**** Religion?

[soulfly_NL]

And is it so wrong that people chose to believe in something other than nothingness? If it gives them hope and pushes them harder to do better in life what does it matter, whatever it is? If Christanity gives millions of people hope and they Freely chose to believe in a higher power, then what is so wrong with that?

If using heroin gives me hope, and pushes me harder to do better in life, what does it matter?


Religion is a drug for the masses

[Z3R0]

Thank you...I think.

[DeathlyShadow]

yes, whats more likely? i superpowerful almighty being creats the world in 7 days for.. who the hell knows why. Or that a gaint rock in space was close enough and far enough away from the sun to harber 3 kidan of atoms that given enough time combine to creat a molicule that uses light as food and slowly evolves due to changes in the invirment.. Or no wait i forgot, god makes all of us the sticks up in our moms and plans everything we ever do.. In my opinon every person that truely thinks there is a god, should be put in a mental inc. Becasue if people that think that the goverment is plotting to kill them are put in there then why the hell arent people who think that a everlasting almights who the hell knows what rules everything in the univers and makes everything thin happen...................... bottom line THERE IS NO ****ING GOD! ANY ONE WHO BELIEVES IN GOD OR ANYTHING ALONG THAT LINE PLEASE GO KILL YOURSELF!!!!

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on another note, i understand the whole *it gives me hope* thing. BUt if you cant just get over the fact that there is not afterlife, there is no god there is no what gose around comes around. then are you really liveing? no, your liveing in your oun little place where theres a place for good people and a place for bad, and a god that makes everything for a reason, and makes everyhting fare. Just get over it and live your one life. and if you cant do that.. then again please kill yourself....

[SpoonMan999]

yes, whats more likely? i superpowerful almighty being creats the world in 7 days for.. who the hell knows why. Or that a gaint rock in space was close enough and far enough away from the sun to harber 3 kidan of atoms that given enough time combine to creat a molicule that uses light as food and slowly evolves due to changes in the invirment.. Or no wait i forgot, god makes all of us the sticks up in our moms and plans everything we ever do.. In my opinon every person that truely thinks there is a god, should be put in a mental inc. Becasue if people that think that the goverment is plotting to kill them are put in there then why the hell arent people who think that a everlasting almights who the hell knows what rules everything in the univers and makes everything thin happen...................... bottom line THERE IS NO ****ING GOD! ANY ONE WHO BELIEVES IN GOD OR ANYTHING ALONG THAT LINE PLEASE GO KILL YOURSELF!!!!

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on another note, i understand the whole *it gives me hope* thing. BUt if you cant just get over the fact that there is not afterlife, there is no god there is no what gose around comes around. then are you really liveing? no, your liveing in your oun little place where theres a place for good people and a place for bad, and a god that makes everything for a reason, and makes everyhting fare. Just get over it and live your one life. and if you cant do that.. then again please kill yourself....

You're an idiot and you should stop wasting my air. Seriously, stop breathing the world will be a better place.

Now that I got that out of the way let's look at your post and see if we can't figure out why I've made this comment. I haven't done a dissection post in a while and this proves a most intersting candidate to indulge in.

yes, whats more likely?

Please, share your wisdom!

i superpowerful almighty being creats the world in 7 days for.. who the hell knows why.

"I superpowerful almighty being" eh? So you're the being and have no idea why you created the Earth? I commend you for doing it in seven days, no small feat I'm sure, but this statement is a bit redundant here: "superpowerful almighty being." Might I suggest sticking with just one of those adjectives? You may have created man but we created the English language so I feel justified in my attempt to correct you. Though if I'm out of line please let me know.

Or that a gaint rock in space was close enough and far enough away from the sun to harber 3 kidan of atoms that given enough time combine to creat a molicule that uses light as food and slowly evolves due to changes in the invirment.

