11-30-2007, 12:26 AM
(This post was last modified: 12-05-2007, 10:33 PM by FeNiXSuNfIrE.)
FENIX' KICKSIN aka JAGERMEISTER (PVP and PVM)
Preface- This is a work in progress, a Build/Guide for a good kicker assassin. I am aiming at building a well rounded Kicker. I have read threads upon threads about kickers on this forum and countless others to get all ideas possible (and yes, before you say it, im aware that they arent really good in PvP). I am asking on opinions and possibly more ideas on how to make this sin as good as she can possibly be. I want a PvP gear setup and a PvM gear setup. NOTE: When I say PvM, as im not worried about regular PvM as it is easy to master, I mean Ubers.
Skills:
20 Dragon Talon (primary attack)
20 Fade (Resists+Dr)
20 Venom
20 Blade Shield
1 Dragon Flight
1 Burst of Speed (more?)
1 Mind Blast
1 Death Sentry
1 Cloak of Shadows
1 Shadow Master
(What should the rest of the points be piled into? I am looking for opinions on this.)
Stats:
Strength- enough for gear
Dexterity- enough for max block
Vitality- The rest
Energy- None
Gear:
Helm-
Shako
PvM- Guilaumes (Also, a good helm for PvP)
Vamp Gaze (Keep in mind, Leach does not work in PvP)
Crown of Ages
Kira's (Cannot Be Frozen mod)
Amulet-
Mara's
Metalgrid
Angelics
Rings-
*BK*
*Ravenfrost* (Cannot Be Frozen mod)
Angelics
Carrion Wind
Belt-
Verdungo's
Nosferatu's Coil
Trangs (Cannot Be Frozen mod)
Gloves-
PvM- Laying of Hands (insane boost to damage due to 350% Dmg to Demons Modifier)
PvP- Trangs (25% Poison Damage mod. Necessary for good poison in PvP)
Drac's (BM PVP or PvM Alternative if not using LastWish)
Boots-
Up'd Gores (Highest damage boots with the crushing blow mod)
Shadow Dancer's (A VERY good alternative with skill boosts)
Armor-
PvP- Bramble (Used primarily for the insane boost to your poisons)
PvM- Chains of Honor (This armor is the best for Ubers due to the 200% Dmg to Demons. Combined with Laying of Hands gloves, You will do FIVE and a HALF times damage to the ubers.)
Fort
Enigma
Weapon- Primary:
PvM or BM PvP- Lastwish/Stormshield
PVP- Grief/Stormshield
PvP- Beast/Stormshield
Seconday:
Call To Arms/Spirit
PVP FUN:
Widowmaker Bow (Can be used to cast guided arrow that will pack a punch with your massive Poison Damage)
Inventory-
Torch
Annhilus
Poison Damage Charms
FHR Charms to reach max Breapoint
Resist All Charms to hit max Resists
Martial Art Skill Grand Charms
NOTE: I have provided gear to get the Cannot Be Frozen mod if one chose not to use RavenFrost, as I see it is necessary to have this mod in either PvM or PvP.
KICK PROCS: These are what will work with kick.
- Leech (both from equipment and CS)
- Elemental Damage/Venom
- Crushing Blow
- Open Wounds
- Prevent Monster Heal
- Chance to Cast on Striking
- Hit Causes Monster to Flee
- Ignore Target Defense
- Hit Blinds Target
- Hit Slows Target
- Hit Freezes Target
- Chance to Cast on Attacking
- KnockBack
Breakpoints:
Faster Hit Recovery Breakpoint table (Frame:FHR):
9: 0%
8: 7%
7: 15%
6: 27%
5: 48%
4: 86%
3: 200%
More Assassin Breakpoint Tables: (not my tables, props go to people here: ALL IAS/FHR/FCR tables!!! - Zelaron)
Starting Stats Stat Point Returns
Strength Dexterity Vitality Energy
20 20 20 25
Life per Vitality /Mana per Energy
3 / 1.5
Faster Hit Recovery Breakpoints
Frame 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2
FHR Needed 0% 7% 15% 27% 48% 86% 200% 4680%
Faster Cast Rate Breakpoints
Frame 16 15 14 13 12 11 10 9
FCR Needed 0% 8% 16% 24% 42% 65% 102% 174%
Faster Block Rate Breakpoints
Frame 5 4 3 2 1
FBR Needed 0% 13% 32% 86% 600%
Kick Damage Formula Claw Damage Formula
