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This guide should be decent i haven't tried it out yet but i used to have a godly summoner and this is generally what i did.
Ok now here’s what you going to do. Remember this isn’t going to be perfect because I’m not trying it out and I haven’t made a nec in a bit. I’m going to put up two different gears because I don’t know whether your “rich” or not.
Cheaper Gear: Shield-Homunculus
Weapon-Arm of King Leoric
Armor-Skin of the Vipermagi
Helm-Harlequin Crest
Amulet-Mara's Kaleidoscope
Boots-Marrowwalk
Belt-Arachnid Mesh
Gloves-Trang Gloves
Rings-Stone of Jordan, Wisp/Ravonfrost
Rich Gear: Shield- Homunculus
Weapon-HOTO/Arm of King Leoric(up to you I personally like HOTO)
On Switch-CTA and Spirit
Armor- Breast Plate Enigma
Helm-Harlequin Crest
Amulet-Mara's Kaleidoscope/Good Hacked Ammy
Boots-Marrowwalk
Belt-Arachnid Mesh
Gloves-Trang Gloves
Rings-Stone of Jordan, Wisp/Ravonfrost OR 2xSOJS
Inventory-Anni, Torch, Summon GC’s, fhr sc’s, life sc’s
Skills- 20 Skele
5-10 Mage
20 Skele Mast
5 into golem of your choice. I suggest clay or **iron.
20 Amp Damage
15 corpse explosion
5 Summon Resist
5 Golem Mastery
NO REVIVE!
5 Iron Maiden
5 Life Tap
1-3 Lower Resists
Stats: Strength-enough for items
Dex-enough for a decent Block Rate
Vit-Rest
Mana-30ish
Merc: I would get an act 2 merc with might aura. I think it’s norm or hell offensive. It will boost your skeles damage sooooo much.
I suggest you do the anya quest in the acts you plan on doing because if you go into the pindle portal than you can quickly pull out 15 skeles because all of the corpses are on ground. and to do massive damage. when you have all of the skeles out and alot of hard monsters than use the corpse explosion because it can do alot of damage.
Well that’s my build if it works out for you tell me about it. Odds are it won’t work out correctly the first time because you’ll have to tweak it or so. So I suggest you level up 2 chars so that if you mess one up you’ll be able to go straight to the other one. Tell me how it works out for you.
P.S. this is my first guide so please give feeback to tell me what you think and how you think it'll do
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BP eni? Since 1.11, you don't use BPs anymore, definately go for MP.
STR enough for gear? That'll be 0 if you use Eni.
Rings - SoJs only.
15 in CE is a waste, 1 point does the job.
All of those points in curses are such a waste. Find a wand that gives you the curse that you need, and make White out of it.
Why no points in revives? Skele mastery is a synergy for revives, so you might as well put 1 point into revive. With all the +skills, you can easily have 10+ revives.
Just to point out, your skills are a mess from beginning to end, I cannot be bothered to go deeper right now. I think that the item build is fine though. You are also missing out on merc gear. What kind of skelemancer are you going for, safety or damage? These are all things that you should clear up.
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Thanks george, i see some tweaks like around the curse area and small in summening and small in gear and also stats, but other then that its pretty good i think Frater named most of them. Give me a private message some time. If your on the west side NL softcore maybe we will chill. THX again
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05-28-2006, 04:29 PM
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for a great summoner
Um'd shako or Nec Circ
2 sojs
spider
trangs gloves
+2 skele marrowalks
bp enigma
+ 3summon ammy with FCR mod
DF , Boneflame, or Spirit
CTA + spirit
Beast//Hoto
9 summon gcs, nec torch, anni, 20lifers, fhr sc, resist sc's
EDIT EDIT: i forgot skills
Max.. Skeleton, Skeleton Mage, Skeleton mastery, put like 15-20 in Summon resist
put some in revive
put 1 in Amp damage, Iron Madien, and 1 in Decrpify
put 1 in bone armor, other bone skills are for fun only really
MERC ACT2 Nightmare Aura = Might
lvl 21 Aura Bramble
lvl 20 Pride (wep)
Dream helm (iuse andy mask because i havent gotten around to getting a dream)
Or( this is my FUN merc )
Bowamerc
my bow merc uses
Harmony (lvl 10 vigor)
and bramble
u could also put a Merc faith to give ur summons fanti instead of BEAST
I Play West Non-ladder, u can PM me to game, or IM me @ JASON11287
i have 2 summoners, 16gcs 2torchs 2annis between them with weird builds
hope my info helps
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skel mages suck very badly.. why max them? you should only put one point into them
and why not mage pl8 nigma? you will get enough + for it by the other items.
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have u ever played with a summoner casualy and ran into monsters immune to psysical? and summons are summons dude, when pking the more summons around u when u tele the less likely u will get hit
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Well you didnt really say PvP did you? lol and if you are scared of immunes thats why you have 1 point in skel mage and other in corpse explode. alot better then waiting for like 20 skel mages to kill 5 people in 5 min...
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idont like sitting there waiting for weak mages to kill a physical immune, and corpse explosion is a total waste of skill point if ur a PK'r, which my summoners love to do
mages like i will say again, they are Bodies, they are like an armor and unlike revives last for more than 3mins or w/e, and if ur opp is weak in 1 of the resists mages can do that extra damage needed to finish sum1 quickly
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the day one of my duelers loses to a pure summoner is the day i quit diablo. dont make a summoner for dueling...make them pretty much for solo pvm only
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Bloodangel26 Wrote:the day one of my duelers loses to a pure summoner is the day i quit diablo. dont make a summoner for dueling...make them pretty much for solo pvm only
I was just about to say that. Hell, I can imagine just teleing around with my druid and killing the poor buggers with Hurricane.