I see why you might question your own motives but here you question that you did it at all! Please, refrain from such modesty almighty Shadow! This theory is so far fetched I can't believe that you've given it a second thought! I mean how likely is it that this rock just poofed into existence with nothing to create it or the gases required to establish these molecules or even the sun required to feed them? For the scientific community I think this is a leap of faith...

I am, however, intrigued by this "invirment," perhaps you could indulge me with a better explanation of it? Though it may be beyond my petty human understanding.

Or no wait i forgot, god makes all of us the sticks up in our moms and plans everything we ever do..

I was always taught that you were an advocate of free will? You present a flaw in all that we have known! I thank you for teaching me the true meaning of my existance! Now that I know the church was lying about the whole free will thing I can ignore it and just go down the path you have set!

In my opinon every person that truely thinks there is a god, should be put in a mental inc.

Mental inc? There's a Mental Incorporated out there and we should send the majority of the population of the planet to them? Are they some miracle company that desperately needs more workers of a spiritual nature so that they can cure cancer? Please, elaborate so we can understand this companies need of people who believe in God so that we may abide by your ruling with proper faith.

Becasue if people that think that the goverment is plotting to kill them are put in there then why the hell arent people who think that a everlasting almights who the hell knows what rules everything in the univers and makes everything thin happen......................

My guess is the paranoid people would be suspicious of the religious people and war could occur. If this is what you wish why do you not will it to be so?

bottom line THERE IS NO ****ING GOD! ANY ONE WHO BELIEVES IN GOD OR ANYTHING ALONG THAT LINE PLEASE GO KILL YOURSELF!!!!

I...I thought you said you are God? Aha! How clever you are oh lord! To prove your existence would be to deny faith! I see your ruse and again I commend you!

As to your late addition to end of your noble words I have but two to comment on.

...there is no what gose around comes around.

I believe there was a typo here and I shall make the correction for you to keep you from troubling yourself. As you can see the word "gose" appears here and is an obvious typo, he clearly meant to type "goose." As we all know...the goose does not come around, I believe this is a referance to the stork, therefor inspiring us to question our very roots! The very method of which we have been created! Oh how you inspire us oh Lord!

...and makes everyhting fare.

I now see why there is a need for currency. As you have just stated it is your will that we bargain and work at bettering our lives so that we me please you! With this new knowledge I shall set forth into the world to make my fortune in your name!

The rest of the final comment I feel was meant for you all to question yourselves and think hard upon. I shall not comment on those which I feel should be left to your heart to decide.

*End sarcastic jackass mode*

Now please, go get educated before you comment again.

[Bloodangel26]

spoon....lmfao...that was one of the best posts i have ever read....thank you.

[Venom]

that was just win ****ing win spoon

[SpoonMan999]

To those of you who think I hold spite toward you...know that while I do hate you all the above is an example of when someone truly brings on the wrath of Spoon.

[Aemaeth]

satanism? Don't make me laugh...wait...to late...Hahahahahaha. Read the Bible and come back. satanism is a joke, even the satanic Bible admits that there is a God. Nice try though.

Did i ever say it wasn't?
Religion is a joke alltogether and if your post was supposed to offend me it backfired. Come back when you don't have a stick up your ass.

[Crimson_Brilliance010]

What some people on blizzsector don't realize, such as people who just joined (I'll not name names...), is that when it comes debates such as this one and many others that can be found in the Steam Room, is that the users do not hate each other just because they have differant views and opinions.

now who the hell is THAT supposed to be refering to, zerokool... if you're talking 'bout me don't be scured, AND IF you are talking about me then I'll say this in defence

people are real we have emotions and feeling and some topics breech the comfort zones of some people, now if i'm wrong for caring about people, then that's on you but as long as I'm on this site I try my damnest to make sure damaging stupidity doesn't go unchecked (when I'm here anyway...)

[Z3R0]

[quote=DeathlyShadow]In my opinon every person that truely thinks there is a god, should be put in a mental inc.quote]

And I believe that someone who writes two pharagraphs with as many gramatical and spelling errors such as you have, should be placed back in high school or held there for quite a while.

