Da Vinci Code... What I know and my questions about it.

[Metalhead Steve]

Well the Virgin Mary, Jesus' mother was a saint yes. Mary Magdalene is portrayed as a prostitute in the Bible though, and I guess the Da Vinci Code is trying to prove otherwise.

[wm_hunter]

I said I wasn't going to say anything, but I feel I must.

The main reason the church is boycotting the book is because the book states that the Roman Catholic Church had taken testaments and removed information out of the Bible that speaks of Mary Magdalene and her huge involvement with Jesus, and did this in order to keep a male-church and destroy any mention of females being sacred.

They invented the prostitution, when in reality, Mary was of royal decent, and was the wife of Jesus. They had children and there is still a bloodline of Jesus living today (who are the people that protect these secrets from society), and that Mary Magdalene, not the cup that Jesus passed around, was the Holy Grail.

By the Church removing these testaments from the Bible, they were able to construct the idea that Jesus died for everyone’s sins, as well as removing any mention of the sacred feminine from the Bible. There was, and still is, a lot of sexism towards women in the church. By removing all mention of women being sacred, and Mary’s relation to Jesus, the Church was able to stay female-free.

I find it funny that usually when ludicrous statements towards the Church are made, they stay silent and lay-low. It seems that something in The Da Vinci Code has them pissed off, to the point of openly boycotting it.

Read the book, a four-paragraph post is nothing compared to it.

[Metalhead Steve]

I think I may need to, you just put everything about it into perspective. But I've heard theres alot of fiction in the book also. I still do believe it is possible, because I caught about 5 mins of something on the History Channel and they were saying the Dead Sea Scrolls held the key to the Holy Grail and that the Grail was Mary Magdalene.
It may have been uncovered if it weren't for the Crusades. Since the Crusades were about the Grail it wouldn't be surprising if the Church found and burnt or hid documents that would have proved that she was a key player in the Bible.

[FraterPerdurabo]

I said I wasn't going to say anything, but I feel I must.

The main reason the church is boycotting the book is because the book states that the Roman Catholic Church had taken testaments and removed information out of the Bible that speaks of Mary Magdalene and her huge involvement with Jesus, and did this in order to keep a male-church and destroy any mention of females being sacred.

They invented the prostitution, when in reality, Mary was of royal decent, and was the wife of Jesus. They had children and there is still a bloodline of Jesus living today (who are the people that protect these secrets from society), and that Mary Magdalene, not the cup that Jesus passed around, was the Holy Grail.

By the Church removing these testaments from the Bible, they were able to construct the idea that Jesus died for everyone’s sins, as well as removing any mention of the sacred feminine from the Bible. There was, and still is, a lot of sexism towards women in the church. By removing all mention of women being sacred, and Mary’s relation to Jesus, the Church was able to stay female-free.

I find it funny that usually when ludicrous statements towards the Church are made, they stay silent and lay-low. It seems that something in The Da Vinci Code has them pissed off, to the point of openly boycotting it.

Read the book, a four-paragraph post is nothing compared to it.

These are all mere hypotheses and should not be taken as facts.

[wm_hunter]

Did I ever say they should? I was just making a summary of the book with all the "shocking" parts that have the RCH so angry with Dan Brown. Even if none of the facts are true (and there are some that are, keep reading), reading the book does make you think.

The parts that are factual and common information are

When the Catholic Church compiled the Bible, they left out testaments and omitted parts from it.

Da Vinci invented many of the coding methods mentioned in the book.

Many of the inconstancies in the paintings inside of the book have been talked about by scholars and patrons of the arts for years.

RCH = Roman Catholic Church

[Venom]

just them boycotting the movie and book is something to think about or atleast it makes the church look as if it has something to hid i think the church is just gonna make them look bad by boycotting a movie about some information on the church

[FraterPerdurabo]

Did I ever say they should? I was just making a summary of the book with all the "shocking" parts that have the RCH so angry with Dan Brown. Even if none of the facts are true (and there are some that are, keep reading), reading the book does make you think.

The parts that are factual and common information are

When the Catholic Church compiled the Bible, they left out testaments and omitted parts from it.

Da Vinci invented many of the coding methods mentioned in the book.

Many of the inconstancies in the paintings inside of the book have been talked about by scholars and patrons of the arts for years.

RCH = Roman Catholic Church

Not saying that you were implieing that they were true. It's just that people should not take it as a factual book, because after all, they are merely presenting their hypotheses.

[Metalhead Steve]

Yeah, even though it's fictional, it has alot to teach us though.

[Tiras]

The church is stupid. Why the **** should they care? IT'S A FRICKING FICTIONAL MOVIE!

[Metalhead Steve]

The point is not all of it is fictional man.

[wm_hunter]

If you want to look into other Dan Brown books…

Deception Point: A meteor hits the earth with organisms that have never been seen on Earth. Other twists to it as well.

Angels & Demons: Have not red myself. Prelude to The Da Vinci Code

Digital Fortress: About the NSA.

I really liked Da Vinci and Deception Point, both kind of have their own style. If you ever read Ludlum or Clancy, Decpetion is a lot like that, very well done. Digital was a good book, but not as good as DaVinci\Deception. Plan on reading Angels & Demons soon.

He does a lot of research into his books before writing them, which is very evident in Digital Fortress (as well as Da Vinci), which has a lot to do with terrorists code cracking and other NSA stuff.

Don’t get me wrong, Fortress is a good book. Just not as good as The Da Vinci Code.

