Michael Vick... What is a man?

[The Mob]

It's despicable? You know many of those dog fights are to the death? So, he did in fact cause the death of many of those animals and specifically trained them to be killers. You're trying to pull one of these, "man is the real monster" kind of deals and you're failing miserably. This isn't King Kong...this is a poor excuse for a human being taking advantage of suffering.

Saying that what we would like to do to Vick is like saying that people who keep others as slaves should only get a slap on the wrist. If someone took in a human being and tortured them and even made them fight for their lives against other slaves, would he warrant the death penalty? I'm sure you'd have a difference of opinion since those are humans being used like that. It's this double standard bull shit that makes me hate having debates with people like this.

but you have some how proved my point (even though i did not imply that).. that man is the real monster. who is forcing dogs to fight to the death? we are.

as for the double standard, i stand by it. there should be one. dont get me wrong, torturing dogs for pleasure is seriously messed up. but you really cant apply the same sentences to what a human does to another human. they are two entirely different cases. a human torturing and killing other human should be dealt with in the harshest way possible. but a dog is lesser than a human.

that is the reason why we hunt too. b/c we have accepted that the animals we kill are not of the same worth as humans. and not to mention that we have done it for thousands of years, so it has been accepted throughout the ages.