Im Christian, why arent you?

**SpoonMan999** · 12-17-2008, 07:31 AM

What makes them your enemy? It's the fact that you view them as such that makes them so. As a group they have nothing against your faith it's you that has the problem.

**Mathalamus** · 12-17-2008, 08:19 AM

no no not those people, people who has treated me badly in the past and we both pratically hate eachother, those are the enemies im taking about.

**Nethran** · 12-17-2008, 08:22 AM

It's good to love your enemy. It makes it harder for them to dislike you and leads to less hatred. I understand how it's hard to try to love someone you're used to hating, not everyone can do it(most people probably can't, including myself a lot of the time), but that's what makes us imperfect. If it were possible to be perfect, we wouldn't have need of laws or religeon.

**wazzacky** · 12-17-2008, 01:05 PM

*gasp* *over lingering enlightenment* i agree with nethran completly again. One thing that i have never understood is how people never really question what they learn. If someone is taught from a very fanatic catholic (just an example) that gays are wrong. They don't question it? They don't question how it makes discrepencies with the practises of the religion?

**Mathalamus** · 12-17-2008, 01:25 PM

they cant question the bible or they get sent to hell. unlike them i can question it. im going to hell anyways because of my past.

**Nethran** · 12-17-2008, 02:23 PM

Shuuut uuuuppp. You're only going to Hell if you're unrepentant. Furthermore, you're allowed to question whatever you want. Moses, Noah, Abraham, and even Jesus himself had questions. God didn't reign fire and brimstone down on them. As long as you don't question things like... "Is Jesus really the son of God?" and not find an answer. That, for a Christian, would be bad. Everyone has doubts. Find ways to overcome them, or, if you can't, do your best to be a good person and hope for the best, I guess.

**Siris** · 12-18-2008, 08:30 PM

Originally Posted by Nethran

Furthermore, you're allowed to question whatever you want. Moses, Noah, Abraham, and even Jesus himself had questions. God didn't reign fire and brimstone down on them.

Tell that to Job. When he asked god why he was allowing satan to do all those horrible things, God basicly said who the f*ck are you to question me. After Job submitted to God Alimghty, only then was he restored.

**Nethran** · 12-19-2008, 04:57 AM

Well if God talks to you personally and tells you to do something, I dun think most people will ask too many questions.

**Determinado** · 12-22-2008, 08:15 PM

Originally Posted by Nethran

Shuuut uuuuppp. You're only going to Hell if you're unrepentant. Furthermore, you're allowed to question whatever you want. Moses, Noah, Abraham, and even Jesus himself had questions. God didn't reign fire and brimstone down on them. As long as you don't question things like... "Is Jesus really the son of God?" and not find an answer. That, for a Christian, would be bad. Everyone has doubts. Find ways to overcome them, or, if you can't, do your best to be a good person and hope for the best, I guess.

Err no Christian could find an answer to 'Is Jesus really the son of God'. Not in any way. All they can say is "Err if this and that.. well then I guess so"

You seem to forget we're talking about a 2000 year old story here, written by human beings about another person and things that happened to him and things he did. Ever thought about Jesus actually not being the son of God? And all of you guys going all crazy about someone that has nothing to do with God at all?

If you don't question your religion, and have interest in other religions, well in that case you're just being a lazy believer, not practicing religion at all. Ignoring other religions is choosing the lazy easy way and then an atheist could be much more religious than those lazy Christians or Muslims believing blindly what is told to them as right.

**Siris** · 12-22-2008, 10:39 PM

Sounds like you're Muslim. In fact the only real diference between islam and christianity is christians say jesus was the son of god and was crusified. Muslims believe jesus was another prophet like all other god's prophet and that he did not get crucified and that he never died. He was ascended to heaven.

**Mathalamus** · 12-23-2008, 12:15 AM

that and islams holy book looks just just another heavly editied bible.

