Intelligent debate on religon

[mikea454]

Spelling mistakes.... who cares, we are talking about an important topic, and I spelled religion right several other times, so clearly a typo.

2. I presume it was discarded in Christianity but kept strong by the Muslim faith. Also, Christians are not worshipping a new idol, Jesus IS God, not some other person that came along talking about him.

Discarded - the sacred commandments given by god himself to moses are disposable? and yes thanks to our 'holy trinity' concept it is not a new idol, but is still a craven image which is not allowed in the jewish faith. Ever been to a synagague - there are no images of any people - gods or saints. This is a manipulation by the christian church.

3. The trinity. God, who impregnates Mary, making the second part, Jesus. He is then killed and gives magical powers to his apostles so that they may spread his word as the Holy Spirit. There's your trinity, not too hard is it?

Magical powers?? I know what three make up the trinity, I was asking for an explanation of the concept of the trinity

4. It's easier.

Well its also easier to not to get up on sunday and go to church... this is not a reason - your answers are shallow regurtations.

5. Why the hell should it have?

because the scriptures say the end of the world comes with the coming of the 'messiah' - you know judgement day....

6. They were wrong at first and decided not to change it.

People once believed the world is flat.... shall we stick to that as well - again this is not an answer - I invited an intelligent discussion

7. It's viewed as "unnatural." There are no homosexual animals and monkeys don't pleasure themselves, or any other animal for that matter, when they very well could if they wanted to.

Homosexuality is 'unnatural' .... First of all there is documented evidence for gay animals or animals that are attracted to others not even of their species.... first google hit on the subject from the wikapedia - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_animals
also mentions mastur-bation in many animal species and in both sexes. Additionally humans have argueable the greatest satisfaction from sexual activity (pigs possibly the other - since they can also have orgasms). Also if god didn't want us to have sex outside of procreation and not mastur-bate than why do we have so many nerve endings in those areas that give us such pleasure?? (the **** definately has one of the top densest nerve collections in the human body - ears, fingertips - not so sensitive. The brain is obviously the most dense w/ connected spinal cord)

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8. For a place to worship.

why cant we worship anywhere, specifically not a building that rivals palaces and castles in lavishness - again your answer says nothing

9. God cannot interveine in the lives of others on a daily basis, and to help starving children things would be have to taken away from others. Why the hell do you use Etheopian children as your example? You have nothing else better to think of, probably watching too much South Park and come here to make yourself look good. There are starving children, fathers, mothers, entire families even, all over the world and most likely in your own city. Why is it that every other religion is damned to hell? WRONG! People who do not accept god are damned to hell. Muslims accept God, the just do not believe that Jesus was his son. Jewish people accept God. As for animals? It is thought that they have no soul, and therefor cannot go to heaven nor hell.

I used that example long before south park and for the record almost never watch the show. And I realize there is hardship throughout the world. Perhaps you dont believe believe jews or muslims are damned to hell but there are christians who do believe this - and if you read my introduction I was address questions to groups they are true for. If your sect of christianity believes all you need is a belief in god then the question was not to you - however I highly doubt they would be so forgiving to non-christians.

10. We pray to saints because they are not human, but have become God-like for there actions on Earth. Saints are like angels.

godlike? become angels? why because the pope named them a saint? how do we know they didn't wind up in hell for some secret perversion? perhaps your praying to deaf ears... praying to god I understand, but not saints

11. God is portayed a male human because he is portayed as his messenger. It is stated that God has no single form. Have you even read the Bible?

I have read the bible - and I know this, but he is still repeatedly portrayed as a man - because men are the portrayors

12. Gravity is measurable you ****. Its force has been measured and, if anything, it is most definitely not a "phlogistan" or a phlogiston. Gravity has nothing to do with combustion.

whats with the language - there is no need for swears in intelligent conversation. Gravity is just a theory - you are not measure gravity, but you are measuring its affect on objects.... yes you can measure how a ball falls to the earth but this is an indirect measurement. Gravity is far more complicated than this and recently physics suggests many theorys of explanation including a theory that gravity is a force which seeps in from another dimension of space time (this is by a prominent physicist) - There is a general agreement in the physics community that there are more than 3 or 4 of the typically suggested dimensions. String theory suggests at least 8 and M-theory at least 11 I believe (dont remember the exact numbers) As for phlogiston congrats on actually knowing what that word means - I was just using it to illistrate a point - using a made up word from a long ago dispproven theory. Clearly an analogy that escaped you.

13. It's believed to encourange fornication, which in Christianity is a damnable offense without confession.

And why is sex evil???

14. The Sabbath has been kept. The changing of the day does not mean it has been broken.

The day has been changed... the commandment does not say keep one day a week holy.... it says keep the SABBATH holy. Who is any man to decide which day this is. (sabbath translates to saturday)

This was not a debate in the slightest.

your right your answers, answered nothing. You have no free thought of your own to share

Almost forgot, concerning your second post on the selling of pardons, that was from the greed of man, do not accuse God of that.

I never accused God of such vileness.... I was merely commenting on the corruption of the church, and the men who are suppose to our religious leaders. My comment was merely my digust at the idea that you could 'buy god's foregiveness'.