Legalize it?

[Ragnarhox]

allegra included
the reason why is b/c the alcohol people arent contaminating the airspace around them. i was outside and there were people smoking. i moved away, but even after 100ft i could still smell them

Tobacco smoke, car exhaust and bad breath contaminate the air space also. Seriously, I was in my friends car, in the passenger seat, and I could smell his horrid breath (He doesn't believe he has bad breath).

PS- First and second example were serious; last was not.

[The Mob]

allegra ****s you up as well, or at least me. if your talking about drowsiness

[Pamela]

Well THIS thread really went derailed.IMO? People that want to smoke *** will whether it is legal or not.
This is a simple truth.They may save money in legalising it just to ease burdens on the jails.
Not to mention the cost of catching and prosecuting offenders.

[Metalhead Steve]

It would almost completely eliminate the drug cartels as it would bring down the use of hard drugs. It would certainly deal a heavy blow to them.

[Pamela]

The major problem in legalising it ? The politicians are more worried about pleasing special interest groups and getting re-elected.

[Mr Mellow]

Hmm...
I have been reading this topic on this for a while...
My take on legalize marijuna would be a very hard answer to pick...
Alot of things would happen if it was, alot of people will be getting payed off in the government and im sure pamela has/was thinking of this even though she was staying some what out of the topic.

The reply about holding an oz. of **** in california is a strait up ****ing lie..
Do you have any idea how much **** that is to be carring around "EVEN IF" you have your card to smoke it/grow it "what ever"
They will still hold you and contain you for some time, they will think you are a dealer and if they do find out that you, even infact you have the card or NOT your life as you know it will be royaly ****ed... Even though it's ****..

Yes I smoke it... and trust me it is not because o im going to do it cuz it is against the law... that is just dumb... and i don't get how people are against it and if you read anything they put up they put things up as if they do it and or think the sound of drugs or narcotics is cool to them... Like Mushroomhead and even going into locations like, one of the last posts on thread 5...
People and Kids are just dumb.. I mostly use it for depression/back. Yes it does let me get away from it all and not give a shit about anything...
I will admit that i do not feel/think as great as i did before i did it that day.
I do not do it every day. Its more weekend and i will take it out and do it "only a little" if my back is in dire need of it.
I do not have my card to do it how ever... But you can fix that by not holding anything over a 20 sack witch is about 15 bowls if you live in Oregon "The Green State" and i mean it... lol
But going back about legalize "it" Im about 60/40 on yes do it.
Cuz you never know how it will affect are country.
But it will not be going to legalize to Meth/Coke/Heroin. These drugs are more potent and reach much higher levels of the release of dopemine in the brain.
Alone meth reaches 1250 while sex reaches 150-200 and **** does 300.
Dopemine<releases feelings through the body (good ones) but get used up if used over and over by heavy drugs.
Going on to drinking... Not much known from me, but i don't like the taste. I only really like hard drinks. Not much beer for me.
Now to tabacco. Yeah i don't really like the taste nor smell, it is proven that tabacco is worse for you then *********. 1 joint ='s about 7 packs or smokes. I have herd this in my Health class in school and such.
I'am not going to put up any sites or places to find any info... If you want to just be like a noob and use Google... We all have to start some where...
Ragnarhox You are doing a good job. I will back you up on anything in this thred. You are making the most sense next to some other people. "not naming any names"

edit: Even if you do get cought with a little bit of **** lets say.. 3 bowls... You will have to pay a small fine and it will be taken from you.
Mostly depends on where you live and how old you are. Also if you are 1,000 feet from a school.

[Ragnarhox]

The reply about holding an oz. of **** in california is a strait up ****ing lie..
Do you have any idea how much **** that is to be carring around "EVEN IF" you have your card to smoke it/grow it "what ever"
They will still hold you and contain you for some time, they will think you are a dealer and if they do find out that you, even infact you have the card or NOT your life as you know it will be royaly ****ed... Even though it's ****..

Although It is not totally decriminalized in any state, some states/areas have brought the charges down to a slim nothing. I've heard multiple times that in Alaska it is legal to have up to an ounce in your house.

[Daddy_XL]

i think if they did legalize what is already here then they could tax it. help our budget out some. That would also free up jails from over crowding.

[Pamela]

Hmm...
I have been reading this topic on this for a while...
My take on legalize marijuna would be a very hard answer to pick...
Alot of things would happen if it was, alot of people will be getting payed off in the government and im sure pamela has/was thinking of this even though she was staying some what out of the topic.

