italy as an axis power...

[Ares]

Victors always get to make the rules pam its our job


On the side note, Math yes I DO know most of the major battles and even small ones, I DO know what happened to and with the German soldiers in the Army groups on the Eastern Front. Not just from the American view, but from the German, and the Russian.

I've read many books on the War in Europe, it fascinates me. If you would like to ask any questions feel free to ask.

Math, you've never been to an American school. HOW DO YOU KNOW? I've never heard of anyone saying, "Man I'd really love to go to that school in Ontario." All the colleges my friends applied to were either in the US or in Europe.

As to the war, you admited in the first post you were reading this shit on Wikipedia...I could do the same thing and throw out all sorts of specifics but I use what I learned and what I remember for my arguements. It's the way I have always done political discussions and such, I discuss what I know.

I feel the big turning points in the war were:

Hitler betraying Stalin. Attacking Russia was probably the biggest mistake Hitler made in the war. - It was his biggest mistake.

The Japanes bombing Pearl Harbor. Getting America involved leads to Allies having enough troops to spread out onto multiple fronts. Not to mention a naval base much closer to Japan with a fairly large naval presence. They came pretty close too.... It was all down to one final battle. Midway, thank goodness we kicked their ass.

And the bronze medal? Erwin Rommel. Sending Rommel to go toe to toe with Patton in Africa was a HUGE mistake. And why did he do it? Because Rommel questioned a decision? Rommel was one of Hitler's best, if not the best general he had, and he sent him off where he could do the least good. And to top it off? He didn't resupply Rommel when it was needed and Rommel lost to Patton (Who was one of the best the US had but sent off for similar reasons) - The thought of Germans being superior. He did the same in the Eastern Fronts, did not supply his men when it was needed.

Good post

Very true, if you count all of the political killings and people taken by the KGB Russia killed a great many people. Not for their religion or anything like that but merel for disagreeing with policy or questioning authority. I believe it was Stalin who once starved thousands of people by cutting off all supplies to them, and they did not have the means to defend themselves from Russia. Revenge.... Hitler brutally ravaged the Russians, Stalin and his men wanted revenge. And Stalin did kill millions of his own people, killed all but a few generals as well.

Also Math, Russian comrades? Did Canada even fight in WWII? I'm well aware that the Russians lost more people than the US and British combined...but how many Canadians even participated in battle?

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