President Bush

**Quagmire_68** · 04-21-2006, 12:21 PM

http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/hoax/w...ents/2670/P40/

yes mcdonalds is outsourcing the drive through window and some others will probly start and yes the one here in kansas had an indian guy on it(in india) this is to god and rock

and also spoony dont *** the un the us cant do everyting on its own

also on the afghanistan thats where osma was supposd to be at the time thats y i said after 911 thats where we should have hit and obliterated all of the terrorists there before moven on maybe wed a got osama

**Venom** · 04-21-2006, 12:35 PM

spoon u will totaly hate me for what im about to say but i havent read any of the ultimate series i olny googled the name venom and found a pic that i liked
im currently trying to change my ava at the moment
and im quite currious about which venom you like the best i havnt seen that many variations of venom

**10 man** · 04-21-2006, 12:57 PM

ok .. the money issue.... dont care to much. we will probably go into a depresion at some point here. just hope that it isnt as bad as the 30's... that good old rubber band effect that Nixon gave us.
oil prices... there are so many variables involed with the price of crude per barrel that you cant penpoint it on one person. some of the main reasons its occuring today is that such things as the US and the UN telling Iran that they cant mine uranium so consiquently Iran either raises the price of crude or they cut us off completly. bad business but it could happen. anyway that is just one for instance of the many.
respecting the president. . well to each their own on that point. i have no need to respect a man i didnt vote for , i mean sure he is the US president but does he pay my power bill? no i dont think so.
my best friend just got back from baghdad last week. want to know what he said was going on there. . well pretty much nothing.. the daily road side bombing or suicide bomber.. maybe a few IED's (integrated explosive device) and what not but the main reason we have people there right now is to wait for the elections to finish up completly and for them to anounce a leader. then when that comes there will be another excuse to stay there and so on and so on. ill tell ya what. knowing that i feel that they should all come home and let the people deal with their own problems. of course another dictator would take over who is just as bad if not worse than the previous leader. really there isnt a black and white answer to the problem. bush wants it to be a "dimocracy" there ... that will never happen. has it happened in the last 2000 years.. nope. will it happen in the next 5 maybe for a minute or two but then its back to the way it has always been there. total chaos.
war on terrorism.. thats a joke. its just like Regans "war on drugs" its a catch phrase for them to use so they can basicly go where ever they want to and be the world police of that day. there is always terrorism. always will be. it really depends on what side of the glass your looking though. maybe to the poeple that we say are evil they feel as though they are freedom fighters and they want to have thier own land and freedoms. now before you say , hey this guy is a flag burning bastard who hates his country think again. i think the US is pretty cool. i was even in the Navy EOD community for 8 years. hell i was in iraq 5 times out of those 8 years for 6 months at a time. i know what its like there. i know what those guys are going through.. being away from their families, not knowing if they are going to get shot at that day or not. its a hard life and i know. thats why im all for them being pulled out and put some place else that is more benificial for us to be. well i guess im done with my little rant. hope you guys eventually get over this topic since its a dead horse by now.

**Quagmire_68** · 04-21-2006, 01:38 PM

i see no problem ending this on that post close it

**Bloodangel26** · 04-21-2006, 05:03 PM

Originally Posted by Quagmire_68

i see no problem ending this on that post close it

cause you have so much pull around here with your 10 posts and no one knowing or caring who you are

**SkyMonster** · 04-21-2006, 09:06 PM

blood... leave him alone you were there once too...

also this topic is getting way outta hand lol... like talking about peoples avatars

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also bush haters are still winning! (almost 50%)

SkyMonster

**Quagmire_68** · 04-22-2006, 02:14 AM

What a way to get members be an arse but i dont think im the only one who thinks it should be closed and i dont care if you dont know who i am or care who i am

**fleaflickerx** · 04-22-2006, 02:45 AM

Originally Posted by Bloodangel26

cause you have so much pull around here with your 10 posts and no one knowing or caring who you are

pwnt'
yea dann point was a good one to close on.

**Quagmire_68** · 04-22-2006, 04:50 AM

Originally Posted by fleaflickerx

pwnt'
yea dann point was a good one to close on.

yeah dann good point most forums are quality and not quantity of posts and yours are barley half readable your worse than me or anyone.

