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    Exclamation Dupe Method: Hellfire + Strafe = Lag.

    Dupe Method:

    This method is like the old lag methods. You'll need to join the same character in 2 games at the same time. It'll probably take 3 people to do this properly. To be able to join the same character in 2 games at the same time, you'll need to create a lot of lag.

    Blizzard denies that Hellfire creates lag but don't let them decieve you. They deny it because they don't want you trying this dupe method. It's true that Warden creates some lag but not nearly as much as Hellfire. If you haven't noticed, the realms have been getting worse and worse lately and I guarantee it is purely due to more people using this method privately. I'm at the point now where I can't even play the game. I have contacted Blizzard about the method and they obviously have not taken me seriously. Now, I'm posting the method to the public since it's apparent that Blizzard is only going to fix the problem when the realms are unplayable for everybody, and for an obvious reason they can't deny. I suggest you use it before they fix it. The great thing about this method is that you don't need a packet sender or any 3rd party programs. There's nothing for Warden to detect.

    Here's what you'll need:

    1. Amazon with Strafe
    2. Access to the Secret Cow Level
    3. Hellfire Large Charm

    Now, it's up to you on what else you will need beyond this. If your Amazon is uber, you might not need anything. If it's not, you might need a holy freeze merc escort or paladin, etc.

    1. Load up your Amazon with all the items you want to dupe.

    2. Make a game (Game A). Take your Amazon to the Secret Cow Level, round up some cows and start Strafing away. You'll notice hellfire going off all over the place.. that is until your game gets nailed by the huge amount of lag this generates. You need to maintain this strafe for probably a few minutes. It's better to maintain a slow, steady lag than huge bursts. The goal is to disconnect the game server from the realm server without completely dropping your game. You might want to use /fps to keep track of your ping and figure out where you need to maintain it to keep the game disconnected without dropping. Obviously, you don't want to kill your cow buddies since you need to keep hitting them to set off hellfire so a weaker bow with knockback might be best.

    3. From outside the game, have someone keep trying to join the game with the wrong password. If the game is still connected, you'll get the bad password message. If the game desynched, you'll get the game does not exist message. This is what you need. If you can get the "game does not exist" and you are clearly still in that game, you've successfully desynched the game from the realm server without dropping it. Now you're ready to dupe. It's important to maintain that desynch though so don't let up on the strafing just yet. If you stop, the game will resynch back up.

    4. Once Game A (the game you are strafing cows with to make lag) is desynched, on another instance of Diablo, log onto your Amazon and repeatedly attempt to join another game (Game B) with her. If you're successful, you'll still be strafing cows in Game A and you'll also be in Game B at the same time with the same character. You're almost home free.

    5. In Game B, dump all the items off your Amazon and have a mule character pick them up and hold on to them. As soon as you've dumped her inventory, Save & Exit her out of Game B. You've just saved your Amazon with an empty inventory but don't worry.. that will soon change.

    6. After you're out of Game B, in Game A slowly let off the strafe. Watch your ping go down and the game resynch back up with the realm server. You'll know it's back up when you try to join it from the outside with a bad password and you get the bad password message again instead of game does not exist. Once this has happened, you need to do something to cause a save on your Amazon. Have another character join and leave Game A to save you. Then, leave Game A with the Amazon. You've just saved over your empty Amazon with the full one.

    7. Create another game to check your Amazon's inventory and your mule's inventory from Game B. Both characters should have complete copies of the Amazon's inventory. Congratulations. You've just duped and you didn't use any hacks or anything so you should be completely invisible to Blizzard.

    Have fun!

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    Duping is something for idiots. Blizzard will recognize it and ban you. Please close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaZzor
    Duping is something for idiots. Blizzard will recognize it and ban you. Please close.
    They can't bann you for strafing in a cow game buddy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StevenEirich
    They can't bann you for strafing in a cow game buddy.
    strafing no?
    strafing in a devious manner as an attempt to cheat the system.....yes
    You said so much without ever parting your lips.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tap
    strafing no?
    strafing in a devious manner as an attempt to cheat the system.....yes
    Yeah but your only strafing,making lag, and xfering your items to a mule.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tap
    strafing no?
    strafing in a devious manner as an attempt to cheat the system.....yes

    Strafing in a devious manner.....hmmmmmmmm

    Quote Originally Posted by Bloodangel26
    i have 2 comps, so i can almost pull it off..if anyone needs help doing it or can help me (i wont need for a while since i dont have the strafer or anything high lvl to dupe yet) let me know

    quick question also, is there any other item it will work with besides hellfire? i dont have one of those yet and probably wont for a while(if ever)

    I wonder if a BOTD Bow would work with the poison nova. When my zon uses hers it goes off a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KaosKing
    Strafing in a devious manner.....hmmmmmmmm




    I wonder if a BOTD Bow would work with the poison nova. When my zon uses hers it goes off a lot.
    Nah, because You would be killing the cows. Only use a shitty cracked bow with knockback. My friends and I are going to try it out once my brother comes back from Italy, and we are going to use an Amazon with strafe and a bonemancer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaZzor
    Duping is something for idiots. Blizzard will recognize it and ban you. Please close.

    lol please leave.

