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What level does my mind blast need to be before I see "Swirls over peoples head"
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I heard your supposed to max mind blast in order to see swirls is this true and do I need it for for a pure trapper? I also wanted to know what shadow I should use, I'm completely stupid when it comes to trap sins because this is the first one I'm going to make, I would appreciate any help I could get.
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#2
pvm, pvp?
I could help after you answer that question
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#3
Pvp, I'll show my gear in case anyone thinks I should change it although I dont think I would need too. All of my items are perm (ebayed)...

GRAND CHARMS
7x Trap Lifers
40 Life Trap Skill Grand Charm
40 Life Trap Skill Grand Charm
40 Life Trap Skill Grand Charm
39 Life Trap Skill Grand Charm
39 Life Trap Skill Grand Charm
38 Life Trap Skill Grand Charm
35 Life Trap Skill Grand Charm
2x Trap Faster Hit Recover Grand Charms
12Faster Hit Recovery
12Faster Hit Recovery

SMALL CHARMS
8x Lifer/Mod
20life/11Lightning Res
20life/8Fire Res
20Life/6Lightning Res
20life/10Cold Res
20life/7Cold Res
20life/11Cold Res
20life/8Mana
20life/4Lightning Res

2x Faster Hit Recovery/Resist
5FHR/11Cold Res
5fhr/11fire Res

ANNI Small Charm
20Stat/20Res/6XP

Hellfire Large Charm
20Stat/15Res

ARMOR
2/20/2 MAGICAL TIARA
(2 SIN/20FCR/2 SOCKET *lo/lo*) (Stack)
.08 VALK
Wraith Brands
Perfect Spiderweb Sash
15%ED Mage Plate Enigma
Trang-Ouls Gloves OR Wizardspike gloves, I'll probably go with Trangs because I dont like to be unperm.
35% ebug Spirit monarch for bo.

WEAPONS
Witch-Hunters Scissor Quhab of Transcendence
2 Sin
15ias
18min damage
1 to mind blast
3 to lightning sentry
30 all res
-15 req
(2) socket (15ias/15res and -15req/15res jewels)

Witch-Hunter's Scissors Quhab
2Sin
15ias
2death sentry
1dragon flight
3 lightning sentry
30res
-15 req
(2) socket (15ias/15res and -15req/15res jewels)

6BO CTA

Rings/Amulets
Havok Hold Ring
10fcr/16ar/11DEX/cr6%/FR15%
Entrophy Scarab Amulet
2Sin/19FCR/16mana/regen mana/magic find/gold find
Bitter Band 10fcr/12str/50 mana/59 cold res/15 all/half freeze duration

With all these items I dont need anything in dex or strength I will put it all into vitality. I will also have;

Have around 3.8k LIFE With BO
Hit the 86%FHR Base Point.
Hit the 102%FCR Base Point.
Hit the 60%ias Trap Speed Base Point.
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#4
you rich bastard
my sig! where ever did it go?
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joshzarko Wrote:I heard your supposed to max mind blast in order to see swirls is this true and do I need it for for a pure trapper? I also wanted to know what shadow I should use, I'm completely stupid when it comes to trap sins because this is the first one I'm going to make, I would appreciate any help I could get.
I am not 100% sure about this, but I am quite certain that:
1) Any Mind Blast level will do. Never put more than 1 point into it.
2) Yes, Mind Blast is pure Trapper's main weapon.
3) Do not skill Shadows, waste of points. You should get a claw with +1 Shadow Master.
4) Shadow Master only uses the skills that you have, i.e. you don't have Mind Blast skilled, he won't have it either.

I'm a little tight on time right now, but I'll write something about Trappers in the evening.
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FraterPerdurabo Wrote:I am not 100% sure about this, but I am quite certain that:
1) Any Mind Blast level will do. Never put more than 1 point into it.
2) Yes, Mind Blast is pure Trapper's main weapon.
3) Do not skill Shadows, waste of points. You should get a claw with +1 Shadow Master.
4) Shadow Master only uses the skills that you have, i.e. you don't have Mind Blast skilled, he won't have it either.

I'm a little tight on time right now, but I'll write something about Trappers in the evening.
I see, I heard on d2jsp that you need to max mindblast in order to see swirls in many of the sin guides. I also heard that Shadow Master does not use mind blast as often unless you max mind blast, and that traps work much more effectively when you see swirls so this is false then eh if it isn't is it necessary? I remember my friends trap sin that I used to use every once in awhile it had level one mind blast but I NEVER saw any swirls which I thought was pretty strange at the time because when some other assassins mind blasted me I would see swirls. Also what do swirls do exactly? Do you think you could confirm this for me please? I really need to know, I dont really want to remake my sin if I can avoid it. I would definitely appreciate it if you could help me.
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joshzarko Wrote:I see, I heard on d2jsp that you need to max mindblast in order to see swirls in many of the sin guides. I also heard that Shadow Master does not use mind blast as often unless you max mind blast, and that traps work much more effectively when you see swirls so this is false then eh if it isn't is it necessary? I remember my friends trap sin that I used to use every once in awhile it had level one mind blast but I NEVER saw any swirls which I thought was pretty strange at the time because when some other assassins mind blasted me I would see swirls. Also what do swirls do exactly? Do you think you could confirm this for me please? I really need to know, I dont really want to remake my sin if I can avoid it. I would definitely appreciate it if you could help me.
Once again, I am quite certain that any level on Mind Blast will do. As for the frequency at which Shadow Master uses Mind Blast, I have no idea.

What the "swirls" do and how FHR% generally works:
In order for someone to go into their FHR% frames, you will need to do enough damage to remove at least 1/12 of their health (I believe that's the correct figure), however some barbs, etc have high life and resists so that they don't even go into FHR% when your traps hit them. That's where Mind Blast comes in, because not only does it Stun someone, when the "swirls" appear, it means that each and every hit will send them into FHR frame, even if it's 1 damage by a Raven.
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