MinDmg = (str+dex-20)/4)*(100+skill_bonus)/100 + BootMinDam*(100+str*StrBonus/100+skill_bonus)/100
MaxDmg = (str+dex-20)/3)*(100+skill_bonus)/100 + BootMaxDam*(100+str*StrBonus/100+skill_bonus)/100
MinDmg = ([str x 0.75] + [dex + 0.75] + 1 + [Skill bonuses Tiger + DragonClaw + Claw mastery]) X Weapon Min Damage
MaxDmg = ([str x 0.75] + [dex + 0.75] + 1 + [Skill bonuses Tiger + DragonClaw + Claw mastery]) X Weapon Max Damage
Claw IAS
Frame 15.5 15.0 14.5 14.0 13.5 13.0 12.5 12.0 11.5 11.0 10.5 10.0 9.5 9.0 8.5 8.0 7.5
Runic Talons / Greater Talons (-30) 0% 10% 25% 30% 50% 60%
Feral Claws (-20)
0% 5% 20% 40% 45% 75% 90%
Battle Cestus / Wrist Sword (-10) 0% 5% 20% 35% 60% 65% 105% 120%
Suwayyah / Scissors Suwayyah (0) 0% 10% 15% 20% 30% 50% 55% 85% 90% 145% 170%
War Fist (10)
0% 5% 10% 20% 30% 50% 75% 120% 125% 200% 240%
Claw (Tiger/Cobra Strike) IAS Breakpoints
Frame 15 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7
Runic Talons / Greater Talons (-30) 0% 10% 30% 60%
Feral Claws (-20) 0% 5% 20% 45% 90%
Battle Cestus / Wrist Sword (-10) 0% 5% 20% 35% 65% 120%
Suwayyah / Scissors Suwayyah (0) 0% 10% 15% 30% 55% 90% 170%
War Fist (10) 0% 5% 10% 20% 30% 50% 75% 125% 240%
Elemental IAS Breakpoints
Frame 21 20 19 18 17 16 15 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7
Runic Talons / Greater Talons (-30) 0% 15% 30% 50% 90% 180%
Feral Claws (-20) 0% 5% 15% 25% 45% 70% 120% 260%
Battle Cestus / Wrist Sword (-10) 0% 5% 10% 15% 25% 40% 65% 100% 170%
Suwayyah / Scissors Suwayyah (0) 0% 5% 10% 15% 20% 30% 40% 60% 90% 140% 240%
War Fist (10) 0% 5% 10% 15% 20% 30% 35% 50% 60% 90% 125% 195%
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*PvM Setup (Ubers): This is my thoughts on gear for killing Ubers.
Helm- Guilaumes (Um'd for resists)
Armor- Chains of Honor (primarily for 200% Damage to Demons)
Gloves- Laying of Hands (IAS+ 350% Damage to Demons)
Rings- BK/Raven (for much needed Cannot Be Frozen)
Ammy- Metalgrid
Weapon- Last Wish (Massive CB and Lifetap)
Sheild- Stormsheild (Um'd for resists)
Belt- Verdungo's
Boots- Up'd Gores
Inventory: Charms needed to reach 200% FHR Breakpoint. Charms to max Resists. Possibly MaxDamage/AR Charms.
I'm sure alot of you are thinking CoA would be better then Guilaumes. HOWEVER, it would not be worth waisting all those points into Strength to use CoA when, you will easily hit max DR with maxed Fade skill and Stormshield.
*PVP Setup: (disreguarding Lifetap as BM)
Helm- Guilaumes (Um'd for resists)
Armor- Bramble (50% to Poison Skill Damage)
Gloves- Trangs (25% Poison Skill Damage)
Rings- BK/Raven (Cannot Be Frozen)
Ammy- Metalgrid (Resis+AR)
Weapon- Last Wish
Sheild- Stormsheild (Um'd for resists)
Belt- Mara's (Skills+Slow target) or Verdungo's
Boots- Up'd Gores
I would like some opinions on the PVP Build as well. Particularly the Weapon since I consider Lifetap as Bad Manners in duel.
Other Questions I have for you. What are IAS Breakpoints for Kick? Does it depend on claw/weapon speed? and either way could somebody provide a simple table if I was using a phaseblade LastWish?
REVIEW: Thanks for going over this, I have spent alot of time and thought coming up with this, and I hope I can get some input and answers to my questions. As i said in the preface, this is a guide/build IN THE MAKING, so any input to my questions would help me tie this together. I will be writing up strategies for both the UBERS, and VS all the different types of characters in PvP as soon as I can. On a final note....my final kicker sin is waiting on my questions to be answered before i put her together so OPINIONS/COMMENTS/ANSWERS ARE VERY WELCOME and much needed. THANK YOU.
