Godly Pally Gear

[BoJaNgLes]

Im on Ladder Us -East Realm and i'm asking for your ppls opinoins on the BEST godly gear for a zealot pally pvp. Thanks for your input and opinions.

[Tsuki]

what kinda zealot? fanatism?? freezalot?? or The Thunderzealot =)

[BoJaNgLes]

My pally is a fanatism pally.

[ArcaneSupremacy]

pallies have too many gear choices to determine just one BEST choice. most i can do is list some popular ones. i'll start with weapons and shields. let me know if i missed a few.

weapons:

top choices:
- grief
- eBotD
- eth death cleaver
- one of those crazy rares
the rather questionable ones:
- doom
- eth stormlash
- HoJ
- kingslayer
- upped eth headstriker

shields:

top choices:
- SS
- alma negra
- phoenix
- eth exile
the rather questionable ones:
- HoZ
- good rares

[BoJaNgLes]

It looks like you covered what i was looking for except for armor. But thank you for your opinion man i appreciate it.

[ArcaneSupremacy]

ok i'll list some armors.

- fortitude
- enigma
- stone
- duress
- eth prudence
- upped shaftstop
- eth steel carapace
- eth zodded gladiator's bane
- eth zodded arkaine's valor
- eth zodded templar's might
- leviathan

[Dynafrom]

enigma = shit on a zealer

[BoJaNgLes]

I was leaning towards fortitude what you think ?

[Silver Ice]

THE ZEALOT:
fort=best zealot armor
phoenix=best zealot shield
ebotd zerker=alright weapon
insane rare 450% 2 sock eth repairing 40% ias zerker=best weapon, insert 2 lo's
boots: perf upped gores do alright. with the rare axe u get 50% deadly strike so very good pvp
gloves: rends or dracusl are the best.
belt: verdungoes...... no questions
helm: cham ber or cham 40/15% coa, others might be a superior dream helm for some nice holy shock dmg.
rings and ammy: 3 angelics

[BoJaNgLes]

Wow thanks for that awesome advise theres only one thing though those 450's they really are insane. but i did say godly didnt I. Thnks man i appreciate it.

[ArcaneSupremacy]

apparently u ppl don't seem to understand what "there is no best" means. show me a pally with what u think is "best" and i'll prove u wrong.

silver_ice1212 , ur setup gets u 38% dr at most, not to mention much lower def than most zealots have. it CAN be a good setup, maybe in pvm, but it is by no means the best.

[Siluru]

Damage Reduce isn't what it used to be, so it isn't need much. True, it can be helpful, but Ber'd CoA + Dungos should be enough. I'd still go with Exile over SS. I'd also go with Dream Exile instead of Pheonix CoA just because I like the extra auras.

[Silver Ice]

apparently u ppl don't seem to understand what "there is no best" means. show me a pally with what u think is "best" and i'll prove u wrong.

silver_ice1212 , ur setup gets u 38% dr at most, not to mention much lower def than most zealots have. it CAN be a good setup, maybe in pvm, but it is by no means the best.

well if u figure out that fort does have chilling armor.... that adds some defense anyway...... and 3keyz..... dream adds like 700 holy shock dmg to ur attack...thats light dmg,. u can use resist charms.... but u cant have % dmg reduct charms......
and i dont see why tyraels might isnt up here....... its an alright armor

[ArcaneSupremacy]

i do think fortitude is a good armor, but it has "20% Chance To Cast Level 15 Chilling Armor when Struck", which is 1 in every 5 hits. i seriously doubt u'll survive 5 hits from an average zealot. yes, tyrael's might is probably a good zealot armor, but i only listed the popular ones. so far, i haven't seen anyone use it, and i haven't myself either, so i won't say much about it.

"Damage Reduce isn't what it used to be, so it isn't need much." ...50% is the cap, and if my opponents don't want to have the maximum they could get, that's alright with me. it's nice of them to let me deal some extra dmg.

exile is overrated. i've lost count of how many exile zealots i've beaten. i use SS btw. even my crappy ladder zealot who's only 2/3 filled with charms clearly defeated most of the exile+bo zealots ive dueled. if none of them had bo, i guess i'd have killed them ALL.

exile has low blocking and no stat bonuses...which means more pts in str/dex, which means less pts in vit. the life tap isn't gonna save u if u die in just a couple of hits. and yes...u WILL get hit. recent calculations have proven that defense over a certain point (around 30k) makes very little difference (the difference between 34k and . i know someone who has 31k def using alma negra, no bugged items, no stacked auras, and no cta. msg him and he'll make a believer out of u. ~The Professor~~ lvl 91 temple zealot. Us West NL

here's one of his quotes that makes a lot of sense to me, "West evolved in zealot making... now we are waiting for east to catch up."


here's something i found...
Quote from Mortic.
22.5k ar
35k def (no prebuff)
chance to hit eth templar/exile = 33%

eth templar/exile/angelics:
20k ar
45k def (no prebuff)
chance to hit eth templar/hoz = 36%


As you can see there is no real bonus from the defense and defiance of exile. From experience exile will win if life tap is casted when the exile user still has over 50% life left. Otherwise, other shield user has the advantage of higher damage. End Quote from Mortic.



