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nah, the MF thing is true, a merc's MF is added to yours if he makes final hit.
but with the act 3 mercenairies, i cant figure out how the **** they are gonna make the last kill, those guys deliver such poor damage, and cant kill shit. i would say an act 2 mercenairy with defiance aura or offensive aura, who has ethreal tomb reaver with maximum sockets (3 i think?) and those sockets have ist runes in them, he should also wear atmas wail wich has 50 MF and put a topaz / ist rune in it tog het more MF. i guess arcy would be good too. his headgear can be pretty much anything, vampire gaze makes him survive, but if you dont have trouble making him survive, i would say use an Stealskull (unique Casque) and put topaz/ist in it then it gets 74 MF i think. good luck m8s
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what kind of stuff you have found with 1486 MF
btw a good guide for MF sorc
i wonder how the act2 merc done the last kill
lol
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what kind of merc would u guys suggest to mf with? one that can hit good so that it can actually get the last hit.
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act 2 one but may not got highest mf
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KeeSe Wrote:nah, the MF thing is true, a merc's MF is added to yours if he makes final hit.
but with the act 3 mercenairies, i cant figure out how the **** they are gonna make the last kill, those guys deliver such poor damage, and cant kill shit. i would say an act 2 mercenairy with defiance aura or offensive aura, who has ethreal tomb reaver with maximum sockets (3 i think?) and those sockets have ist runes in them, he should also wear atmas wail wich has 50 MF and put a topaz / ist rune in it tog het more MF. i guess arcy would be good too. his headgear can be pretty much anything, vampire gaze makes him survive, but if you dont have trouble making him survive, i would say use an Stealskull (unique Casque) and put topaz/ist in it then it gets 74 MF i think. good luck m8s
You only need the mercenary to kill mephisto ... and if you upgrade the Blade of Ali Baba once and have a high lvl. mercenary ... he will be able to kill mephisto!
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Ok, but I what I think he is getting at is that the Act 3 mercenary has magic..which Mephisto has resistances to this stuff. A sorceress doing 5k with a fireball, for example, can't kill him in under 20 shots. What makes you actaully think an Act 3 merc doing about 500 can. What I forgot to mention is that, the AI act different, right? Well, They use magic until they run out.. (I am guessing), so they hardly ever run up in melee combat, I've only seen mine hit a monster once, but he was shooting the entire time, until he came up and SMACK, then he started shooting again. I hope this helps someone or something, to clarify something up...
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Ok you guys got it all wrong. Your mercenary mf is not added to your mf when he kills a monster. If your merc kills a monster and he has 100 mf, and you have 300, the mf will still be 100. It does not add to your mf. That is just a rumor like the rumor that started (and died) stating that if you mf in a party, your mf is all together. None of this is true. The only true thing is that whoever delivers the final blow to a monster, then the total mf from that one character is used, not everyones. Same goes for merc.
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not to get off subject, but i think that blizz sorcs are a lot better than f orb sorcs..now, now, dont get me wrong i think f orb sorcs r awesome for cows, and rushing but when it comes to killin big time bosses in hell blizz, is ur Main move..that is my opinion >_>
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i cant make mf charas:/ all i cna do is about 200 mf
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BLAST! i was almost positive there was something on bnet about the mf, but the hireling section doesn't even mention it... maybe get the personal email of a blizz tech, becuase their q/a is automated so it sux nuts...
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If I'm not mistaken the merc MF does incorporate with your own if he makes the kill.....I've read it a thousand different places....
Iguess I could be wrong....but has Blizz said anythin officially?
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i dun think merc will help, alot of ppl try it, but dun seem work...
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I read it on official sites before... but with every official site it's hard as hell to find the info you were just looking at!!! But believe me, I have read many times before that if you have mf and your merc has mf, whoever delivers the FINAL blow (as in hit that kills the monster) then that persons mf will be used.
The only factor that changes your item drop outcome is the amount of people in a game. As almost all of you know, the more people in a game, the harder the monsters are. So boss levels raise a little bit with more people, thusly increasing your chances of higher level items with good mf.
So it comes down to this: MF is not added between party members or mercenaries. It is whoever delivers the final blow.
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Yeah that does sound right now that i think about it.
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now if you look, the first column shows your MF... at 1000% mf, your unique find is 295%
you raise your MF by 200% and guess what... your unique find goes up a smashing 10%
now...how much good is that extra 1% from ist in shako and armor?
