Best Pvp Smiter + Skill?

[FeNiXSuNfIrE]

hey! i know thers alot of threads asking question about smiters, but what in pvp is the best smiter skill combo? like smiter/charge or....what? mayb just pure smiter?

[Bartender]

5 Defiance, 10 salvation, 5 charge.

[FeNiXSuNfIrE]

defiance yes, but why salvation, thats only good for ubers, and charge..yeah..

[Arc]

best combo is deff charge them to stun them then smite their asses, or if ur using an enigma for some odd crazy reason teleport to them and smite them, but charge/smite works best b/c charge stuns them and gives u more time to switch skills

[FeNiXSuNfIrE]

thats what i was planning. how much to charge? just 1?

[FraterPerdurabo]

For a PvP Smiter:
20 Fana
20 Smite
20 Charge
20 Holy Shield
rest Defiance

Why would you put any points into Salvation lol?

[Bartender]

Salvation to stack against foh, sorcs, trappers, w/e. God, you've never met a pvp smiter that used salvation?

[FraterPerdurabo]

Salvation to stack against foh, sorcs, trappers, w/e. God, you've never met a pvp smiter that used salvation?

No I haven't.

Why would you need it vs sorcs and trappers? Smiters have full/stacked resists anyway. VS those chars you need absorb not resists.

VS FoH, your Charge, desynch and tactics are far superior than a little bonus to resists.

Also, 1 point into Holy Freeze.

[Frai7ty]

This has to be one of the most pointless conversation's Iv seen for Smiter's. And, no, I have not seen any smiter with Salvation

[Bartender]

No I haven't.

Why would you need it vs sorcs and trappers? Smiters have full/stacked resists anyway. VS those chars you need absorb not resists.

VS FoH, your Charge, desynch and tactics are far superior than a little bonus to resists.

Also, 1 point into Holy Freeze.

No frater, tatics are inferior than to putting on an aura and sitting there while you take no damage. Diablo 2 isn't about winning, it's about making your opponent e-raged as possible.

[ghammer]

No frater, tatics are inferior than to putting on an aura and sitting there while you take no damage. Diablo 2 isn't about winning, it's about making your opponent e-raged as possible.

lmfao...i still perfer winning,


overall FraterPerdurabo's skills look pretty good

[Ares]

i disagree there is a biuld like foh/smite/charge something like that i think he is a foh with smiter gear so he fohs u down a bit then just charges and finishes you off.. im not sure tho

[ghammer]

called a vindicator/templar they are gg pwnage all around

[FraterPerdurabo]

No frater, tatics are inferior than to putting on an aura and sitting there while you take no damage. Diablo 2 isn't about winning, it's about making your opponent e-raged as possible.

I disagree. I play the game in order to have fun. I don't have to hate my opponent, actually, most of the time, I duel with some of the best duelers in Europe, because I know them well and I get along with them. Or I duel with my clanmates. Occasionally we also have clanwars, but most good clans in Europe are mature enough not to start "the e-rage campaign".

There is nothing skilled about making a char will full resists and full absorb, nor would I find it fun to duel with one.

[RAVE_Haru]

No I haven't.

Why would you need it vs sorcs and trappers? Smiters have full/stacked resists anyway. VS those chars you need absorb not resists.

VS FoH, your Charge, desynch and tactics are far superior than a little bonus to resists.

Also, 1 point into Holy Freeze.

I'm thinking u've never seen the smiters that wear enigma? not everyone has stacked res. 1 pt into salvation goes a long way especially against casters that bring your res down. Not to also mention that your tactic against foh --> charge and desync isnt much of a tactic with namelock, foh isnt supposed to be that dmg'ing anyways especially since its more than a deversion than anything else. Foh and you're still busy thinking about whats going on, next second your "smiten" to death. Tho I hafta say my v/t has a pretty powerful foh so that doesnt apply much haha :p

[FraterPerdurabo]

I'm thinking u've never seen the smiters that wear enigma? not everyone has stacked res. 1 pt into salvation goes a long way especially against casters that bring your res down. Not to also mention that your tactic against foh --> charge and desync isnt much of a tactic with namelock, foh isnt supposed to be that dmg'ing anyways especially since its more than a deversion than anything else. Foh and you're still busy thinking about whats going on, next second your "smiten" to death. Tho I hafta say my v/t has a pretty powerful foh so that doesnt apply much haha :p

I've seen plenty of Smiters that wear Enigma, and it's not for Teleportm it's for the FRW%, +STR and life.