Quoted from Stoutwood:
That's how you hit someone with 45k defense. The difference between the two is negligible. And yes, if someone has 19k defense without Exile, they will get KO'ed in one or two zeals. That is obscenely low defense whether or not you are an Exile user. End Quote from Stoutwood.

[Tsuki]

Ok Mainly im a Thunderzealot pally but since you want a fanatism guy u get one ok? if u want godly get all this shit perf

Helm- Perfect Coa Ber Ber or 80/30

Armour- 950+ Coh , Perfect D/R Levi W Ber or Cham

Wepon- Botd Zerk Axe 415% ED

Shield- Eth Exile 1.3k Def+ with resists

Wep2- CtA 6bo+

Shld2- Splendor

Gloves- Druculs , Rends , 20 Ias Duel 5 Leech + Life or Strg

Belt- Perfect Verdungos

Boots- Gore Riders

Rings- If you Ber'd Levi or using Coh Use Raven+Angelic if u didnt use Angelic+Angelic or BK ring or Wisp Projector(for Gay spirit lol)

Ammy- Angelic..DUH lol

Skills- Every one knows the dam skills

20 Fanatism
20 Zeal
20 Sacrafice
20 holy shield
20 Diafiance
Extras go to like Charge


Merc #1-
Act 2 NM offensive merc (Might)
Wepon- Botd Ghost Spear
Armour-Eth Coh Or eth GB zoded
Helm- Andys W 40/15 or CoA 80/30


Merc #2- (Dueling Mainly)
Act 1 Cold Arrow Merc
Wepon- Botd Crusador Bow or WF 40/15 or Ohm or Shael
Armour- 16060 Life
Helm- 12045 Life

[ArcaneSupremacy]

Tsuki, obviously u haven't read any of the above posts. there's just no reasoning with u.

[Silver Ice]

[QUOTE=AznAvatar]i do think fortitude is a good armor, but it has "20% Chance To Cast Level 15 Chilling Armor when Struck", which is 1 in every 5 hits. i seriously doubt u'll survive 5 hits from an average zealot. yes, tyrael's might is probably a good zealot armor, but i only listed the popular ones. so far, i haven't seen anyone use it, and i haven't myself either, so i won't say much about it.

"Damage Reduce isn't what it used to be, so it isn't need much." ...50% is the cap, and if my opponents don't want to have the maximum they could get, that's alright with me. it's nice of them to let me deal some extra dmg.

exile is overrated. i've lost count of how many exile zealots i've beaten. i use SS btw. even my crappy ladder zealot who's only 2/3 filled with charms clearly defeated most of the exile+bo zealots ive dueled. if none of them had bo, i guess i'd have killed them ALL.

exile has low blocking and no stat bonuses...which means more pts in str/dex, which means less pts in vit. the life tap isn't gonna save u if u die in just a couple of hits. and yes...u WILL get hit. recent calculations have proven that defense over a certain point (around 30k) makes very little difference (the difference between 34k and . i know someone who has 31k def using alma negra, no bugged items, no stacked auras, and no cta. msg him and he'll make a believer out of u. ~The Professor~~ lvl 91 temple zealot. Us West NL

here's one of his quotes that makes a lot of sense to me, "West evolved in zealot making... now we are waiting for east to catch up."


here's something i found...
Quote from Mortic.
22.5k ar
35k def (no prebuff)
chance to hit eth templar/exile = 33%

eth templar/exile/angelics:
20k ar
45k def (no prebuff)
chance to hit eth templar/hoz = 36%


As you can see there is no real bonus from the defense and defiance of exile. From experience exile will win if life tap is casted when the exile user still has over 50% life left. Otherwise, other shield user has the advantage of higher damage. End Quote from Mortic.



Quoted from Stoutwood:
That's how you hit someone with 45k defense. The difference between the two is negligible. And yes, if someone has 19k defense without Exile, they will get KO'ed in one or two zeals. That is obscenely low defense whether or not you are an Exile user. End Quote from Stoutwood.[/QUOTE]


thats why u go and take off ur phoenix shield and let some monsters hit u first so u get chilling armor on..... then u put ur shield back on, power up and go fight..... its just common sense. with your 3k or so higher dmg that u get from phoenix or 500 more dmg per swing u have a pretty good chance at winning........ also try to be lvl 93 or higher before u duel

[BoJaNgLes]

Wow this is some good stuff guys . I just got a eth templar zoded for 2 pnb gc's so im wondering what shield.. Im kinda thinking Hoz? What do you think >?

[ArcaneSupremacy]

silver...in that case i can just put on fortitude, get hit by some monsters, then put on whatever 2k+ def armor and still top u def-wise, and while i'm at it, i might as well go put on spirit ward and get hit till i cast fade too, and same goes with every chance to cast whatever item. pvp would be total bs if that's how everyone duels. dmg-wise, it's still possible for me to top u there due to ur lower DR. ur lower life will make it even easier to KO u in 1-2 hits. phoenix is clearly designed for a glass cannon build.

[BoJaNgLes]

Hey How much Dex will i need to max my block with Hoz ?