Oh, and props to spoonman.

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Did i ever say it wasn't?
Religion is a joke alltogether and if your post was supposed to offend me it backfired. Come back when you don't have a stick up your ass.

No, it wasn't meant to offend and no it had no effect on me when it supposedly "backfired". You're not offended, maybe you're angry, anyway you're giving me just what I want, a response. It doesn't matter whether or not it was offensive, it affected you; it made you respond, albeit it foolishly.

[Xx~WEEd~xX]

no mattyer how much u think religion sucks it keeps order in society by creating a fear in ppl. if ppl are afraid of the after life they might not do stuff they realy want to do...... i do however feel the church ppl are all scamin prixs my nona and some other pppl fundraised for the church to buy a new fountine the church took the money and got the fountian donated !!!! they never gave the money back either!!!! bastereds they stole like 30 grand

[Z3R0]

And suppose that the money went toward the needy. Just suppose, I'm not saying that that church is perfect or that it is corrupt, but there are people in the world and most likley in that community that probaly need that money a lot more than you or the church.

[Venom]

just suppose that they keep the donation using olny a fraction of it for the needy and keeping the rest for themselfs, they get so much in donations that they could start buying countries muchless help the needy and passing on the word of god by saying that its thanks to god that you alive today

[Xx~WEEd~xX]

the church makes billions a year profit after they give to the needy....the true saints are ppl like mother teresa

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not only that did u no the pope has a huge summer house/castle out in the italian alps!!!!! all the ppl in the church are free to use it and not only that they have the 2 bigiest telescopes in the world there!!!! wtf do they care about space if god made everything?? y dop they need it? and y do they have a castle in the alps in the first place?? they could sell it and feed all of africa for a day..or provide numerous families with food for a yeasr but they keep it for their getaway vaction in the summer!!!! wtf is that all about

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not only that did u no the pope has a huge summer house/castle out in the italian alps!!!!! all the ppl in the church are free to use it and not only that they have the 2 bigiest telescopes in the world there!!!! wtf do they care about space if god made everything?? y dop they need it? and y do they have a castle in the alps in the first place?? they could sell it and feed all of africa for a day..or provide numerous families with food for a yeasr but they keep it for their getaway vaction in the summer!!!! wtf is that all about

[Z3R0]

just suppose that they keep the donation using olny a fraction of it for the needy and keeping the rest for themselfs, they get so much in donations that they could start buying countries muchless help the needy and passing on the word of god by saying that its thanks to god that you alive today

Just suppose...

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the church makes billions a year profit after they give to the needy....the true saints are ppl like mother teresa

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not only that did u no the pope has a huge summer house/castle out in the italian alps!!!!! all the ppl in the church are free to use it and not only that they have the 2 bigiest telescopes in the world there!!!! wtf do they care about space if god made everything?? y dop they need it? and y do they have a castle in the alps in the first place?? they could sell it and feed all of africa for a day..or provide numerous families with food for a yeasr but they keep it for their getaway vaction in the summer!!!! wtf is that all about

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not only that did u no the pope has a huge summer house/castle out in the italian alps!!!!! all the ppl in the church are free to use it and not only that they have the 2 bigiest telescopes in the world there!!!! wtf do they care about space if god made everything?? y dop they need it? and y do they have a castle in the alps in the first place?? they could sell it and feed all of africa for a day..or provide numerous families with food for a yeasr but they keep it for their getaway vaction in the summer!!!! wtf is that all about

The pope is pridfull with a lot of power, a bad combination.

