President Bush

**SpoonMan999** · 05-25-2006, 02:03 AM

Originally Posted by Xx~****~xX

if ur not there for oils wat r u there for? to liberate the ppl? i dont think so wen there are other countries closer 2 home who need help...... bush wanted the oil and he use the excusse were helping rid iraq of the terorists

this is his cover up story!!!! if u belive this ur a dumb ass!!! he is after oil and he will never take opil from Canada because our oil is in the sand the oil in iraq is in pockets under the earth which is less costly to extract!! also u guys have an oil reserves in alaska!! but again its cheaper to get it from iraq cuz there refineries are already made and functioning all they got to do is go there and steal the big barrels labled OIL...........liberating iraq was the 1 god thing that came form the war...... and did u no that the bombs the US drops cost more than the stuff there bombing!!! lol

Have you even read any of my posts other than the one you just quoted?

1. We did not use the liberation of Iraq as an excuse as it was not the reason we went, we went because three major intelligence agencies (only on of them being our own) told us that Saddam had or is at least pursuing weapons of mass destruction.

2. How many countries close to home have a mass murdering dictator with an urge to get WMDs that also has a well known hatred of the US?

3. We don't go into Alaska because the goddamned EPA wont let us. They want to preserve the natural state of Alaska and it's wildlife so drilling there is out of the question.

4. You called me a dumb ass but your post is hardly legible.

5. And lastly, you clearly have no idea what you're talking about.

Originally Posted by dannation

wow guys. this debate is great. i feel like you all have solved the worlds problems, now we can live a free and happy life world wide. nothing like defending a never ending argument to make the day a better one. keep up the good work guys.

Oh god I love it when someone comes in and tries to pretend like he's mature and pull the, "You're not helping! In fact you're just making things worse by arguing!" Well, we argue because we enjoy a good debate and it's a way to vent frustration and express our opinions. Of course every now and then you get people like **** who think they know what's going on and splurt out some crap that you can hardly read...but that's the internet for ya.

**10 man** · 05-25-2006, 03:19 AM

OMG lol the king of quotes has spoken. you make well writen points and you seem to be well inforomed in the matter but making a statement (quoted from who, i have no idea) like "You're not helping! In fact you're just making things worse by arguing" is about as pointless as my post that you quoted. at no point did i say your not helping matters and your making it worse. my sarcasm was directed to the fact that this thread has gone on for what ?? like over 2 months now. seems to be getting a bit redundent in here. As for me comming in and masqurerading as a mature adult, your openion is duly noted. next time im come in as a ranting forum addict who cant get enough of one topic of discussion. oh well i still like you.

**SpoonMan999** · 05-25-2006, 03:38 AM

Your sarcasm implied the uselessness of this topic and next time you want to make referance to it's length try including it in the post as it was not there, yet you say that was your point.

**10 man** · 05-25-2006, 07:20 AM

better yet. get over yourself and move beyond this. now i am clicking the unsubscribe button so i dont have to ever see this topic come up again.

**SpoonMan999** · 05-25-2006, 07:29 AM

Get over myself? I don't remember building myself up or expressing any feeling of superiority. Some people just can't take it.

**Bloodangel26** · 05-26-2006, 12:43 AM

poor spoonman got left all alone with the morons when i got temp banned....

****, spellcheck before you call anyone a dumbass plz. you dont think we liberated people? have you ever seen the photage of the iraqi people CELEBRATING our arrival in bhagdad? now that to me was all the evidence i needed to know that the US was doing the right thing by invading iraq. what kind of country celebrates being invaded? thats really all i have to say to you. spoon already made you look stupid enough i think.

sarvok, you just lost a ton of respect from me. you are talking about blowing up the president in his plane, but is the president the only person on the plane? no, so do the flight attendants, pilots, guards, etc deserve to get blown up too? while your on the topic of who you want to kill, why dont you go take a gun and shoot random people in the street, since you seem to be so keen on dealing out death and judgement. apparently you are just so wise that you know who deserves to die and who doesnt. next time you feel the need to say someone needs to die, perhaps you should look in a mirror and think about if you are really any better. please keep idiotic comments like this to yourself from now on.

