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Georgian-Russian war
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Determinado Wrote:1) The USA is so liberal it's controlled by the elite. Just the way the election campaigns are funded by the largest companies shows just how liberal the USA really is;

What? So you blame liberalism for the Unites States actions? I think you misunderstand what liberalism means in the US. Its the hard line speak softly carry a big stick conservatives that push for military action and hard sanctions against countries who act in a manner deemed "wrong" or detrimental to US foreign interests. Its the liberals who want to sit down with every despot in the world and have tea and crumpets and wait as long as possible, aka until it all comes to a boiling point, to take any action that might deter the despots from their evil ways.

Determinado Wrote:And who-oh-who would have made the fake video where Bin Laden admits being the mastermind of the 9/11 attacks?
Not convinced by the video itself? What about the FBI website:
Most Wanted Terrorist - Usama Bin Laden

What is he wanted for? THE AUGUST 7, 1998, BOMBINGS OF THE UNITED STATES EMBASSIES IN DAR ES SALAAM, TANZANIA, AND NAIROBI, KENYA

Osama Bin Laden isn't that important because the special unit that was searching for him was disbanded just a bit over 2 years ago now: C.I.A. Closes Unit Focused on Capture of bin Laden - New York Times

Could anyone give me one good reason why Osama wouldn't be searched for the 9-11 attacks, the most known terrorist attack in human history?

Osama is an issue separate from the Georgian-Russia issue and deserves a thread of its own. I will concede that the near complete halt for the search for Osama is a serious blunder by the Bush administration and will probably color his entire administration as a failure in regards to the fight against terrorism. But who knows it hasn't really seemed to hurt Bill Clintons administration to badly yet.

Determinado Wrote:2) I know there's an important pipeline, but it's more important for Russia than it is for the US. But let's not talk about oil since that has to do with the US rather than with Russia-Georgia.

Not really. That pipeline brings oil from Asia to ports to be exported to the US and would cause a serious problem if ever shut off. It would be a huge barganing chip for Russia if they took control of it. Hence having to do with the Georgian-Russia conflict.

Determinado Wrote:3) 'Georgia struck first', are you going to tell me Russia wants to go to South-Ossetia to be a hero and break free the seperatists there oppressed by the Georgian government?
Those tanks that are now in Georgia come straight from Chechnya where the Russians are oppressing seperatists for over 10 years!
Chechnya is a place where Chechnyans are murdered, tortured, raped, abused by Russians and many people who could escape the region have serious psychological traumas from it.

I'm not going to try and win the who started it argument because it doesn't really matter. If Georgia started then I think Russia has shown fairly well what happens to those who try and bully it, especially those much weaker than it. If Russia started it then they need to be punished by the global community and smacked back into their place so they don't try it again, at least for a while.
"One murder makes a villain, millions a hero. "
- Beilby Porteus, Death, A Poem
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Georgian-Russian war - by Determinado - 08-19-2008, 10:47 AM
Georgian-Russian war - by SpoonMan999 - 08-19-2008, 12:55 PM
Georgian-Russian war - by Obfuscate - 08-19-2008, 01:25 PM
Georgian-Russian war - by Frai7ty - 08-19-2008, 02:31 PM
Georgian-Russian war - by Bloodangel26 - 08-19-2008, 02:52 PM
Georgian-Russian war - by Determinado - 08-20-2008, 10:05 AM
Georgian-Russian war - by erizoe - 08-20-2008, 12:12 PM
Georgian-Russian war - by Obfuscate - 08-20-2008, 12:51 PM
Georgian-Russian war - by Ares - 08-20-2008, 01:01 PM
Georgian-Russian war - by Determinado - 08-20-2008, 10:19 PM
Georgian-Russian war - by Mathalamus - 08-21-2008, 12:13 AM
Georgian-Russian war - by SpoonMan999 - 08-21-2008, 02:24 AM
Georgian-Russian war - by Determinado - 08-21-2008, 02:44 AM
Georgian-Russian war - by SpoonMan999 - 08-21-2008, 03:35 AM
Georgian-Russian war - by Determinado - 08-21-2008, 03:41 AM
Georgian-Russian war - by Mathalamus - 08-21-2008, 05:49 AM
Georgian-Russian war - by SpoonMan999 - 08-21-2008, 06:49 AM
Georgian-Russian war - by pepereina1 - 08-21-2008, 06:59 AM
Georgian-Russian war - by Determinado - 08-21-2008, 08:10 AM
Georgian-Russian war - by tranquill - 08-30-2008, 12:26 AM
Georgian-Russian war - by Mathalamus - 09-25-2008, 11:23 AM

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