Loose Change - The Truth About 9\11

[wm_hunter]

[FONT=&quot]Don't get me wrong, I am not big on conspiracy theories. But please, do your self a favor and watch this video. It blew me away...

Link Here (Google Video)

Comments welcome.[/FONT]

[Phallock]

I didn't have time to watch the whole thing but if what is being proposed is true, where did the other planes go? I will have to watch this when I have a few hours to kill

[wm_hunter]

Watch the whole thing, it deals with almost everything

[Phallock]

ty, I will

[Fuggle]

Nub already posted this 6 months ago. Just another lame-ass conspiracy theory. Look on the right there, Link between Bush and JFK assassination. That tells you enough about the quality of these theories.

[Bartender]

Doesn't look too real, blurry cameras etc.

[fleaflickerx]

i snell bull shit, do you?

[wm_hunter]

There is just too much conflicting evidence. I don't usually buy these things, but have any of you watched the whole thing, or just looked at thirty seconds and called it bull?

[SpoonMan999]

I've seen this and many others just like it...try e-mailing some of the creators or the site's host and you'll notice something about them, like they're completely out of their minds.

[mikea454]

I dont subsribe to much in the way of conspiracy theories, its usually someone 'looking' for connections not really there. These images are way to blurry to draw any real conclusions. Im sure there are little details the government left out, but no giant 'cover-up'. Ive seen some people trying to claim the attacks were perpetrated by the US which is just ridiculous.

(Things like the terrorist rental car found with a copy of the Koran and flying manual. Make the case look more closed to prevent panic... perhaps)

[project_s8an]

There is just too much conflicting evidence. I don't usually buy these things, but have any of you watched the whole thing, or just looked at thirty seconds and called it bull?

its pretty easy to watch 30 seconds and call it bull
i mean one of the most important things they talk about at the beginning is that everyone just happened to notice that it didnt look like a normal plane, now bear with me for just a second ask yourself this.... how ****ing fast do planes fly??? i dont know about you but if i saw a plane flying into a building
A. i wouldnt be able to say "hey that doesnt look like a normal plane" from that far down when its moving that fast
and B. i wouldnt really give a **** because its crashing into a ****ing building!!!
and lastly people who bring anything up about conspriricy theories are just people who are either bored or just want to complain about something that they dont think is right in the world. and lets say that by the small ass chance that i think this is true..... so what?
plus they have recorded phone calls from the people on the planes they were on goodmorning america this morning they had a captains wife explaining when he called her to say that he wasnt going to be home again.

[wm_hunter]

Just a couple points for those that watched 30 seconds of it and thought it was bull...

1. A large scientific research group studied the odds of a cell phone conversation reaching the ground at the speed and altitude the hijacked plane was traveling at (cruising speed), they found the odds to be 0.005%, yet there are 12 recorded conversations to the ground?

2. Of the handful of people the United States claimed where the hihackers, six of them are still alive and well.

3. In the video the US claimed that Osama admitted to 9\11:

- He was wearing gold, which is completely forbidden in the Islamic religion

- When compared to all other pictures available of Osama, some of which very recent to 9\11, he looks completely different/

4. At the pentagon and WTC, there were metals melted that have a melting point temperature far higher then the temperature a fuel lodge could have on a 747.

5. Many other inconstancies.

I don't think he is trying to make connections where connections are not, everything he said he has "proved" almost beyond a shadow of doubt.

I am not the kind of person that believes every conspiracy-theory he sees, but this one just blew me away.



I don't mind the comments of the people that think its bull, but don't post if you only watched about thirty seconds. You would give a movie longer, give this one longer too.

[yes.interesting]

well, I watched all of it. And it's bullshit. When you say "there's too much conflicting evidence," you have to check the credibility of the "anti" evidence.

[SpoonMan999]

1. If you're about to die and want to speak with your family again you're going to just try once and say, "Aww shit no signal...oh well." Dunno about you but I'd hit redial every moment that I wasn't connected.

