Alternative Guide/Advice needed for poor Trapsin

[LTJ]

Hi all,

as the title says, Im after some much needed advice for my Trapsin. Ive found loads of good guides for godly equipped Assas but none for poor noobs like me that I can find (apologies if there are any)

The story for Solclaw so far is:

Lvl 20
going down the usual LS route with syns, SM (eventually) for company and Fade with a touch of BoS
want to eventually Solo hell (if poss)

Ive got some crap/nearly good stuff but woulld like advice on alternative stuff.

Thanks

*This Char is purely for PVM*

[L4E]

uh just get some bartucs,
a treatchery armor,
shako,
tgods,
ravenfrost + dwarf,
a rare ammy or a magic ammy with skills,
some treks,
bloodfists.
tada.

[LTJ]

Thanks for that! I'll see whether I can start trading for that stuff. Ive already got 1 Bartuc (Im gonna use a shield as I cant see me being able to tele anytime soon, so I reckon I need the enhanced defence) and a +2 traps amu so thats a start I suppose rolleyes:

BTW: whats a "treatchery" armour?

thanks again LE4

[Perjury]

Thanks for that! I'll see whether I can start trading for that stuff. Ive already got 1 Bartuc (Im gonna use a shield as I cant see me being able to tele anytime soon, so I reckon I need the enhanced defence) and a +2 traps amu so thats a start I suppose rolleyes:

BTW: whats a "treatchery" armour?

thanks again LE4

Well.. Treatchery is a assn armor, its from the latest 1.11 patch. heres the stats:

[SIZE=-1] 5% Chance To Cast Level 15 Fade When Struck
25% Chance To Cast level 15 Venom On Striking
+2 To Assassin Skills
+45% Increased Attack Speed
+20% Faster Hit Recovery
Cold Resist +30%
50% Extra Gold From Monsters

Rune Combo: [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]Shael + Thul + Lem
Its a nice armor. but if u want a good assn thats not hard to pay for.
Find a +3 or +2 Assn Skills circlet with atleast res or fcr, socket it and put a shael in it.. and for claws.. do 2x +3 Traps claws, Shaeled or if u can afford them: 5/5 Lit dies.

technically a good helm for Assns.. that u can find would be:

Type: Circlet
Rare: Yes
Stats:
+2-3 Assn Skills
20-30%Fcr
20-30+Res
Socketed: 3 or 2 Sockets
Lit Die it. Or Shael it!

[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]Type: Circlet
Rare: No
Magical: Yes
Stats:
+3 Trap Skills
20-30%Fcr
OR
20-30+Res
Socketed: 3 sockets.
Shael It! For Faster Hit recovery

You can find either of these circlets, by simply going to cow or baal runs.. pick up and blue circlet you see. id it and hope its a +3 Trap one. i used to use 1 of these until i got banned.

Others choose a Griffons Eye, or even a Shako With a good rune in it.
Use ur imagineation!
[/SIZE]

[LTJ]

Well.. Treatchery is a assn armor, its from the latest 1.11 patch. heres the stats:

[SIZE=-1]5% Chance To Cast Level 15 Fade When Struck
25% Chance To Cast level 15 Venom On Striking
+2 To Assassin Skills
+45% Increased Attack Speed
+20% Faster Hit Recovery
Cold Resist +30%
50% Extra Gold From Monsters

Rune Combo: [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]Shael + Thul + Lem[/SIZE]

Ahh! thanks for that, I'd never heard of it and thought it was a misspelling or something :o

I havent got those runes (oh, might have Shael I think) so Ill trade for them as well (unless im lucky enough to find someone with a treatchery thats willing to trade, fat chance lol)

would an Assa with this equip be able to solo hell?

[Perjury]

Ahh! thanks for that, I'd never heard of it and thought it was a misspelling or something :o

I havent got those runes (oh, might have Shael I think) so Ill trade for them as well (unless im lucky enough to find someone with a treatchery thats willing to trade, fat chance lol)

would an Assa with this equip be able to solo hell?