**SpoonMan999** · 04-22-2006, 06:04 AM

Actually that's not a good post to close it on. Dannation, if we leave now not only are we dooming the new government we tried to build and sending these people back to a life where they live in the fear of being murdered because they don't agree but we're also sending back coffins with flags wrapped around them filled with men and women who now died for NO GODDAMNED REASON. They sacrificed their lives to help these people and now everyone wants that sacrifice to be for nothing? All I have to say is how ****ing selfish of you people that wont to pull out and doom these people and practically piss on the memory of these soldiers. People always say they support the soldiers but not the war...tell me how you can believe in someone and support them if you disagree with their motives and are trying to stop them from doing what they came there to do? I'm going to quote my step brother who was stationed in Baghdad for over a year, "Anyone who says we need to pull out now is ****ing idiot. I didn't get shot at every day so you people could ***** about how much money is being spent or how these people should fend for themselves."

Oh and Venom, I'll make a new topic for comics discussion man. Way too off topic for this.

**Quagmire_68** · 04-22-2006, 06:38 AM

Originally Posted by SpoonMan999

Actually that's not a good post to close it on. Dannation, if we leave now not only are we dooming the new government we tried to build and sending these people back to a life where they live in the fear of being murdered because they don't agree but we're also sending back coffins with flags wrapped around them filled with men and women who now died for NO GODDAMNED REASON. They sacrificed their lives to help these people and now everyone wants that sacrifice to be for nothing? All I have to say is how ****ing selfish of you people that wont to pull out and doom these people and practically piss on the memory of these soldiers. People always say they support the soldiers but not the war...tell me how you can believe in someone and support them if you disagree with their motives and are trying to stop them from doing what they came there to do? I'm going to quote my step brother who was stationed in Baghdad for over a year, "Anyone who says we need to pull out now is ****ing idiot. I didn't get shot at every day so you people could ***** about how much money is being spent or how these people should fend for themselves."

Oh and Venom, I'll make a new topic for comics discussion man. Way too off topic for this.

it is possible to support the troops but not the war(you glad there over there doing what there country asks but that the war is dumb) and i dont think we should pull out we should finish the job and do it right so that it was for something and not nothing but how it was handled is why i do not like bush it was partly his commanders to but he has control to fire them or not and should make changes to people that can do the job right

**10 man** · 04-22-2006, 08:32 AM

Originally Posted by SpoonMan999

Actually that's not a good post to close it on. Dannation, if we leave now not only are we dooming the new government we tried to build and sending these people back to a life where they live in the fear of being murdered because they don't agree but we're also sending back coffins with flags wrapped around them filled with men and women who now died for NO GODDAMNED REASON. They sacrificed their lives to help these people and now everyone wants that sacrifice to be for nothing? All I have to say is how ****ing selfish of you people that wont to pull out and doom these people and practically piss on the memory of these soldiers. People always say they support the soldiers but not the war...tell me how you can believe in someone and support them if you disagree with their motives and are trying to stop them from doing what they came there to do? I'm going to quote my step brother who was stationed in Baghdad for over a year, "Anyone who says we need to pull out now is ****ing idiot. I didn't get shot at every day so you people could ***** about how much money is being spent or how these people should fend for themselves."

Oh and Venom, I'll make a new topic for comics discussion man. Way too off topic for this.

thanks for the openion. you can rant all you want. you really wont sway anyone to believe in anything and the argument is pointless. like i said beating a dead horse. you have probably said the same thing you just said a few times before or if you havnt then someone did. this argument is like arguing religion. i wont sway you my way and you will definatly not pull me your way. i respect your openion and feel that you have a lot of good points. if you really want to do something about it i sugjest you put your name on the dotted line and go over there yourself. see if you would like to stay there and help out the cause or see if you want to get out of there as soon as possible. maybe you dont want to though. i duno. maybe a draft will be implimented. who knows. well best of luck with your argument. maybe someone will hear ya out there.

**GodandRock** · 04-22-2006, 09:38 AM

Wow another buncha posts. Anyways... Ursuula, I respect your opinions, and i respect the fact that you respect mine. But, evenryone has their own opinions about respecting higher positions. Moving on...

This whole war thing. People dying, etc. It is a big deal, but that doesn't mean you make a big deal out of it. People die from war all the time. Its not like this is the worst war. People died in all wars, its just how the wars are. So using the "people are dying" reason to stop war is just a bit less effective.

Another thing that I'm wondering. Don't you guys think that US tries to boss everyone around and act all high and mighty? This whole Iraq has weopens shit, so what if they do have weopens, so does lots of other people. Making weopens isn't a threat, only using them is. Everyone has a right to defend themself. Also, why did the US have o come in and do this whole boss-around thing? Why are THEY so bothered by this? I didn't see any other countries giving two shits about the weopens. I'm not 100% sure of all the facts in this paragraph, so please tell me your comments to this.

**SpoonMan999** · 04-22-2006, 10:41 AM

Originally Posted by GodandRock

Wow another buncha posts. Anyways... Ursuula, I respect your opinions, and i respect the fact that you respect mine. But, evenryone has their own opinions about respecting higher positions. Moving on...

