Pvp hammerdin

[Forseti_Boi]

Powerdin 75% FCR

Helm: Shako /w Ber If vs. Melee and Physical oponents, or Um (vs. elemental oponents.)

Armor: Enigma BP

Shield: HOZ /w Shael rune vs. things you can block, Um or Ber vs. casters and smiters (respectivly)

Weapon: HOTO Flail (Eth if possible) (If you can, the best weapon is a +2Pally Magic/Rare scepter with FCR and +BH and +Conc, See Attachment for example.)

Gloves: Magefists

Belt: Arach

Boots: 06 Stat or Etreks

Ammy: Maras

Ring1: Soj

Ring2: Soj

Switch: HS CTA (Or CTA)/Spirit

Charms:
Anni, Torch, 9x Pcombat(lifers are best) and 10x life and/or life/mana sc's

Stats:
Str-Gear
Dex-Max Block /w HS or Gear
Vita-Rest
Energy-You probaly wont need to, but save some points in case you do (after testing/doing a few duels.)

Skills:
1 Smite
1 Holy Bolt
20 Blessed Hammer
1 Charge
1 HS
1 Might
20 Blessed Aim
20 Concentrate
1 Prayer
1 Deffiance
1 Cleansing
20 Vigor
1 Salvation (personal prefference)
1 Meditation (Personal prefference)
Remaning skill points in Resist Fire/Light/Cold (each SLVL adds +1 max res per that respective resists) or HS.
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Fastcastdin (125FCR)

Helm: +2Pally Skills /w 20FCR, rare is better, with +life, str, dex, mana, energy, resist mods. Socketed either with Ber vs. phys, or Um vs. ele

Armor: Enigma BP

Shield: HOZ /w Shael rune vs. things you can block, Um or Ber vs. casters and smiters (respectivly)

Weapon: HOTO Flail (eth is sexy.)

Gloves: Magefists

Belt: Arach

Boots: 06 stat or Etreks

Ammy: +2 Palladin /w FCR (10-20), if rare, str, dex, life, mana, resist mods are good. +2Pally magic /w FCR or +3pcombat with fcr

Ring1: 10FCR Ring /w good stats (mana/str/life/dex etc..)

Ring2: If amulet is 15+FCR, you can use a Soj, otherwise another FCR Ring is requirerd. (sp?)

Option 2: Use Spirit Shield and 2x Sojs

Switch: same as above

Charms: Same as above


Stats: Same above

Skills: same as above
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Poor Mans Hammerdin (Picker)

Items listed from most expensive to least expensive (and best to worst)

Helm:
1. Shako
2. Peasent Crown
3. Tarn Helm

Armor:
1. Skullders
2. Viper
3. non-eth I am god of the seay +2valor

Shield:
1. HOZ
2. Lidless Wall
3. Splendor
1B. (if ladder, itz ez to make a spirit)

Weapon:
1. Spirit (if on ladder, cheap to make.)
2. Suicide Branch
3. Spectral Shard

Ammulet:
1. Maras (I am god of the seay maras are cheap)
2. magic with +pally skills or pcombat or even offensive aura
3. Telling of Beads
4. Eye of the Etlich

Ring1:
1. SOJ
2. Mandal
3. Anything!

Ring2: See above

Switch:... try to get a cta.... or a MF weapon I guess and a shield (i duno ,your the poor bastard!)

Charns:
I guess the best you can get

Forseti_Boi evilgrin:

[Bartender]

Spirit > Hoz, 12k is enough damage so **** that powerdin, and using a circlet, fcr rings, and 2 pally 10 fcr ammy takes away about 500 life from your bo. I lol'd when you even thought about putting a single point into energy. I'm sorry to say, you're builds fail, stick to mf.

[kylvam]

No energy at all. and most important MAX holy shield!!! This is a matter of opinion but you need holy shield for pvp i believe. Hammers are hammers you can get by them with minimal effort but how the hell will you hit a Paladin with Holy Shield? also i think that if you want to mf referring to Bartenders post you should make a sorc. Paladins are very powerful duelers but without the right skills and stated you will get beat down like wet clay. But nice start just need some tweaking.

[Energy]

For helm you can get 1.08 valk like I had =3

[Bartender]

No energy at all. and most important MAX holy shield!!! This is a matter of opinion but you need holy shield for pvp i believe. Hammers are hammers you can get by them with minimal effort but how the hell will you hit a Paladin with Holy Shield? also i think that if you want to mf referring to Bartenders post you should make a sorc. Paladins are very powerful duelers but without the right skills and stated you will get beat down like wet clay. But nice start just need some tweaking.