2. Yeah well there were people who planned and helped them that didn't get on the plains...and if you're talking about the people who were indentified as the people on the planes then you know sometimes more than one person has the same name. And if it were a government conspiracy you can bet they'd be better at hiding the info...

3. You know, because no other color on earth looks like gold at all. And if they really had nothing to do with it then why was there a member of Al Queda that just recently admitted, proudly, that he was considered to be one of the pilots on the 9/11 attack but didn't make the final cut.

4. I do admit it's possible for them to have snuck some explosives in through baggage so maybe those exploded from laying jet fuel?

And so he claims he's proved all of these? Well he says it so he can't be lying! Or be completely out of his damned mind! Not a chance cause he has a video on the internet!

Additional Comment:
Oh yeah and gold is forbidden in the Islamic faith? WELL SO IS KILLING, something wrong with that man's idea of his religion eh?

[hellsing293]

well i watched about 6mins of it. sry i coulndn't watch a whole hour lol. but yeah, interesting about the whole explosives thing before impact. some of it's true i guess, but some is bs too.

[Irrelevant]

Bush is full of shit.

[SpoonMan999]

Thank you for that vital information... I'm glad everyone can add something useful to the conversation.

[Snipz]

I think this topic is like a month old and I sat threw the whole hour it was very intresting.

[wm_hunter]

1. If you're about to die and want to speak with your family again you're going to just try once and say, "Aww shit no signal...oh well." Dunno about you but I'd hit redial every moment that I wasn't connected.

2. Yeah well there were people who planned and helped them that didn't get on the plains...and if you're talking about the people who were indentified as the people on the planes then you know sometimes more than one person has the same name. And if it were a government conspiracy you can bet they'd be better at hiding the info...

3. You know, because no other color on earth looks like gold at all. And if they really had nothing to do with it then why was there a member of Al Queda that just recently admitted, proudly, that he was considered to be one of the pilots on the 9/11 attack but didn't make the final cut.

4. I do admit it's possible for them to have snuck some explosives in through baggage so maybe those exploded from laying jet fuel?

And so he claims he's proved all of these? Well he says it so he can't be lying! Or be completely out of his damned mind! Not a chance cause he has a video on the internet!

Additional Comment:
Oh yeah and gold is forbidden in the Islamic faith? WELL SO IS KILLING, something wrong with that man's idea of his religion eh?

1. Do you know math? No shit they are going to hit the redial, but the odds are 0.005%, do you have any idea how low a chance that is? Not even counting keeping the connection, they had about a dozen recorded calls from cell phones? Come on.

2. I am talking about the people that the United States said where the ones that hijacked the planes and crashed them.

3. Look at the video. When he compares it to photos of Osama, some from only a few weeks ago, I want you to tell me they are the same person. Another fact of the video, Osama is left handed, yet he was drinking and signing documents with his right hand.

4. There were metals melted that need to be heated a lot higher then jet fuel can heat to melt. There was also a 2 magnitude earthquake recorded, a buildings collapse will not cause any signifigant ground shaking at all, but explosions will.

I'm not saying its not all true, I'm just saying its hard to not think it is (not counting simply denial that they would ever do such a thing to there own people, just looking at the evidence)

[SpoonMan999]

Looking at the evidence that you were spoon fed by conspiracy theorist nut jobs. Do you really need any more reason to doubt them than that?

1. You find one that works and everyone else uses the same phone. It's not brain surgery man.

2. Got some proof there? Or did these bozos just say it and you're following along like the lap dog they want you to be? Do you have photos of the hijackers with their names and addresses? You even consider that sometimes a person isn't the only one on the planet with their name?

3. If he was framed for it then why not release more videos to the press denying it? Why just sit back and be blamed for the biggest act of terrorism since Pearl Harbor?

4. Despite the science they have backing it up that those metals shouldn't have melted where's the concrete evidence that they were in fact those metals? I don't care if they have pictures or some shit because when was the last time you could look a blurry photo and tell me if something were titanium or aluminum?

It's hard to think it's false when you're not being told what's true and you're hearing just their story with their "facts." It's the same thing Michael Moore does only he uses a bigger screen.