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    Because You dupe, it doesn't automatically mean that You have low intelligence. Instead, it's the kind of people that post such a post in the dupes and hacks section that are the idiots.

    Quote Originally Posted by RaZzor
    Duping is something for idiots. Blizzard will recognize it and ban you. Please close.
    Anyway, I presume that You don't really need an amazon for this, just anybody that can create loads of lag, such as a bone necro... I may try this one out, because my brother is routing his connection through U.S servers (they blocked his Diablo port at uni), meaning that he's got psycho lag alread, about 600-1000. Maybe You could do this without even casting, spamming, if You were just dowloading something at the same time, causing the game to get very slow?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FraterPerdurabo
    Anyway, I presume that You don't really need an amazon for this, just anybody that can create loads of lag, such as a bone necro... I may try this one out, because my brother is routing his connection through U.S servers (they blocked his Diablo port at uni), meaning that he's got psycho lag alread, about 600-1000. Maybe You could do this without even casting, spamming, if You were just dowloading something at the same time, causing the game to get very slow?
    You want the server to experience lag, not just your client. If your client lags too much the server may disconnect it. But what you want is the server to lag so much that B.net disconnects the server temporarily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaZzor
    Duping is something for idiots. Blizzard will recognize it and ban you. Please close.

    Than, dont dupe. Obviously blizzard will do it but you can still xfer to other account, if you did it of course.
    "Please close."
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    they dont ban for dupe, they just poof the dupes if they find them....how are they gunna ban you? that would be dumb on their part. for all they know you traded for the item...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bloodangel26
    they dont ban for dupe, they just poof the dupes if they find them....how are they gunna ban you? that would be dumb on their part. for all they know you traded for the item...
    Err, no... The items serial would be the same (it identifies the item practically, each person would have a list of serials that they have, two of the same shouldn't occure), which is how a dupe is found... If you got two of the same, then BOOM they know...


    PS. No luck with Hellfire charm, zon using multifire, and hellcast gaunts. It sucked... alot... put 1 into strafe, she was MUCH worse...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeratulsDownfall
    Err, no... The items serial would be the same (it identifies the item practically, each person would have a list of serials that they have, two of the same shouldn't occure), which is how a dupe is found... If you got two of the same, then BOOM they know...
    Maybe You traded for both of them?

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    wow blizzard patched lag? that's awesome! God you guys are ****ing stupid i swear. It's impossible to patch this problem unless they get A) A server with more ram/bigger processor. B) Re-write the game. C) You ****ing idiots stop playing and taking up server resources. Those are the only 3 solutions. Stop asking if it works of course it does. If you can't figure out how to make it lag then you don't deserve to dupe. People spend lots of time experimenting creating lag, you should too, don't be a moocher.

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    BOOM what they did is reduce the graphics on hellfire -_-'

    it is a LOT less laggy than it was before 1.11b

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    Quote Originally Posted by eximel
    wow blizzard patched lag? that's awesome! God you guys are ****ing stupid i swear. It's impossible to patch this problem unless they get A) A server with more ram/bigger processor. B) Re-write the game. C) You ****ing idiots stop playing and taking up server resources. Those are the only 3 solutions. Stop asking if it works of course it does. If you can't figure out how to make it lag then you don't deserve to dupe. People spend lots of time experimenting creating lag, you should too, don't be a moocher.
    Actually, if they fixed the "perming" of items via the trading and leaving, they could fix this in a sort of way like that. Other than that, they could make it so you can only login to the same account once. Or the same character (IE. A "That Character is currently in use" message)... Easy fix man...

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    Quote Originally Posted by FraterPerdurabo
    Maybe You traded for both of them?
    If that were the case, they would be given different serials... Example. The first item on the world would be 0x0, the next one 0x1... Say 0x0 is the Sorceress' Staff (the ****** one), then 0xD or so is a cracked dagger they found. If they were to trade or find another cracked dagger, it wouldn't be 0xD, it'd be a new serial like 0xF... A dupelicated item copies this serial as well... Causing there to be two 0xD's...

    Ofcourse, if you traded the same guy for both of them (the duped and the origional), then you would probably get one of em poofed. Like the above guy said.
    Last edited by ZeratulsDownfall; 01-21-2006 at 02:39 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeratulsDownfall
    If that were the case, they would be given different serials... Example. The first item on the world would be 0x0, the next one 0x1... Say 0x0 is the Sorceress' Staff (the ****** one), then 0xD or so is a cracked dagger they found. If they were to trade or find another cracked dagger, it wouldn't be 0xD, it'd be a new serial like 0xF... A dupelicated item copies this serial as well... Causing there to be two 0xD's...
    No shit, Sir. What I am saying is that You cannot ban people on the basis of having items with duplicated identities in their inventories.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FraterPerdurabo
    Maybe You traded for both of them?
    the serial would remain the same, once it finds two identical ones it'll delete one. My guess is it'll delete the duped one and keep the origional... (though on Diablo 1 that wasn't the case at all it appears.)

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