08-18-2006, 05:48 PM
(This post was last modified: 08-18-2006, 06:21 PM by FeNiXSuNfIrE.)
lolol okkkay for one, this isnt new.....i learned about this in my physics class 9months ago and they discovered this potential planet on January 8th, 2005... but is good topic for discussion anyway.
second of all...pluto is actually borderline "planet" as far as nasa's definitions are concerned. they are currently debating what the true definition of a planet is and should be.
![[Image: xenaorbit.png]](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v174/LordSunfire/xenaorbit.png)
![[Image: xenasize.jpg]](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v174/LordSunfire/xenasize.jpg)
ummm no...not exactly, then what are comets? they are giant masses, they are supercompacted balls of metal/rock/gas same as a planet, yet they are not planets. they are constantly debating a true defination for a "planet" and more scientists believe that not even pluto should be classified as a planet.
to give u a little more info on this "planet" xena, it orbits further then 3times the distance from the sun as does pluto. they think it is straight out of the Kuiper Belt or a Kuiper Belt Object (KBO). The Kuiper belt is an icy disk of debris orbiting the sun, beyond Neptune, and is the original home of many comets. Many scientists would prefer that all KBOs were designated as asteroids, or for the very large ones like Pluto and Xena, as minor planets. the temperature on the surface is 23 to 24 kelvins...that is EXTREMELY cold. thats -250.15 to -249.15 degrees celcius or -418.27 to -416.67 degrees Fahrenheit......water freezes at 273.15 K....and this "planets" surface is 24K. FREAKIN COLD. as for possible life on this Mass, it is very unlikely. 0K also known as Absolute Zero, is the point where it is so cold that absolutly all motion stops. this includes the constant vibrations and orbits of electrons around the nucleus of a cell. ALL MOTION STOPS, and NOTHING survives. 24K is gettin very close to Absolute Zero...it is very very safe to say there is no life.
this is quoted from a study done on the subject
okay...now this is pure stupidity...
![[Image: starcluster.jpg]](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v174/LordSunfire/starcluster.jpg)
this is a REAL picture from the Hubble Space Telescope...take a good look at that. this in one star cluster. from earth if u could locate where this picture was taken it would look like one tiny point of light (or "star") in the sky. this is one cluster of MILLIONS upon BILLIONS upon TRILLIONS of similiar or larger clusters. these clusters are contained in glaxies, each galaxy posessing millions of clusters.![[Image: spiralgalaxies.jpg]](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v174/LordSunfire/spiralgalaxies.jpg)
this is an example of a spiral galaxy (keep in mind these are REAL pictures from the hubble space telescope), if u look close enuf u will see that those are tiny dots making up the spiral....each DOT is a CLUSTER of stars. there are TRILLIONS of galaxies out there. and theres bigger masses and collections that galaxies.... so try to comprehend how many stars are out there (which u cant because there is infinity..)
EACH STAR in one cluster potentially boasts more then one "planet". each star can have its own solar system smaller or larger then our own. now just from this one picture of a CLUSTER (first picture of stars)..if each one of thoses stars had only 5 planets, what are the odds that none of them had any form of life? if u have any common sense at all u will say the odds suck ass and there is no way theres not life elsewhere besides earth.
i hope i have given u guys a little better idea on the "new planet" subject as well as a little eye candy and food for thought.
second of all...pluto is actually borderline "planet" as far as nasa's definitions are concerned. they are currently debating what the true definition of a planet is and should be.
Quote:yeah but one of them has a really wierd orbit and i forgot to ask oe of my teachers if its possible that the new planets can orbit into one of ours T_T...as for this u are correct, the orbit of these potential "planets" are more along the lines of a comet's orbit. instead of being nearly circular like that of the earths, it is very very VERY elongated, hence why we have not yet discovered it until recently (apart from recent advances in technology as well). heres a picture of its orbit...