Preface- This is a work in progress, a Build/Guide for a good kicker assassin. I am aiming at building a well rounded Kicker. I have read threads upon threads about kickers on this forum and countless others to get all ideas possible (and yes, before you say it, im aware that they arent really good in PvP). I am asking on opinions and possibly more ideas on how to make this sin as good as she can possibly be. I want a PvP gear setup and a PvM gear setup. NOTE: When I say PvM, as im not worried about regular PvM as it is easy to master, I mean Ubers.
Skills:
20 Dragon Talon (primary attack)
20 Fade (Resists+Dr)
20 Venom
20 Blade Shield
1 Dragon Flight
1 Burst of Speed (more?)
1 Mind Blast
1 Death Sentry
1 Cloak of Shadows
1 Shadow Master
(What should the rest of the points be piled into? I am looking for opinions on this.)
Stats:
Strength- enough for gear
Dexterity- enough for max block
Vitality- The rest
Energy- None
Gear:
Helm-
Shako
PvM- Guilaumes (Also, a good helm for PvP)
Vamp Gaze (Keep in mind, Leach does not work in PvP)
Crown of Ages
Kira's (Cannot Be Frozen mod)
Amulet-
Mara's
Metalgrid
Angelics
Rings-
*BK*
*Ravenfrost* (Cannot Be Frozen mod)
Angelics
Carrion Wind
Belt-
Verdungo's
Nosferatu's Coil
Trangs (Cannot Be Frozen mod)
Gloves-
PvM- Laying of Hands (insane boost to damage due to 350% Dmg to Demons Modifier)
PvP- Trangs (25% Poison Damage mod. Necessary for good poison in PvP)
Drac's (BM PVP or PvM Alternative if not using LastWish)
Boots-
Up'd Gores (Highest damage boots with the crushing blow mod)
Shadow Dancer's (A VERY good alternative with skill boosts)
Armor-
PvP- Bramble (Used primarily for the insane boost to your poisons)
PvM- Chains of Honor (This armor is the best for Ubers due to the 200% Dmg to Demons. Combined with Laying of Hands gloves, You will do FIVE and a HALF times damage to the ubers.)
Fort
Enigma
Weapon- Primary:
PvM or BM PvP- Lastwish/Stormshield
PVP- Grief/Stormshield
PvP- Beast/Stormshield
Seconday:
Call To Arms/Spirit
PVP FUN:
Widowmaker Bow (Can be used to cast guided arrow that will pack a punch with your massive Poison Damage)
Inventory-
Torch
Annhilus
Poison Damage Charms
FHR Charms to reach max Breapoint
Resist All Charms to hit max Resists
Martial Art Skill Grand Charms
NOTE: I have provided gear to get the Cannot Be Frozen mod if one chose not to use RavenFrost, as I see it is necessary to have this mod in either PvM or PvP.
KICK PROCS: These are what will work with kick.
- Leech (both from equipment and CS)
- Elemental Damage/Venom
- Crushing Blow
- Open Wounds
- Prevent Monster Heal
- Chance to Cast on Striking
- Hit Causes Monster to Flee
- Ignore Target Defense
- Hit Blinds Target
- Hit Slows Target
- Hit Freezes Target
- Chance to Cast on Attacking
- KnockBack
Breakpoints:
Faster Hit Recovery Breakpoint table (Frame:FHR):
9: 0%
8: 7%
7: 15%
6: 27%
5: 48%
4: 86%
3: 200%
More Assassin Breakpoint Tables: (not my tables, props go to people here: ALL IAS/FHR/FCR tables!!! - Zelaron)
Starting Stats Stat Point Returns
Strength Dexterity Vitality Energy
20 20 20 25
Life per Vitality /Mana per Energy
3 / 1.5
Faster Hit Recovery Breakpoints
Frame 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2
FHR Needed 0% 7% 15% 27% 48% 86% 200% 4680%
Faster Cast Rate Breakpoints
Frame 16 15 14 13 12 11 10 9
FCR Needed 0% 8% 16% 24% 42% 65% 102% 174%
Faster Block Rate Breakpoints
Frame 5 4 3 2 1
FBR Needed 0% 13% 32% 86% 600%
Kick Damage Formula Claw Damage Formula
MinDmg = (str+dex-20)/4)*(100+skill_bonus)/100 + BootMinDam*(100+str*StrBonus/100+skill_bonus)/100