If you are using Salv, where will you get your dam and ias?

Namelock can be avoided my charging off the map, then you're fine. He can namelock you, but if you aren't within area for Conv, he's not going to achieve much.

FoH is a diversion for V/Ts or Hammer/FoHs, I'm speaking of pure FoH.

[RAVE_Haru]

I've seen plenty of Smiters that wear Enigma, and it's not for Teleportm it's for the FRW%, +STR and life.

If you are using Salv, where will you get your dam and ias?

Namelock can be avoided my charging off the map, then you're fine. He can namelock you, but if you aren't within area for Conv, he's not going to achieve much.

FoH is a diversion for V/Ts or Hammer/FoHs, I'm speaking of pure FoH.

I dont think I've stated anywhere that enigma was for the teleport. Actually the teleport is completely irrelevant unless you're facing a necro. As for salv, no one is telling you to max it out. One point in it goes a long way, not to also mention ias and damage (especially) when you are dueling casters is irrelevant, most of them die easily with charge (and I mean only 1 pt in charge, no point in having more than that).

[FraterPerdurabo]

I dont think I've stated anywhere that enigma was for the teleport. Actually the teleport is completely irrelevant unless you're facing a necro. As for salv, no one is telling you to max it out. One point in it goes a long way, not to also mention ias and damage (especially) when you are dueling casters is irrelevant, most of them die easily with charge (and I mean only 1 pt in charge, no point in having more than that).

I don't know if you've ever dueled anyone that's good? I can assure you that there is no way that you can take any of the casters that I am used to dueling (I do private dueling mostly) out with Salvation or with a half-assed build (1 pt in Charge), or without Fana.

A properly built PvP Smiter would not need to use Salv.

[RAVE_Haru]

I don't know if you've ever dueled anyone that's good? I can assure you that there is no way that you can take any of the casters that I am used to dueling (I do private dueling mostly) out with Salvation or with a half-assed build (1 pt in Charge), or without Fana.

A properly built PvP Smiter would not need to use Salv.

LOL the people u think are good may not be as good as u think and vice-versa. Yours is just a pure dmg smite build whereas for someone like myself I hav hybrid builds like V/T and V/S which hav advantages/disvantages over your build. Having 1 point into charge is not in any way a "half-assed" build as you put it. If you've dueled good pvp'ers you would know that having 1 pt into charge is more than enough. Charge isnt meant to be a finisher, why do u need to waste points in it unless you plan to try and use charge as one of your main attacks in every duel.

The way you have your build might be good for you, but no build is fool proof against other builds. Your build, from your skill tree is geared more towards maybe dueling barbs and other high dmg builds, otherwise having points (ie more than 1) into defiance is also pointless.

You say a properly built smiter doesnt need salv? and also where to get dmg? Without fanat on I've still got 2k smite, more than enough to take down casters (when they get stunned from my "half-assed" 1pt into charge). You may think your build is good but there is more than one way to make a good smiter.

[FraterPerdurabo]

LOL the people u think are good may not be as good as u think and vice-versa.

In Europe, we have a clan ladder system, in which most good clans participate. That's how we know who the best on the realm are, because hardly anyone, or no-one at all can beat them.

Yours is just a pure dmg smite build whereas for someone like myself I hav hybrid builds like V/T and V/S which hav advantages/disvantages over your build. Having 1 point into charge is not in any way a "half-assed" build as you put it. If you've dueled good pvp'ers you would know that having 1 pt into charge is more than enough.

I think he quite clearly asked for a Smiter build, so I gave him a Smiter build, and personally, I think that a pure Smiter will beat a V/T. Yes, V/Ts are better vs barbs, etc, but a Pure Smiter can beat a barb with skill.

Charge isnt meant to be a finisher, why do u need to waste points in it unless you plan to try and use charge as one of your main attacks in every duel.

I.e. when tracking down casters, your initial hit will always be Charge, so isn't it much better to do extra damage on the first hit? I mean, tell me the logic behind this: your Smiter has full resists, stacked by maybe 10-20, or so, not more, and now you are dueling a sorc that has, let's say 5 facets. This will lower your resists to ~70%, 50% at worst. What's the ****ing point in sacrifcing IAS and damage so that you can get back to 75% resists. Furthermore, if you only have 1 point in charge and are using Salvation, your Charge damage will be neglible. Doesn't make sense, does it?