**GodandRock** · 06-01-2006, 12:04 PM

Its true that people in Baghdad celebrated US's arrival. But that doesn't mean that US later started recieving hate. In the beginning, US did the good stuff and people celebrated. But its a fact that they later wanted the US to leave because they got way too much into the business.

**Bloodangel26** · 06-01-2006, 12:15 PM

the problem with that is that if the US left, the government the iraqi people just voted for would crumble. so they may think they want the troops to leave, but they really dont

**SpoonMan999** · 06-02-2006, 02:19 AM

Originally Posted by GodandRock

Its true that people in Baghdad celebrated US's arrival. But that doesn't mean that US later started recieving hate. In the beginning, US did the good stuff and people celebrated. But its a fact that they later wanted the US to leave because they got way too much into the business.

Again those in the opposition prove they have no freaking clue as to what's going on. Where are you get your information from, CNN? MSNBC? Here's direct information from a soldier that spent a year in Baghdad that I know personaly, my step brother, most of the people that are fighting us in Iraq are NOT Iraqis. Most of the bombs going and fire fights are started by terrorists from outside Iraq that came to fight Americans. The Iraqis do want us there, in fact the only strong opposition against us that are actually Iraqi are the Shiite clans. It's the damned media that wants to paint this picture of mayhem needless violence because, like everyone else, they have an agenda.

**Mozzy** · 06-06-2006, 07:07 AM

no matter how you look at it war is simply one thing, young men blowing each other's legs off. it's a terrible thing and should always be avoided. i have no idea if iraq has WMD and neither does anyone else unless they are in iraq looking at them or at least have some hard evidence.

cuba had nuclear weapon capability on the rise and president kennedy avoided a war with them and they're friggin right next to us. bush landed us face first in a pile of dogshit halfway across the world with no hard evidence. is it even worth comparing? have you ever heard that man talk? he can't give a straight answer to important questions because he's scared to death of exposing whatever the truth actually is. a retired member of the NSA stood up at a white house press conference and accused donald rumsfelf of lying, do you suppose he was on LSD? all rumsfeld said was that he's not lying? wow that's a 5 year old comeback.

maybe getting rid of saddam was a good thing, but at what cost? that region has been killing the shit out of each other for thousands of years, who the hell is bush to think he can "solve" it with one war??? thousands and thousands of iraqi women are addictied to valium thanks to this war. who do you think is providing them withthis valium? do you think it's given away? hell no it isn't they're making serious profit from it.

how can anyone have the nerve to say war is a good thing?

what this country needs is a *** smoking gay president. not some macho prick that has to act like he's so serious all the time. seriousness alwyas leads to a fight.

just realized how much i was cussing...sorry...

**Mathalamus** · 06-06-2006, 07:46 AM

bush sucks if canada had a chance they whold just invade usa and jail bush..thatll be the end of the usa/iraq war...

**Bloodangel26** · 06-06-2006, 07:57 AM

Originally Posted by mathalamus-a

bush sucks if canada had a chance they whold just invade usa and jail bush..thatll be the end of the usa/iraq war...

you are the dumbest person i have ever met

**SpoonMan999** · 06-06-2006, 08:02 AM

Originally Posted by Mozzy

no matter how you look at it war is simply one thing, young men blowing each other's legs off. it's a terrible thing and should always be avoided. i have no idea if iraq has WMD and neither does anyone else unless they are in iraq looking at them or at least have some hard evidence.

cuba had nuclear weapon capability on the rise and president kennedy avoided a war with them and they're friggin right next to us. bush landed us face first in a pile of dogshit halfway across the world with no hard evidence. is it even worth comparing? have you ever heard that man talk? he can't give a straight answer to important questions because he's scared to death of exposing whatever the truth actually is. a retired member of the NSA stood up at a white house press conference and accused donald rumsfelf of lying, do you suppose he was on LSD? all rumsfeld said was that he's not lying? wow that's a 5 year old comeback.

maybe getting rid of saddam was a good thing, but at what cost? that region has been killing the shit out of each other for thousands of years, who the hell is bush to think he can "solve" it with one war??? thousands and thousands of iraqi women are addictied to valium thanks to this war. who do you think is providing them withthis valium? do you think it's given away? hell no it isn't they're making serious profit from it.

how can anyone have the nerve to say war is a good thing?

what this country needs is a *** smoking gay president. not some macho prick that has to act like he's so serious all the time. seriousness alwyas leads to a fight.

just realized how much i was cussing...sorry...