Magic FindMagical [size=2]*[/size]Rares [size=2]*[/size]Set Items [size=2]*[/size]Uniques *
100% 100% 100% 100% 100%
150% 150% 146% 145% 141%
200% 200% 185% 183% 171%
250% 250% 220% 215% 193%
300% 300% 250% 242% 211%
400% 400% 300% 287% 236%
500% 500% 340% 322% 253%
750% 750% 412% 382% 280%
1000%1000% 460% 421% 295%
1200%1200% 494% 448% 305%
1500%1500% 520% 468% 312%
as you see, with your magic find going up, your unique increase amount diminishes...
and as you will find with super high mf... your BLUE (MAGIC) find will far overbear your unique find...thus you drop alot more blue and end up doing alot of runs in return... now lets look at 600% mf... 600% will yeald approximately 3 - 1 getting blue drops versus getting uniques..>*(keep in mind that the uniques can be from 4%manald ring to tyraels...
now take the MF hungry guy that puts all this into mf... and manages to gain that 1500mf lvl (prolly have to be hacked for that high) ... he will have a 5-1 blue drop% vs the 3-1 blue drop at 600% mf, now comparing the two you automatically think well 600% will have better chance at dropping such as a unique sacred armor, however there is another aspect not covered in this chart. The higher your mf gets, the higher chance to drop an elite item. there for your higher mf will drop more elite class weapons/armor ect, however alot of them will end up being such as sacred armor of self repair or such... at 600mf.. chances of finding sacred armor is lower...but when you do, there is more chance it will be unique instead of magic... so in turn they both will even themselves out... and over all...the higher the mf you can safely and quickly run with... the better off you are, however a 2-3% mf difference at 1000mf will not make enough difference even to be seen by a computer.
this is info i pulled up from diabloii.net, it seems to almost fall inline as i do notice the higher my mf gets... the more blue i see falling all over... and I also see an increase in elite class drop's. but i agree, i like mf to be about 600 range..thats when it seems i find the best stuff and still able to kill fast and have some decent resists to go with it.
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Creaver is absolutely right there, but most people won't understand it.
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had to fix that lol
table got screwed up
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creaver_l Wrote:now if you look, the first column shows your MF... at 1000% mf, your unique find is 295%
you raise your MF by 200% and guess what... your unique find goes up a smashing 10%
now...how much good is that extra 1% from ist in shako and armor?
Magic FindMagical [size=2]*[/size]Rares [size=2]*[/size]Set Items [size=2]*[/size]Uniques *
100% 100% 100% 100% 100%
150% 150% 146% 145% 141%
200% 200% 185% 183% 171%
250% 250% 220% 215% 193%
300% 300% 250% 242% 211%
400% 400% 300% 287% 236%
500% 500% 340% 322% 253%
750% 750% 412% 382% 280%
1000%1000% 460% 421% 295%
1200%1200% 494% 448% 305%
1500%1500% 520% 468% 312%
as you see, with your magic find going up, your unique increase amount diminishes...
and as you will find with super high mf... your BLUE (MAGIC) find will far overbear your unique find...thus you drop alot more blue and end up doing alot of runs in return... now lets look at 600% mf... 600% will yeald approximately 3 - 1 getting blue drops versus getting uniques..>*(keep in mind that the uniques can be from 4%manald ring to tyraels...
now take the MF hungry guy that puts all this into mf... and manages to gain that 1500mf lvl (prolly have to be hacked for that high) ... he will have a 5-1 blue drop% vs the 3-1 blue drop at 600% mf, now comparing the two you automatically think well 600% will have better chance at dropping such as a unique sacred armor, however there is another aspect not covered in this chart. The higher your mf gets, the higher chance to drop an elite item. there for your higher mf will drop more elite class weapons/armor ect, however alot of them will end up being such as sacred armor of self repair or such... at 600mf.. chances of finding sacred armor is lower...but when you do, there is more chance it will be unique instead of magic... so in turn they both will even themselves out... and over all...the higher the mf you can safely and quickly run with... the better off you are, however a 2-3% mf difference at 1000mf will not make enough difference even to be seen by a computer.
this is info i pulled up from diabloii.net, it seems to almost fall inline as i do notice the higher my mf gets... the more blue i see falling all over... and I also see an increase in elite class drop's. but i agree, i like mf to be about 600 range..thats when it seems i find the best stuff and still able to kill fast and have some decent resists to go with it.
I dont agree with the part where you say that you can only achive 1500 mf with a Hero Editor ... I have 1200 mf on b.net ladder closed and all i need is a 4 socket shield with 4x Ist Runes and a few more charms to get 1500 mf!!! The only reason I ever die is because of lag. 
My lowest resist is Poison and it is 20!!! ^_^
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creaver is right. its listed on the arreat summit. i have seen it and like he said its also listed on diabloii.net.more mf isnt better. it only is up to a point.
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