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i can imagine dueling him with my fireballer and having 1 fb catch him and him and all his skellys die instantly. hammers would do the trick too
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yes so summoners have weakness, isend my sorbadin to face a Trapper or ANy sorc, ull cry after 5mins cuz u wont do anydmg what so ever and i pack about 30k charge dmg, every char has its weakness, summoners are GREAT against melee chars, and fb dont always win either, if i strap on 2 dwarf stars and a hoto the field changes
AND EDIT EDIT
hurricane? LMAO
that weak ass dmg does nothing to a summoner, its the tornado shit that does the damage
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AiM.Rusher Wrote:yes so summoners have weakness, isend my sorbadin to face a Trapper or ANy sorc, ull cry after 5mins cuz u wont do anydmg what so ever and i pack about 30k charge dmg, every char has its weakness, summoners are GREAT against melee chars, and fb dont always win either, if i strap on 2 dwarf stars and a hoto the field changes
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hurricane? LMAO
that weak ass dmg does nothing to a summoner, its the tornado shit that does the damage
Don't be silly, I kill easy MF with Hurricane. It does 3k unblockable cold damage.
Yes, I know that Tornado does the damage, it's just that you have to cast and aim it. 3k Hurricane is enough to kill a bunch of skellies.
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first off, putting all that sorb gear on is BM. 2nd, you still wont ever catch my sorc, so i wouldnt be crying, i'd be laughin at your slow ass. 3rd, even if you put the dwarfs on your necro and could withstand my fb, your skellys wouldnt, they would die, and then i would have to wait for you to go build your weak army again. 4th, where did "sorbadin" come in? you were talking about your necro
edit, whered my avatar come from?
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AiM Rusher i think you lost this one.. + all the way at the top where you said your build NO WHERE IN THERE YOU SAID IT WAS A PvP SUMMENER! Also summener necros are like the worst for PvP even if your goin on melee people like a WW barb or a fury person cuz thats like the only people that are meleeing also a smiter you might win on a smiter and nothing else HANDS DOWN
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i built the summoner for all purpose.. i never stated it was for any 1 thing
and ur sorc may be fast but if ur running away from me how accurate do u honestly think ur gunna be on hitting me? and ive yet to lose to a Melee char.. expect mabey a Rabies Druid, thats about it.. i rarely see those out there, Druids and sorcs arnt
"all powerful" they have there weakness too, barbs and pallys can own them quite easily
u can bash a Summoner all u want but they are good chars, good all around chars, i can rush with a summoner and PK with him, what can a FB sorc do? lol.. what can a druid do? not much else, they are slow in anything else
a summoners weakness is a FB yes of coarse, most people bring in the FB sorc to a PK game after their other char got Pwned by a summoner lol
and a druid is an all around solid pk'r, u guys were the 1's who brought up Sorcs and Druids in the Necro forum, do u see me going in a Druid thread or Sorc thread telling u how much a charge pally can ram a sorc up his ass? i think not lol
EDIT: also ive never lost a Summon to hurricane damage, the only way a Elemental Druid kills a "Summoner" is by teleing ontop of him and using Tornado
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i'm very accurate with my fbs actually. i will telly so much faster than you that i will be able to stop and spam fbs back at you every few tellys. i'll restate this, if ANY of my duelers ever lost to a summoner i would quit. my hammerdin would own you too. you MIGHT be able to kill my smiter, but hes not a dueler, hes built for ubers. if i equiped him to take you, he probably would.
and its NOT PK, its duel.
what can i fire sorc do? mine can rush, hell of a lot faster than your necro(its called infinity), mine can run hell baals, its built for dueling so its obviously good a that, can run chaos with a little help, mf any boss, key run, get quests for weaker chars, pretty much whatever i want.
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Mr Mellow Wrote:a smiter you might win on a smiter and nothing else HANDS DOWN
Charge = 1 hit kill.
Don't know if you have ever duelled any serious Wind Druid, skelemancer, but even if I cannot kill a skeleton with Hurricane (lvl 50), then one of my Tornados will just rip through your lines of skeletons. There are so many that at least one will always be hit, and you have no way of replenishing them. Once they're down, what do you do? Run to town? Probably.
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dude, just give up. I'm new to this forum and the game, yet i can still see you'r losing this battle. LOL
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im not losing this battle, Both my summoners are good and i kno this because i use to PK alot, and PK and Duel are the same thing, PK = Player KILL lol
they are both bashing a Summoner with the chars worst matchup lol
either if u want to bring a Melee char ill be glad to show u how easy it is to lose
its called Iron madien, and even without IM amp dmg does the job just as good lol
like i said i dont go to other character threads and bash them, yes a druid and a fb sorc are good matchups against a summon necro, do u want a cookie? lol
prove my points wrong, bring a necro with only 1 point in skeleton mages and we will see whos Necro is better?
im giving advice to people who are making summoners, do u 2 guys even have a summoner? and if u dont, u shuldnt act like ur Knowlegable about them..
ALSO, ive never once been killed by a FB sorc from long range, only way ive been killed is by direct contact
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