Kennedy avoided a war, that he also almost started by continuing the anti-communist sentiment in the US, because it would have put us up against Russia. This would have been a bad idea cause Russia had A LOT of nukes.

All you have is speculation...once again you people fail to provide facts.

Originally Posted by mathalamus-a

bush sucks if canada had a chance they whold just invade usa and jail bush..thatll be the end of the usa/iraq war...

I would really love to see you guys try lol.

**Mathalamus** · 06-06-2006, 08:04 AM

im just not the long typer..i have the idea but i can type 2 billion lines

**SpoonMan999** · 06-06-2006, 08:13 AM

Canada doesn't have either the fire power or the man power.

**Tap** · 06-06-2006, 08:17 AM

Originally Posted by mathalamus-a

im just not the long typer..i have the idea but i can type 2 billion lines

Thanks for not typing 2 billion lines. your ridiculous one liners are enough

**drt1245** · 06-06-2006, 09:00 AM

My second post, and I'm probably going to piss off a whole bunch of people. Lucky me.

First off, if you're too incompetent to actually use punctuation capitols, or the return key, you're an idiot.

Second, anyone that believes that Bush or anyone else in our government helped with 9/11, I really feel the urge to punch you because you are stupid enough to believe that someone in our government would have anything to do with the killing of tons of Americans. Also, there may very well have been (and probably were, but I'm not sure) threats and information that there would be an attack on 9/11. But, do you know how many threats our country gets a day? Additionally, do you know how hard it is to differentiate between a credible and phony threat?

Third, the "War against Terror"/"Struggle against Extremism"/Whatever you want to call it has had some of the fewest America casualties of ANY war, especially considering what we've accomplished, which now that I've mentioned accomplishments, I have to point them out for the people without brains.
-Saddam and his sons are dead or in prison. They were sick murderers and needed to be eliminated. They are/were the scum of humanity.
-Many Iraqis and Afghanistanis (Afghanistanians? Afghanistanites?) have been freed. I'm not sure what CNN says, since I don't watch that crap, but life SUCKED before we went in there. It may not be great now, hell, it may still suck, but it's a hell of a lot better than it was.
-Many terrorist groups have been eliminated or at least weakened.

Fourth, who cares if Clinton had an affair. He's a guy (a sleazy guy, but a guy nonetheless). He wanted to have sex. Hoorary for him.

Fifth (last one, I promise), Bush is not an idiot. Idiots cannot get the Presidency. Just because he isn't a good speaker doesn't mean he's an idiot.

**SpoonMan999** · 06-06-2006, 09:31 AM

I agree with all points but the fourth, I just can't respect a man that can't respect his own marriage and woman he claims to love. Also, I think the man was not the almighty leader that people think he was. Other than that, I agree.

**Venom** · 06-06-2006, 11:21 AM

Originally Posted by SpoonMan999

Canada doesn't have either the fire power or the man power.

then why do "your" forces train over here? hmmm
why do "your" nava seals train over here? HMMMMM!?!
we have quality not quanity minus an air force and a decent land based vehicles.... but if that would happen my god i would die from laughter.

**Mathalamus** · 06-06-2006, 11:40 AM

you know Canada is capable of nuking all of USA..it just needs one nuke from the usa and we'll copy it.. we have 16 million people in the military (maximum amount) so we can **** USA up if we wanted to but no..the USA is a place full of illiterate people (12%) and has too much crime better destroy than invade

USA has 1 million people in the military which i find it weird cause china has more people in military..