This whole war thing. People dying, etc. It is a big deal, but that doesn't mean you make a big deal out of it. People die from war all the time. Its not like this is the worst war. People died in all wars, its just how the wars are. So using the "people are dying" reason to stop war is just a bit less effective.

Another thing that I'm wondering. Don't you guys think that US tries to boss everyone around and act all high and mighty? This whole Iraq has weopens shit, so what if they do have weopens, so does lots of other people. Making weopens isn't a threat, only using them is. Everyone has a right to defend themself. Also, why did the US have o come in and do this whole boss-around thing? Why are THEY so bothered by this? I didn't see any other countries giving two shits about the weopens. I'm not 100% sure of all the facts in this paragraph, so please tell me your comments to this.

It's a very simple reason why we went in...we thought they had or were on the way to getting weapons of mass destruction and Saddam happens to be a MASS MURDERER. If he obtained those weapons there's no telling what he'd do with them.

**Bloodangel26** · 04-22-2006, 12:28 PM

Originally Posted by GodandRock

Another thing that I'm wondering. Don't you guys think that US tries to boss everyone around and act all high and mighty? This whole Iraq has weopens shit, so what if they do have weopens, so does lots of other people. Making weopens isn't a threat, only using them is. Everyone has a right to defend themself. Also, why did the US have o come in and do this whole boss-around thing? Why are THEY so bothered by this? I didn't see any other countries giving two shits about the weopens. I'm not 100% sure of all the facts in this paragraph, so please tell me your comments to this.

you really are pretty clueless arent you? first off, its weapons, not weopens. how is the us trying to boss everyone around by giving people FREE ELECTIONS?! we are encouraging them to run their own country, you dumbass. defending yourself is one then, developing weapons to murder massive amounts of people is another. other countries didnt 'give 2 shits'? then why did some of them come with us? or did bush pinch their ******s till they agreed?

**Ursuula** · 04-22-2006, 12:42 PM

I agree with spoonman on the whole, "I support the troops, just not the war" statements. I find it ridiculous too. But w/e you "support" is your choice. How would you feel if you were in war and you saw comments degrading your country and the countries choice?

Originally Posted by GodandRock

Wow another buncha posts. Anyways... Ursuula, I respect your opinions, and i respect the fact that you respect mine. But, evenryone has their own opinions about respecting higher positions. Moving on...

Another thing that I'm wondering. Don't you guys think that US tries to boss everyone around and act all high and mighty? This whole Iraq has weopens shit, so what if they do have weopens, so does lots of other people. Making weopens isn't a threat, only using them is. Everyone has a right to defend themself. Also, why did the US have o come in and do this whole boss-around thing? Why are THEY so bothered by this? I didn't see any other countries giving two shits about the weopens. I'm not 100% sure of all the facts in this paragraph, so please tell me your comments to this.

Hmm... isn't that what I said? You just restated what I said over. Anyways... the US is the one of the only countries who will stand up. They "act all high and mighty" protecting our ass. And can you honestly tell me that you believe that Saddam wouldn't have attacked not only the US but a nearby country with his new weapons that he obtained from Germany and France? And some of the other countries didn't "give two shits" or say shit about the weapons because they were the ones who sent/made them.

**Venom** · 04-22-2006, 01:47 PM

yeah they'll olny stand up when it become there problem or has a diverse affect on them in the second world war the took up arms after they were attacked that wanted nothing to do with the war in the first place they didn't stand up when it counted the most they just tryed to sit it out acting as if it wasn't there problem

personally i think saddam would not be that stupid when he could deal a even heavyer blow to the world be cutting of the supply of oil and driving up the cost if he had the weapons

**Bloodangel26** · 04-22-2006, 02:14 PM

Originally Posted by Venom

yeah they'll olny stand up when it become there problem or has a diverse affect on them in the second world war the took up arms after they were attacked that wanted nothing to do with the war in the first place they didn't stand up when it counted the most they just tryed to sit it out acting as if it wasn't there problem

such ****ing hypocrasy....you want us to stay out of everyone else's business except when you need help...like in ww2 venom every time you post in this thread, you further convince me that you are not very bright. quit while you arent too far behind...

**Venom** · 04-22-2006, 02:26 PM

just so you kno you right latly i've been digging at this half ass one sided info from years ago , well im sorry if my post are that offending to your ideal mind but its what i have to say and im saying it if you have that much of a problem dont read the ****ing post

most people will be hypocritical since not every one will understand both sides and even then its affected

i never said i wanted america to stay out of everyones business but that they usualy come charging in if it has something to do with them