Well, With that equip ur talking about. at the top, i dought it. it may be able to kill alot of things it probally wont stand a chance against a boss :p but u could try!

[offtopic]When i first made a trapsin it was horrible, then after awhile of soloing the Den of Evil, i forked a good old 5 Paly combat's and like 7 Necro bone gc's. :p[/Sorry]

So with ur assn, do den runs.. you never know until you try! Wish u luck on ur assn!!

[LTJ]

Well, With that equip ur talking about. at the top, i dought it. it may be able to kill alot of things it probally wont stand a chance against a boss :p but u could try!

[offtopic]When i first made a trapsin it was horrible, then after awhile of soloing the Den of Evil, i forked a good old 5 Paly combat's and like 7 Necro bone gc's. :p[/Sorry]

So with ur assn, do den runs.. you never know until you try! Wish u luck on ur assn!!

Right, Ill do some den runs then! Advice always gladly taken. I guess that I'll have to work out some way of improving my chances of getting better stuff or something confused:

Thanks for your help Perjury

[Perjury]

Right, Ill do some den runs then! Advice always gladly taken. I guess that I'll have to work out some way of improving my chances of getting better stuff or something confused:

Thanks for your help Perjury

It doesnt matter about mf. I Had mf cuse of my gheeds :\ which was a low %.
Its all about luck, my friend yesterday at lvl 60 with noob items found a p combat in den while we were doing quests He dident have mf what-so-ever. so yeah, just go in there and kick some fallen @$$

and ur welcome for the advice, im just trying to help out a fellow player.

[LTJ]

It doesnt matter about mf. I Had mf cuse of my gheeds :\ which was a low %.
Its all about luck, my friend yesterday at lvl 60 with noob items found a p combat in den while we were doing quests He dident have mf what-so-ever. so yeah, just go in there and kick some fallen @$$

and ur welcome for the advice, im just trying to help out a fellow player.

lol! with my luck I reckon Id have trouble finding the Den in the first place! :p

ive got a lvl 86 frost zealot with some decent stuff that has just solo'd hell Diablo so that should be able to do the Den I reckon

[Tap]

Might want to invest some points into Death sentry for PVM
all my pvm sins have Death Sentry cause it owns out the ass especially if you cant afford infinity

[LTJ]

Might want to invest some points into Death sentry for PVM
all my pvm sins have Death Sentry cause it owns out the ass especially if you cant afford infinity

ok, thanks Tap, Ill have a think about that and have a look @ Infinity as well (as I have no idea what it does...rolleyes: )

[splatterghost]

Well.. Treatchery is a assn armor, its from the latest 1.11 patch. heres the stats:

[SIZE=-1]5% Chance To Cast Level 15 Fade When Struck
25% Chance To Cast level 15 Venom On Striking
+2 To Assassin Skills
+45% Increased Attack Speed
+20% Faster Hit Recovery
Cold Resist +30%
50% Extra Gold From Monsters

Rune Combo: [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]Shael + Thul + Lem
Its a nice armor. but if u want a good assn thats not hard to pay for.
Find a +3 or +2 Assn Skills circlet with atleast res or fcr, socket it and put a shael in it.. and for claws.. do 2x +3 Traps claws, Shaeled or if u can afford them: 5/5 Lit dies.

technically a good helm for Assns.. that u can find would be:

Type: Circlet
Rare: Yes
Stats:
+2-3 Assn Skills
20-30%Fcr
20-30+Res
Socketed: 3 or 2 Sockets
Lit Die it. Or Shael it!

[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]Type: Circlet
Rare: No
Magical: Yes
Stats:
+3 Trap Skills
20-30%Fcr
OR
20-30+Res
Socketed: 3 sockets.
Shael It! For Faster Hit recovery

You can find either of these circlets, by simply going to cow or baal runs.. pick up and blue circlet you see. id it and hope its a +3 Trap one. i used to use 1 of these until i got banned.

