing...oh well...I'm a little distracted