11-20-2004, 12:20 AM
Yes, gays are the minority when it comes to AIDS, however that's simply because the number of gays is so far off the number of heterosexuals (which will hence for be referred to as straights since that word is hard for me to type). If you compare the strict percents of gays that have AIDS to straights that have AIDS, you'll see a huge difference. Unfortunately the fact that the U.S. is a secular religion, I don't believe has anything to do with this. It's a fairly common known fact that virtually every religion is free to be believed in the U.S. Which is why it would be going against the constitution outlawing homosexual marriage due to a biblical matter. Undead definitely knew what he was doing when posting this topic here, since it got the debater wannabe's off their asses 
. You've got what psychologists call a "logic trap". A logic trap is where you prove a loosely associated point and then relate the proven point to the point in speculation, thus saying that because they associate the other must be right as well, which isn't nessicarily true. Though I do admire the fact that you bring other quotes into this, extensively researched, you'd be a good lawyer.
However, this isn't about based on America's constitution, since some of us aren't from America. This is about personal belief (or so I thought) on the matter, not the founding father's views.
I understand why you brought the secular nation argument into this, because people were bringing religion into it, and that point was well argued. I did not believe this to be a matter concering should AMERICA legalize gay marriage, more over, if you were king of all, would YOU legalize gay marriage. Which I would, I might add.
Despite the nice argument you presented, the word "windbag" comes to mind, lol. Not only did you waste my time reading your arguments, which I honestly don't think anyone would dispute.
When it comes to an argument of this caliber, do not base your own off of a quote made by a man 200 years ago. Tell us what YOU think.
Nice argument though, really would be a good DA
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. You've got what psychologists call a "logic trap". A logic trap is where you prove a loosely associated point and then relate the proven point to the point in speculation, thus saying that because they associate the other must be right as well, which isn't nessicarily true. Though I do admire the fact that you bring other quotes into this, extensively researched, you'd be a good lawyer. However, this isn't about based on America's constitution, since some of us aren't from America. This is about personal belief (or so I thought) on the matter, not the founding father's views.
I understand why you brought the secular nation argument into this, because people were bringing religion into it, and that point was well argued. I did not believe this to be a matter concering should AMERICA legalize gay marriage, more over, if you were king of all, would YOU legalize gay marriage. Which I would, I might add.
Despite the nice argument you presented, the word "windbag" comes to mind, lol. Not only did you waste my time reading your arguments, which I honestly don't think anyone would dispute.
When it comes to an argument of this caliber, do not base your own off of a quote made by a man 200 years ago. Tell us what YOU think.
Nice argument though, really would be a good DA
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