Others choose a Griffons Eye, or even a Shako With a good rune in it.
Use ur imagineation!
[/SIZE]

Don't use fcr circ's you need ias to cast traps the faster your ias the faster it is to toss out traps try to get a rare circ that gives

res str any other valuble mods get one that has sockets and also has +2 or 3 to assassin skills

[LTJ]

ok splatter, all good stuff thanks to everyone for their help, unfort my broadband @ home has just gone kaput , so itching to try out this stuff (den runs etc) on my little Assa when its fixed...

Just remembered that ive got a Giant Conch (240+ def) with +1 Assa skills and other mods, should do for starters till I find something better

Ive also got a +2 traps Amu, natalyas boots and a bartuc claw, so something to equip her with when she gets higher level, shes basically a meleesin (and owning nml @ the mo) till her traps get good enough to be worth using

[db_jynx]

[SIZE=-1]
Type: Circlet
Rare: Yes
Stats:
+2-3 Assn Skills
20-30%Fcr
20-30+Res
Socketed: 3 or 2 Sockets
Lit Die it. Or Shael it!

[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]Type: Circlet
Rare: No
Magical: Yes
Stats:
+3 Trap Skills
20-30%Fcr
OR
20-30+Res
Socketed: 3 sockets.
Shael It! For Faster Hit recovery

You can find either of these circlets, by simply going to cow or baal runs.. pick up and blue circlet you see. id it and hope its a +3 Trap one. i used to use 1 of these until i got banned.
[/SIZE]

I highly doubt you used to use one of these until you got banned unless it was in 1.09. You can no longer get 3 sockets on A) +skills circlet/tiara/coronet or B) a rare.

Jeweler's is the prefix, and so are the +skills affixes. Additionally, rares must spawn 2os in order to get the 2os, otherwise, you will Larzuk it and get 1. In order to get +2 or +3 assn / 20FCR or 30FRW or w/e other suffix you like and get 2os, you must Larzuk the blue helm and pray for 2os.

Additionally, if you are US_East LTJ, let me know, I can toss some stuff at ya.

And you would use FCR to tele faster with enigma, that's why Trapsins use FCR. You use IAS for faster trap laying, as splatter said. You want to look for +2Assn/20FCR/30FRW/Str/Dex/Res/life/2os helm (some of those mods).

Once again tell us your realm, if you're us-east i can help you out.

[LTJ]

I highly doubt you used to use one of these until you got banned unless it was in 1.09. You can no longer get 3 sockets on A) +skills circlet/tiara/coronet or B) a rare.

Jeweler's is the prefix, and so are the +skills affixes. Additionally, rares must spawn 2os in order to get the 2os, otherwise, you will Larzuk it and get 1. In order to get +2 or +3 assn / 20FCR or 30FRW or w/e other suffix you like and get 2os, you must Larzuk the blue helm and pray for 2os.

Additionally, if you are US_East LTJ, let me know, I can toss some stuff at ya.

And you would use FCR to tele faster with enigma, that's why Trapsins use FCR. You use IAS for faster trap laying, as splatter said. You want to look for +2Assn/20FCR/30FRW/Str/Dex/Res/life/2os helm (some of those mods).

Once again tell us your realm, if you're us-east i can help you out.

crikey! thats a lot of info my little brain...lol

Unfort Im in Euro non-ladd soft (I die FAR to many timesconfused: ) db_jynx, so although your help is gratefully accepted I cant take it up!

Ive never EVER seen a blue helm, or any item for that matter, are they like stupidly rare or what?

Thanks again for the offer though

[db_jynx]

crikey! thats a lot of info my little brain...lol

Unfort Im in Euro non-ladd soft (I die FAR to many timesconfused: ) db_jynx, so although your help is gratefully accepted I cant take it up!

Ive never EVER seen a blue helm, or any item for that matter, are they like stupidly rare or what?