[Tap]

If you want to look into other Dan Brown books…

Deception Point: A meteor hits the earth with organisms that have never been seen on Earth. Other twists to it as well.

Angels & Demons: Have not red myself. Prelude to The Da Vinci Code

Digital Fortress: About the NSA.

I really liked Da Vinci and Deception Point, both kind of have their own style. If you ever read Ludlum or Clancy, Decpetion is a lot like that, very well done. Digital was a good book, but not as good as DaVinci\Deception. Plan on reading Angels & Demons soon.

He does a lot of research into his books before writing them, which is very evident in Digital Fortress (as well as Da Vinci), which has a lot to do with terrorists code cracking and other NSA stuff.

Don’t get me wrong, Fortress is a good book. Just not as good as The Da Vinci Code.

Eh, i picture you more as the Harry potter type. Also i have a question, Many aspects of the bible can be scientificaly proven or Supported. What in the da vinchi code can be?

[FraterPerdurabo]

Just happened to see a documentary on one of Dan Brown's books last night, I think that it was Angels and Demons (I have not read the books personally). Anyway, it was the one about the Illuminati and the murders of the cardinals. They managed to disprove it as a load of nonsense, since Dan Brown presents false information in order to make a good storyline. For example:

Dan Brown supposedly claims that this statue of a dove on top of an obelisk is non-christian and related to the illuminati blabla, while in fact, the dove IS a christian symbol (cannot remember what it stood for), and also it's on the crest of the family that built that obelisk.

Personally, I have not read Dan Brown's books for exactly that reason. I really do not enjoy reading fiction any more (unless it's an amazing classic, such as Kafka, Chehov [spelling?]). This however, is a topic that interests me nevertheless, so I read other books, such as I mentioned above: "The temple and the lodge" and "The holy blood and the holy grail".

[Z3R0]

Doesn't he have another book? I think it is called The Secrets of Angles, Demons, and the Free Masons.

[I Got Mail]

I saw the movie today and it very accurately follows the book. It's hard to believe something that contradicts something that you were taught from an infant. But then again, having new information makes you think about it and questions all that you've learned before and that is what makes Dan Brown's books and the movie very interesting. Really though, if they do prove it somehow, that their is a living descendant of Jesus Christ, that will not disprove anyones faith. It may change the lives of that person and the people close to them. And if they are in hiding their really is no point other then the Catholic Church may be afraid to face change. They are like newlyweds that are not ready to accept that life is hard and there are changes that will happen and they need to accept it. But if Jesus did have a wife, there is no problem in that, the CC accepts marriage and then the right of sexual acts in the home thereafter. Maybe or maybe not Mary Magdelin was a prostitute, but why include a prostitute in the story of Jesus if there was no point in having her. This is what makes the book and the movie very compeling to those who read and watch them. It contradicts what you believe already and gives new information that questions the people and groups that are supposed to be almighty in how you run your life. Just my 2 cents. Oh, incase you think i'm a perfect christian or something, NOT EVEN CLOSE.

[FraterPerdurabo]

I saw the movie today and it very accurately follows the book. It's hard to believe something that contradicts something that you were taught from an infant. But then again, having new information makes you think about it and questions all that you've learned before and that is what makes Dan Brown's books and the movie very interesting. Really though, if they do prove it somehow, that their is a living descendant of Jesus Christ, that will not disprove anyones faith. It may change the lives of that person and the people close to them. And if they are in hiding their really is no point other then the Catholic Church may be afraid to face change. They are like newlyweds that are not ready to accept that life is hard and there are changes that will happen and they need to accept it. But if Jesus did have a wife, there is no problem in that, the CC accepts marriage and then the right of sexual acts in the home thereafter. Maybe or maybe not Mary Magdelin was a prostitute, but why include a prostitute in the story of Jesus if there was no point in having her. This is what makes the book and the movie very compeling to those who read and watch them. It contradicts what you believe already and gives new information that questions the people and groups that are supposed to be almighty in how you run your life. Just my 2 cents. Oh, incase you think i'm a perfect christian or something, NOT EVEN CLOSE.

It doesn't contradict shit, it's a fictional book, based *AROUND* a few facts and hypotheses.

[Mozzy]

the da vinci code is one hellof a good marketing idea and that's probably it. if there is fact to the mergovingian king line started by jesus and the church destroyed the proof then we won't know for several thousand years. it took the church i think like 600 years to repeal the expulsion of galleleo from italy for saying the sun is in the middle of the solar system.

every single thing surrounding the da vinci code is a bestseller. the "factual" story, the de-bunking of the "factual" story, the fiction story, and the de-bunking of the fictional story are all best sellers. this is why it's so big because people think it's so fascinating. personally i could see jesus and mary and all that and it's one hell of a story. but i really don't believe either stories.

i also saw that history channel show that said teh priory of sion and the whole merovingian king line/jesus stuff was a complete setup created in 1309 or somesuch. so that could be why even the fictional (told as factual) story still have so much mystery to it because it's pretty damn old to start with.

i think what someone was refering to earlier was the gnostic texts when he said the catholic church was hiding documents. i've read that those texts are incomplete and in many places it's like half incomplete. such as...gnostics quote one of the texts as "jesus loved mary and treated her great in front of his disciples and kissed her mouth often" (this quote is similar to the actual quote i read but not verbatim) now, the de bunkers of the gnostics say the same quote is actually read like this .. " _____ loved ___ and treated her _____ in front of ______ and ____ her ____ often.) where more than half the text has crumbled to nothing in the last 2000 years.

anyway...