**Warslut** · 12-23-2008, 06:00 AM

The biggest reason I'm not Christian is because of the people who push it so hard and run their lives so blindly to believe that God does everything and and causes everything. I know for a fact it says somewheres in the Bible not to force or bring on trying to convert people. For instance people who go door to door technically are going against the Bible, apparently God doesn't like the idea of Churches to a point. I also hate how some shun anyone of a different religion like we're evil or something is wrong and they can't come near. Everytime you bring up a point you can PROVE , nope it's God's doing. Adam and Eve were the only two? Why aren't we all inbred? If you believe in ghosts it's easy to believe in the afterlife obviously. You can kill and kill but if you repent you'll go into Heaven? I believe in some sort of God, but I believe that no matter what religion, if there is a Heaven of any sort, you'll go as long as you lead a good healthy life. My brother it's quite the anti-christ, but he's a damn good guy. I don't see why he would go to Hell and a serial murdered would get into Heaven for repenting. It's so flawed and seems so unfair.

**Nethran** · 12-23-2008, 07:20 AM

Determinado, you can find the answer to whether Jesus is the son of God. It's in the Bible. And if you don't believe the Bible because it's a bunch of old stories, well, then you're not really Christian. You have to have faith that it's all true. If your best try at believing is saying "I guess so," then you're boned if you believe in Hell. Because that's where you'd be going.

It's not an easy thing to go on blind faith, but that's what God asks. If it were easy, there wouldn't be Atheists and Agnostics, and just about everyone would be of the same religeon.

**Mathalamus** · 12-23-2008, 10:57 AM

well i dont try to convert people forcefully. i dont have the will to do it, and you are only going to hell if you dont repent (religion apparently dosnt matter), and plus God chooses by personality and actions so this serieal killer wouldent go to heaven if he repented. all the good guys who beive in God at any level goes to heaven

**wazzacky** · 12-23-2008, 02:49 PM

Originally Posted by Mathalamus

that and islams holy book looks just just another heavly editied bible.

really? as i recall there's only one koran with several sects that differentiate on strengths of beliefs (forgive me if my information is flawed).

Theres like 30192380192830128 different versions of bible telling u what and what not to do.

**Siris** · 12-23-2008, 02:53 PM

It also says in the bible that the disciples ran away in fear when jesus was crucified. Then it turns around and says that when they each wrote there acound of what happened they were an eyewitness. How is that possible if they ran away?? It also sugguests in the bible that Jesus may have never been crucified but that another took his place. It is also written in the bible that there would be another prophet after jesus that would spread the truth. All the clues in the bible fit muhammad and the qur'an.

**Mathalamus** · 12-23-2008, 03:02 PM

it took arabs seven centries to translate and edit the bible. just sad...

**Siris** · 12-23-2008, 03:07 PM

Originally Posted by War****

I know for a fact it says somewheres in the Bible not to force or bring on trying to convert people.

I have never read that and to the contrary you are supposed to share knowledge of god.

Originally Posted by War****

You can kill and kill but if you repent you'll go into Heaven?

You will be saved once you have faith. And once you have faith in god you will become truly repenant for or actions. Only then will you be saved.

Originally Posted by Nathren

It's not an easy thing to go on blind faith, but that's what God asks.

Not true at all. He wants you to be knowledgable about His teaches. If you are not you may be mislead by satan and his workings.
[Mathalamus=]well i dont try to convert people forcefully. i dont have the will to do it, and you are only going to hell if you dont repent (religion apparently dosnt matter), and plus God chooses by personality and actions so this serieal killer wouldent go to heaven if he repented. all the good guys who beive in God at any level goes to heaven[/quote]
Does it ever get old for you when you add random replies???

Originally Posted by wazzacky

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Originally Posted by Mathalamus

that and islams holy book looks just just another heavly editied bible.

really? as i recall there's only one koran with several sects that differentiate on strengths of beliefs (forgive me if my information is flawed).

Theres like 30192380192830128 different versions of bible telling u what and what not to do.

Not far from the true. The Qur'an has never been altered. In fact, The purpose of the Qur'an is to explain and spread the truth of god word's that have been corrupted by changes in the bible. The Qur'an never changes God's word only explains muslims study the Bible as well as the qur'an.

Originally Posted by Mathalamus

it took arabs seven centries to translate and edit the bible. just sad...

Where ar you pulling your twisted facts from?? Out your ass?