Thanks again for the offer though

lol-

1st of all a "blue helm" as in a Magical helm ie: "Cunning Tiara of the Magus" is a +3 traps / 20%FCR MAGICAL Tiara allowing it to get 2open sockets using the quest given by Larzuk (Act 5 after killing shenk). You are in no way guarunteed 2open sockets, it depends on the level of the monster that dropped the item, luck, and possibly some other stuff (can't look right now, at work).

As far as the other info i was telling you, a trapsin is very effective using Enigma Armor, of course you don't have any means of acquiring enigma at this point. That's why people want 20%FCR on a helm among other gear, to Teleport faster. Traps are not affected by FCR, you increase your trap laying speed with Increased Attack Speed (IAS). The more IAS the faster trap laying (though IAS is not spawned on helms).

So things to look for on a rare:
+2 Assassin / +2 traps
20%FCR (fast cast rate)
30%FRW (fast run walk)
10+ Strength
10+ Dexterity
10+ All Res
20+ Life
10% FHR (fast hit recovery)
2 Open Sockets

On a magical helm, you're really looking for +2assassin or +3traps with 20 %FCR or something else you need (remember only 1 prefix / 1 suffix). Then you want to socket it using Larzuk's quest and pray for 2 open sockets.

Things to socket your helm with:
IDEALLY --> 2 x 15 IAS / 15 ALL RES Jewels, good luck getting these, 10-15 HRs a piece US-East
all res jewels
+str jewels
ias jewels
UM
Jah
Ber

can't really think right now, but you get the idea.

Aim for a nice helm, try imbue some or gambling (i've gambled/imbued some really nice circlets) and of course just getting lucky finding one. Pick up every rare or magical circlet/tiara/coronet and ID it. Also you can "SHOP", as in BUY +3 traps claws, if you spend an hour or so you should be able to purchase some (in hell difficulty) off of Anya, or any other NPC that sells claws. Take your time and purchase 2. Then Larzuk them and pray for 2 open sockets. Insert Jewel/Rune. Make treachery or anything else you can find that's useful, find some Sandstrom Trek boots, or throw on some good rares (3 Resists, 10%FHR, 30%FRW), use Bloodfist gloves (very common), and whatever else you find. GL Bro, i'm sure you'll be doing fine in no time.

[FraterPerdurabo]

db_jynx, I may be wrong on this, but I thought that Trap laying speed is only affected by IAS of claw and skill (BoS), therefore socketing with a 15%IAS/+15allresi jewel would be a waste. That's what I've been told anyway.

LTJ I'm Europe ladder, but I may be able to ask some of my clanmates for NL cheap gear that I could throw out (if they still have any). I won't be home until the 9th, though.

[db_jynx]

[quote=FraterPerdurabo]db_jynx, I may be wrong on this, but I thought that Trap laying speed is only affected by IAS of claw and skill (BoS), therefore socketing with a 15%IAS/+15allresi jewel would be a waste. That's what I've been told anyway.
quote]

that may very well be, would explain the price on +2asn/+3ls/40ias claws. However, what if you 15/15 your claws? would that then affect your trap laying speed?

for you helm, if what frater said is correct, you're best bet would then be to socket it with whatever you can... Str/Res Jewel, Dex/Res Jewel, Um, Jah, Sur, etc... up to you.

[hellsing293]

fcr affects the speed of laying the traps. ias affects the attacking speed of the trap(minion).

also, don't do den runs lol. atleast try pindle or pit runs(easy and much better than den lol)

[Tap]

Infinity (ber+mal+ber+ist)
has level 12 conviction i think. which removes the resistances of the monsters.

but since its kind of expensive is why i suggest Death Sentry.
death sentry has lighting dmg and also corpse explosion, which makes it pretty badass.

also, don't do den runs lol. atleast try pindle or pit runs(easy and much better than den lol)

also ya i dont suggest doing Den runs thats just a total waste. id go with Pit,eldritch,pindle.

Some monsters in the pit will be lighting immune which is where your death sentry could come in handy.