MaxDmg = (str+dex-20)/3)*(100+skill_bonus)/100 + BootMaxDam*(100+str*StrBonus/100+skill_bonus)/100
MinDmg = ([str x 0.75] + [dex + 0.75] + 1 + [Skill bonuses Tiger + DragonClaw + Claw mastery]) X Weapon Min Damage
MaxDmg = ([str x 0.75] + [dex + 0.75] + 1 + [Skill bonuses Tiger + DragonClaw + Claw mastery]) X Weapon Max Damage
Claw IAS
Frame 15.5 15.0 14.5 14.0 13.5 13.0 12.5 12.0 11.5 11.0 10.5 10.0 9.5 9.0 8.5 8.0 7.5
Runic Talons / Greater Talons (-30) 0% 10% 25% 30% 50% 60%
Feral Claws (-20)
0% 5% 20% 40% 45% 75% 90%
Battle Cestus / Wrist Sword (-10) 0% 5% 20% 35% 60% 65% 105% 120%
Suwayyah / Scissors Suwayyah (0) 0% 10% 15% 20% 30% 50% 55% 85% 90% 145% 170%
War Fist (10)
0% 5% 10% 20% 30% 50% 75% 120% 125% 200% 240%
Claw (Tiger/Cobra Strike) IAS Breakpoints
Frame 15 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7
Runic Talons / Greater Talons (-30) 0% 10% 30% 60%
Feral Claws (-20) 0% 5% 20% 45% 90%
Battle Cestus / Wrist Sword (-10) 0% 5% 20% 35% 65% 120%
Suwayyah / Scissors Suwayyah (0) 0% 10% 15% 30% 55% 90% 170%
War Fist (10) 0% 5% 10% 20% 30% 50% 75% 125% 240%
Elemental IAS Breakpoints
Frame 21 20 19 18 17 16 15 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7
Runic Talons / Greater Talons (-30) 0% 15% 30% 50% 90% 180%
Feral Claws (-20) 0% 5% 15% 25% 45% 70% 120% 260%
Battle Cestus / Wrist Sword (-10) 0% 5% 10% 15% 25% 40% 65% 100% 170%
Suwayyah / Scissors Suwayyah (0) 0% 5% 10% 15% 20% 30% 40% 60% 90% 140% 240%
War Fist (10) 0% 5% 10% 15% 20% 30% 35% 50% 60% 90% 125% 195%
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
*PvM Setup (Ubers): This is my thoughts on gear for killing Ubers.
Helm- Guilaumes (Um'd for resists)
Armor- Chains of Honor (primarily for 200% Damage to Demons)
Gloves- Laying of Hands (IAS+ 350% Damage to Demons)
Rings- BK/Raven (for much needed Cannot Be Frozen)
Ammy- Metalgrid
Weapon- Last Wish (Massive CB and Lifetap)
Sheild- Stormsheild (Um'd for resists)
Belt- Verdungo's
Boots- Up'd Gores
Inventory: Charms needed to reach 200% FHR Breakpoint. Charms to max Resists. Possibly MaxDamage/AR Charms.
I'm sure alot of you are thinking CoA would be better then Guilaumes. HOWEVER, it would not be worth waisting all those points into Strength to use CoA when, you will easily hit max DR with maxed Fade skill and Stormshield.
*PVP Setup: (disreguarding Lifetap as BM)
Helm- Guilaumes (Um'd for resists)
Armor- Bramble (50% to Poison Skill Damage)
Gloves- Trangs (25% Poison Skill Damage)
Rings- BK/Raven (Cannot Be Frozen)
Ammy- Metalgrid (Resis+AR)
Weapon- Last Wish
Sheild- Stormsheild (Um'd for resists)
Belt- Mara's (Skills+Slow target) or Verdungo's
Boots- Up'd Gores
I would like some opinions on the PVP Build as well. Particularly the Weapon since I consider Lifetap as Bad Manners in duel.
Other Questions I have for you. What are IAS Breakpoints for Kick? Does it depend on claw/weapon speed? and either way could somebody provide a simple table if I was using a phaseblade LastWish?
REVIEW: Thanks for going over this, I have spent alot of time and thought coming up with this, and I hope I can get some input and answers to my questions. As i said in the preface, this is a guide/build IN THE MAKING, so any input to my questions would help me tie this together. I will be writing up strategies for both the UBERS, and VS all the different types of characters in PvP as soon as I can. On a final note....my final kicker sin is waiting on my questions to be answered before i put her together so OPINIONS/COMMENTS/ANSWERS ARE VERY WELCOME and much needed. THANK YOU.