![[Image: xenaorbit.png]](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v174/LordSunfire/xenaorbit.png)
![[Image: xenasize.jpg]](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v174/LordSunfire/xenasize.jpg)
Quote:if you're talking about the planets, they added them because they ARE planets. no other reasons to benifit us besides knowledge. planets=giant masses of matter than orbit around the sun.
ummm no...not exactly, then what are comets? they are giant masses, they are supercompacted balls of metal/rock/gas same as a planet, yet they are not planets. they are constantly debating a true defination for a "planet" and more scientists believe that not even pluto should be classified as a planet.
to give u a little more info on this "planet" xena, it orbits further then 3times the distance from the sun as does pluto. they think it is straight out of the Kuiper Belt or a Kuiper Belt Object (KBO). The Kuiper belt is an icy disk of debris orbiting the sun, beyond Neptune, and is the original home of many comets. Many scientists would prefer that all KBOs were designated as asteroids, or for the very large ones like Pluto and Xena, as minor planets. the temperature on the surface is 23 to 24 kelvins...that is EXTREMELY cold. thats -250.15 to -249.15 degrees celcius or -418.27 to -416.67 degrees Fahrenheit......water freezes at 273.15 K....and this "planets" surface is 24K. FREAKIN COLD. as for possible life on this Mass, it is very unlikely. 0K also known as Absolute Zero, is the point where it is so cold that absolutly all motion stops. this includes the constant vibrations and orbits of electrons around the nucleus of a cell. ALL MOTION STOPS, and NOTHING survives. 24K is gettin very close to Absolute Zero...it is very very safe to say there is no life.
this is quoted from a study done on the subject
Quote:The discovery is likely to re-ignite the debate over exactly what a planet is. Currently, astronomers don't really have a rock-solid definition that everyone agrees on. Indeed, some argue that Pluto itself is not a true planet, and that it would be better classified as a minor planet as well.
okay...now this is pure stupidity...
Quote:yeah IF you could look far enough. These astronomers ARE now looking far enough with new technology so its a big advancement. They want to learn more about the universe, and by discovering a planet, they are trying to find life, and if they do find signs of life, it will disprove religion. We are not alonethey CAN look that far away, they are lookin across to other universes and have been for years already! have u not seen the pictures hubble has taken!?!?!? go look! nearly ever star u see in the sky has planets orbiting them. now tell me....u go and look at how many stars are in the sky (and u cant even see 1/4 of them) and tell me if every single one of them has potential of having more then one planet....what are the odds we are the ONLY planet with life??? the odds are INFINITY to one. now tell me, is that a safe bet? hell no, with that many planets theres a basic guarantee theres life elsewhere. this doesnt disprove religion either. u obviously arent christian and if u are u are stupid because theres not a christian religion that states there is no life on other planets. they actually say there IS life much like ours in many other places, however im not going to delve into that.
![[Image: starcluster.jpg]](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v174/LordSunfire/starcluster.jpg)
this is a REAL picture from the Hubble Space Telescope...take a good look at that. this in one star cluster. from earth if u could locate where this picture was taken it would look like one tiny point of light (or "star") in the sky. this is one cluster of MILLIONS upon BILLIONS upon TRILLIONS of similiar or larger clusters. these clusters are contained in glaxies, each galaxy posessing millions of clusters.
![[Image: spiralgalaxies.jpg]](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v174/LordSunfire/spiralgalaxies.jpg)
this is an example of a spiral galaxy (keep in mind these are REAL pictures from the hubble space telescope), if u look close enuf u will see that those are tiny dots making up the spiral....each DOT is a CLUSTER of stars. there are TRILLIONS of galaxies out there. and theres bigger masses and collections that galaxies.... so try to comprehend how many stars are out there (which u cant because there is infinity..)
EACH STAR in one cluster potentially boasts more then one "planet". each star can have its own solar system smaller or larger then our own. now just from this one picture of a CLUSTER (first picture of stars)..if each one of thoses stars had only 5 planets, what are the odds that none of them had any form of life? if u have any common sense at all u will say the odds suck ass and there is no way theres not life elsewhere besides earth.
i hope i have given u guys a little better idea on the "new planet" subject as well as a little eye candy and food for thought.