Kerry Belittles Us Troops

[Fuggle]

Wow, that was like straight from Wikipedia with a sentence or two of your own voice, good job Mr. Copy and Paste.

[The Mob]

As for Kerry, he did apologize like an hour or 2 ago, but his statement, whether true or not, is Political Suicide.
And on the lines of Abortion, while you may say it's "killing innocent lives", what better is that baby potentially growing up into poverty with a miserable existence, since statistics show that most Abortions occur in women who tend to be lest priveleged and living in poorer areas. Areas where protection or birthcontrol isn't as easy to obtain due to economic deficiencies. I'd much rather have your "innocent life" go before it has a chance to be born into a harsh world where it will grow up into just another statistic of Poverty.

On the grounds that it is poilitcal suicide, maybe, maybe not. At least this isnt another Mark Foley. That right there takes the cake.

I agree with you Fuggle on the abortion issue. Im sorry to say but I would much rather be dead than live in a place like that..

If i were to say this on my own, they would think that i am crazy. so, ill let wiki do it for me.. lol

[Fuggle]

Well either way, the Democratic party is pretty much like... Ok you may support us if you want now, just don't be seen with us anymore.
He lost all chances of winning the Democratic Primary I believe now, even though I doubt he would've won, hell the Hilldebeast probably has a better chance of being the primary than Kerry, although I believe Obama seems like the best choice for the democratic party, he seems like he knows whats going on. Btw, I see myself more of an independent, although I guess I lean more on the conservative side on a lot of issues.

[The Mob]

LOL at no reason to attack iraq.

there was and is no reason to attack iraq. they had NO WMD, they were secular, and they kept iran in check. oh, did i forget to mention that they had nothing to do with Osama? or Al Qaeda??

[xDBD]

you tell him to quit being an asshole? dude wtf are u talkin about, this is what u said. just because they join to get a free or reduced education doesnt make them stupid you insenstitive naeve jackass. just because ppl cant pay for school doesnt make them stupid. blood never said anything like that.

you wanna show me where I said those who join the army are stupid? how is getting a free education stupid? i did very poorly as far as grades go in high school, yet received federal aid on my test scores alone. i know for a fact i am not "stupid," although my high school transcripts may lead people to believe so.

stop putting words in my mouth you piece of shit. i have the utmost respect for people who will risk their lives for the common good of others. they're most definitely better than I am. even if I don't agree with what they fight for, the sheer humbility and modesty it requires to risk your own life for others is beyond description.

that said, I do think John Kerry worded what he wanted to say entirely wrong. what he presented, however, does seem accurate in a sense. people who do poorly in gradeschool, or even college for that matter, and later decide to receive education cannot afford it. therefore, they may join the armed services to receive reduced or free education. right now, with Bush's policies and the war situation we're in.. joining the armed forces will probably put you in the Middle East fighting the "war on terrorism," that Kerry so openly opposes.


my god, I wasn't even being sarcastic in this thread, yet here I am spooning my words to you.


and no, mike never, ever said he thought people didn't join for free education, but the way he came off implied that people didn't. yeah, implied is a big word... it pretty much means that, even though it's not directly stated, that's what he probably ment, sort of like how I implied to you that I thought those who joined the armed forces were "stupid," and uneducated.. even though that's about as far from my beliefs as anything.

[Bloodangel26]

errm, he mass murdered his own people? yes he kept iran in check, but he was a threat to the rest of the region. oh yea and the fact that WMDs were actually found, the liberal media just chose not to bring it up so they could stay on the bandwagon.

the fact that the people of bhagdad celebrated being invaded was enough of a reason for us to be there for me.

[The Mob]

yes he did have WMD during the Iran Iraq War, and also during the Kuwait war, but then after that, NADA. the cheif UN weapons inspector even said that there were no more WMD.
mass murdered his own troops.. ok SO WHAT? how is that a reason to go into war? that is there own problem. many other countries have done that.
oh and dont argue about humanitarian rights...what about BURMA? DARFUR? NK?

a threat to the rest of the region? yes he was. but as he was keeping Iran in check, Iran was also keeping Iraq in check.

[xDBD]

>and the fact that WMDs were actually found

can you show me some sources on this? and by WMD, do you mean nuclear or chemical weapons capable of widespread destruction? if so, would you mind informing me about them?

[Bloodangel26]

the article is posted in one of the other bush-bashing threads. i'm far too busy and lazy to find it.

[The Mob]

they were used in the Iran Iraq war. chemical weapons that is. but not nuclear
however, after the conflicts, like i said, they were gone

[xDBD]

they were used in the Iran Iraq war. chemical weapons that is. but not nuclear
however, after the conflicts, like i said, they were gone

that is what I was thinking, as well. if i'm wrong i'm open to suggestions. as stated twice before, this is a thread i'm not gonna play around in. i'm asking in the most serious and non-joking manner I can.

^just informing those who know me a little too well

[Bloodangel26]

pretty sure the ones in that article i am talking about were chemical also but i am not really sure. it was a while ago

[xDBD]

well post it

[The Mob]

your still viewing the thread? wow (no offense or anything)
and you want Blood to post it and not me right?
if thats the case, i dont think blood will post it

[Bloodangel26]

i would if i had the patience to go find it

[FeNiXSuNfIrE]

was FDR hated that much(honest question no sarcasism if it came out that way, i really wanted to know)? i don't think he was but i'm not sure.

his situation was a bit different, the only reason we went to war then was because we were attacked. the ppl loved him. quite like how bush was the highest rated president in the history of the US during his first term due to his response to 9/11. (btw im independant, so dont think im defending bush in everything i say)

He added: "If you don't you get stuck in Iraq."
Mr Kerry's office said he had intended to say: "You end up getting us stuck in a war in Iraq. Just ask President Bush."

This is what Kerry intended to say. The president is just blowing it up. This statement is nothing.

of coarse kerry's office will say that. he ****ed up, and it caused a "political firestorm", do u think they will not make up some excuse to cover it up? of coarse they will. this is the worst possible time for them to mess up, right b4 the midterm elections.

the president isnt blowing anything up, he is just saying what the people already felt. a girl posted that part of the speach on youtube and it had over 500,000 hits in less then a day. people are pissed, the president didnt do it.

[Pamela]

Just my opinion.Kerry commited suicide.I do not care what he back peddled and tried to say what he REALLY, meant he screwed up.If he wanted to attack the president it was a cheap shot and not well aimed.ALL HE DID WAS PISS OFF FAMILIES AND RELATIVES OF MEN AND WOMEN THAT HAVE DIED IN BATTLE. What a great leader THAT makes...your millitary already hates you and the public thinks you are an idiot.
Anyone that wants to follow an idiot raise your hand? Remember this boys and girls...the President is Commander In Chief of all of our Millitary forces. I for one do not want a leader that allienates the men and women that protect my country and influence world opinoins. I dunno...I guess I am just stupid that way.

[The Mob]

yes all of those are viable reasons... and sometimes words do speak louder than actions.. and Kerry may be dead, but at least he didnt send sexualy explicit emails to congressional pages

[Pamela]

Foley didn't critisize the military

what does sending emails have to do with this thread?

[The Mob]

im just saying that actions usually speak louder than words. this denouncing of troops is nothing compared to foley