I was staying out for a few reasons.The government will be involved in a money making way...I do not want this to be a political topic. We all know if it can the government will make money,while the people that are users of this substance will make money selling it illegally. It is a lose/lose situation.

The government is wanting the money...the dealers/growers are wanting the money...neither of these 2 groups gives a shit about you(at large)


People that use it WILL use it...I would rather see individuals make money than the government...
I pay too much in taxes already.

Why do I always get brought up in these anyway? I do NOT smoke...have never tried ****,and it is difficult for me to make an intelligent response to the topic at hand.


I prefer to let you guys to **** it out...I will ALWAYS tell you if I am stupid about a given topic.

**** I know absolutely ZILCH about!...Just being honest here.

[Aemaeth]

If they did make it legal what's to stop people growing it? All that would happen is the government would try and make money from it, and the users would probably just grow their own and not buy the stuff the government makes, Also to mention the fact that they could pump the stuff with other substances (look at ciggarettes)

[Ragnarhox]

Removing laws prohibiting ********* would not stop people from growing it. It would lower the congestion of our jails and court systems though.

You make a good point Plat. No matter what big business got a hold of ********* distribution it would probably be ****ed up. If big tobacco got a hold of it they would, most likely, fill it with all the poison of cigarettes to make it addicting. And if the drug companies got a hold of it they might try to mark up the price 2,000+++% like all the other drugs they sell.

[Pamela]

Damn Scott... I never thought of that....very good point indeed sir.

[bigdeath]

I dont think people would grow it. I mean look. Alcohol is legal and not many people make that.

[Ragnarhox]

I dont think people would grow it. I mean look. Alcohol is legal and not many people make that.

It seems, I do not know from experience, that it would be much easier to grow ********* than to make alcohol.

[bigdeath]

not necessarily. To attain a desirable potency you would have to have alot of expensive equipment and quite a bit of botanical knowledge. Alcohol doesn't require expensive equipment and anyone can do it.

[Ragnarhox]

**** doesn't require very expensive equipment, deepening on how it is grown. For alcohol you need a still and all that but I've never made homemade alcohol(or **** for that matter).
But I think either way we are getting a little off topic debating on which is easier to manufacture independently...lol.

[bigdeath]

**** is easy to grow but good **** isn't.But anyways, if you really think about it alcohol is worse than ****. How many people are killed by stoned drivers relative to drunk drivers. Also how many stoners do you know that get violent when they're high. And most of all..... IT'S A GOD DAMNED PLANT!!!!! I don't even smoke bud and I think its stupid alcohol, tobacco, coffee and a host of other substances are legal yet **** isn't.

[Pamela]

Well just for general information...my husband flies a rescue helicopter for trauma victims. The frequency of those drunken AND stoned is pretty high.

Many people mix the 2 and are way buzzed,but also incompacitated at the same time.

[Aemaeth]

not necessarily. To attain a desirable potency you would have to have alot of expensive equipment and quite a bit of botanical knowledge. Alcohol doesn't require expensive equipment and anyone can do it.

It doesn't actualy.
You can start growing stuff for a few hundred dollars, and if you smoke the stuff in the first place the cost of growing is pittance to what you would spend on dealers. The yield you get from one plant can be massive and it doesn't require massive knoweldge or expsensive equipment, hydroponics is easier than most people think. A few of my friends grow. And as for the strength, It's how you look after it yes, but most of the time it's down to strain. Of course growing it requires care, and most people **** up, But most people who grow now only think of what they get afterwards, so they get careless and dry the plant well before it is mature out of anticipation.

Well just for general information...my husband flies a rescue helicopter for trauma victims. The frequency of those drunken AND stoned is pretty high.

Many people mix the 2 and are way buzzed,but also incompacitated at the same time.

lol, mixing the 2 is like second nature to me, They must of done a lot to be like that.

[Mordant]

I thought that making alcohol was illegal in atleast a few states. Or maybe that was back during the prohibition era. Either way, I am pretty sure making your own moonshine is illegal. It's also a lot stronger than your regular alcohol, though... but I am not sure about anything else.

I agree with everyone, to an extent. Legalizing certain things would have negative and positive effects on everything else. Taxes and the price of gas are outrageous right now, in Missouri, and they haven't been doing much of anything about trying to get anything accomplished here.

Just my two cents, for what it's worth.