09-27-2005, 10:14 AM
FraterPerdurabo Wrote:EDIT2: By the way, by developing their V2 project, the Germans were very close to developing a nuke as well. There are some historians that claim that Hitler actually had the nuke already. Also, it was the German scientists that developed Sarin already in 1938.You too my friend are speculating. This is coming from no documentation what so ever. Hitler and Germany was definitely interested in starting up their development of an atomic weapon...Einstein warned the U.S. that much. However, Einstein knew that they weren't near completion nor would they have been by '45. It's just a fact. There were no Nuclear weapons in Germany. By '45 the U.S. had nukes, and the war would have toppled in our favor.
Also, to say that had Hitler formed more alliances with other nations, the war would have been Germany's to keep. Who would ally with him that would have been a great threat to the U.S. and Britain and Russia? Name one nation besides Japan that was any threat. That statement is plain wrong. No other nations were considerable threats to the war effort. Don't say France or Italy, because they were dice being tossed about. Definitely not Spain, oh no way. They were about to suffer a terrible revolution following the war and before simply did not have enough military strength. The only nation you are referring to is Russia. And no way was Hitler going to do that. Maybe the non-aggression agreement. But no further. Why?
1: Hitler was a fanatical ideologist
2: Because of his ideology, he considered the Slavic people to be only 1 rung above the Jews. And because of that 20million Russians died, either in combat or in concentration camps. Heh, although some Nazis got a first class ride to Siberian work camps...and heh, we know what went on there to the Nazis

You know your information. But to speculate will in no ways help your arguement. History unfolded the way it did for a reason. And that reason is that there were no other ways in which it would have been different. To say otherwise is speculating.
I agree that the Nazis would not have defeated Russia...however...had Hitler not been fighting Britain and the U.S., this might have been a different scenario altogether. Because the Nazis were more successful then Napoleon in Russia. Had Stalingrad fallen, that would have been it for Russia. But this is speculation! Making me a hypocrite! Damn it! I lose!
:wacky: :p