Max holy shield gives you 2-3% more block, that means 6 points into vitality, which is 18 life, about 25 with bo. Max holy shield IS NOT worth it. Get 1 point into holy shield, 10 points into light and cold res each for +5% max res

[kylvam]

I think that with some good gear and some nice charms he will have max res anyway so why does he need to put any into a skill that is nonpassive when he could have holy shield. if he is dueling a soc then his res wont matter because of cold/fire/lightning mastery.

[- Stu -]

This build is more PVM than Pvp for PVP i use no skillers all 20 life scs, and pally spirit with 80+ res on all (yes spirit adds 40) and the paladin sheild can also add 40 res spirit hoto make up for damage and fcr, then i'd use Trang oul' gloves instead of wizzys

[Forseti_Boi]

wow have any of you actually played closed? the stupidity of the people that replied in this is amazing Bartender if you pulled your head out of your butt then you would see that i said YOU CAN IF YOU WANT TO the - 500 life from bo wont matter when your 1-3 hitting people people that are making comments need to state which build they are talking about because there are 3 builds


stu if it was a pvm guide then i would have said it was lol hammerdins pwn at pvm but the powerdin and the fcrdin are good at pvp

Forseti_Boi evilgrin:

[FraterPerdurabo]

Now, you've been posting a lot of guides lately, some decent, some sucky (this one ain't so good). Did you rip these of another site? If yes, you need to state whence. However, I can just go and check around, I hope I won't have to.

[Forseti_Boi]

yes they are from different sites they are posted by my friends we made the builds together and these builds are v good actually the fcr one allows you to cast invis hammer which is very handy to have and hits 10k+ the powerdin has a min damage of 12K

Forseti_Boi evilgrin:

[BrioCloud]

Now, you've been posting a lot of guides lately, some decent, some sucky (this one ain't so good). Did you rip these of another site? If yes, you need to state whence. However, I can just go and check around, I hope I won't have to.

Yeah they seem to be moving all their members plus their guides into our site.

[Forseti_Boi]

none of the guys who helped me make these build are on here they have retired from closed

Forseti_Boi evilgrin:

[Bartender]

wow have any of you actually played closed? the stupidity of the people that replied in this is amazing Bartender if you pulled your head out of your butt then you would see that i said YOU CAN IF YOU WANT TO the - 500 life from bo wont matter when your 1-3 hitting people people that are making comments need to state which build they are talking about because there are 3 builds


stu if it was a pvm guide then i would have said it was lol hammerdins pwn at pvm but the powerdin and the fcrdin are good at pvp

Forseti_Boi evilgrin:

You're build are shit. They are mfing hammerdins you're using for pvp. Gtfo.

[jedimaster86]

Aie, let's not get all flamey or points will have to be handed out and/or this thread closed.

I noticed some of the builds floating around the net, and I already PM'ed and he said the same response as here, so I have the mentality to trust people unless proven otherwise (otherwise, it's another Dyna on our hands. I could do what I have done in the past and contact other forum staff and figure things out, but I won't this time and will just trust his words to be true.

For anone who thinks they suck, instead of just saying that, offer suggestions on what it could work better, and Forseti either accept or deny those suggestions with utilizing your knowledge in the field to come up with a ratified statement, without calling people here noobs of course.

That is all. Now everyone be nice and stay on topic. /backtotopic

[Forseti_Boi]

i challenge any one to follow one of the builds in this and see if they dont pwn post ss's and no deliberate losses

NEWS FLASH WITH 12K+ DAMAGE YOU CAN PVP WITH THIS DUHHHHH

Forseti_Boi evilgrin:

[FraterPerdurabo]

Don't mind Bartender, he's about to hit puberty and needs to act tough online as a result. However, your builds are pretty lacking.

If you wanted a "Powerdin" or however you'd call it who stays within the 75% FCR cap you could get a LOT more damage than 12k. However, a 75% FCR Hammerdin sucks for PvP, against any character. Sure, you could go to a pub and rape some nablets, but if you ever duel anyone serious, you won't stand a chance. Browse the character development section a little and have a general look around, some really solid builds have been listed there.

[Forseti_Boi]

before i retired from battle.net i never lost a duel with my powerdin my fcrdin is just godly with the invis hammers

Forseti_Boi evilgrin:

[FraterPerdurabo]

Right. You played in Europe? Tell me some of the names of the good people who you dueled? I bet you won't be able to list anyone even remotely good.

[Forseti_Boi]

i didnt play europe i was on us east sc ladder

Forseti_Boi evilgrin:

[FraterPerdurabo]

You're just another one of those self-proclaimed-best-dueler-on-realm people. It takes some skill to show it, frankly you can't prove it, so you're better off shutting up.