[Xx~WEEd~xX]

he has ppl brain wash and notice it worked out okay while ppl were un educated but as ppl got educated they became less attatced to religon! look at the past 60 years since ww2 up till and just alittle after ppl were uneducated and rare ppl were educated and lots off ppl belived in god now less ppl belive and even less than that actually go to church!! plus the church tells us that we r suposed to donate 10% of our yearly earnings to them !!! WTF do they need all this money for??? thats bettween 5-15 k per person at the church thats like 500,000 a year cuz they do like 10 masses every sunday and tyhats in each chruch there are like 5 in my city and i have less than 100,000 ppl!!!!!

[Xx Diablo xX]

I vote no, religion helps people find who they are, and help develop good virtues. Though i am atheist, i dont find anything wroung with religion.

PS: DeadthlyShadow, What is wroung with you????????? Whats next, Start defending hitler??????

[[Ghost]]

the church makes billions a year profit after they give to the needy....the true saints are ppl like mother teresa

Do you even know what EXACTLY Mother Teresa did?! Have you seen pictures of her "Home of the Dying"? It's horrbile, no painkillers, horrible living conditions, and almost no medical care. It was horrible, basicly all it did was provide shelter for you to die in.

Read this entire article if you have the time, or just the introduction and the first chapter if you don't have time http://www.meteorbooks.com/introduction.html

Let me quote the first chapter

Disastrous floods struck West Bengal once again a year later, in August 1996, this time crippling the northern districts particularly. Many of the suburbs of Calcutta were also submerged, bringing immense difficulties to the poor therein. Yet again, the Missionaries of Charity were utterly inactive. Yet again, relief work was brought to the victims by the organisations, primarily the Ramakrishna Mission and the Bharat Sevashram Sangha. A public appeal4 was issued by Ramakrishna Mission's Swami Nityananda asking for children orphaned by the floods to be referred to the centre's orphanage in Barrackpur (a Calcutta suburb).
Although she never lifted a finger during the 1995 or 1996 floods, in a fairly recent interview with Lucinda Vardey, Mother Teresa mentioned working flat-out during floods in Calcutta. Characteristically however, she did not provide any details about time and place: 'For instance, when a large area near Calcutta was flooded and washed away, 1200 families were left stranded with nothing. Sisters from Shishu Bhavan, and also brothers worked all night, taking them supplies and offering shelter.'5 This may well have been true on a single occasion, but this is definitely not the usual nature of the work of the Missionaries of Charity. The world however would assume, reading her interview, that Mother jumped in headlong in natural disasters in and around Calcutta.

If you can, watch Penn and Teller: Bullshit! Season 3 Episode 9. Alot of information there about Mother Teresa and even Ghandi. Learn the whole story before making judgement.

[Xx~WEEd~xX]

Do you even know what EXACTLY Mother Teresa did?! Have you seen pictures of her "Home of the Dying"? It's horrbile, no painkillers, horrible living conditions, and almost no medical care. It was horrible, basicly all it did was provide shelter for you to die in.

obviously i no who mother teresa is and what she stands for and by this statment it sounds like ure saying that she wasnt that great???? she was she gave up all her time in to go to calcutta in india and help poor ppl !!!!!!

I vote no, religion helps people find who they are, and help develop good virtues. Though i am atheist, i dont find anything wroung with religion

i am all for religion i am just saying the church is alittle curupt ( atleast some churches....2 many if u ask me)

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wat is pen and teller?

[Z3R0]

obviously i no who mother teresa is and what she stands for and by this statment it sounds like ure saying that she wasnt that great???? she was she gave up all her time in to go to calcutta in india and help poor ppl !!!!!!



i am all for religion i am just saying the church is alittle curupt ( atleast some churches....2 many if u ask me)

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wat is pen and teller?

Mother Teresa (you shouldn't be direspectfull and leave someones name in lowercase), provided comfort and hope to dying people who did not know what those things were.

And of course there are going to be corruption in churches, it has an extensive reach. Do you go to a Catholic church? What kind of church do you go to?

Penn and Teller are two very famous illusionist who often get involved in political and economical affairs by their shows, such as [Ghost] pointed out.