Bush, Veto a bill?

[Ares]

The Swamp - Chicago Tribune - Blogs.

Originally posted: April 30, 2007
Bush: 'I am about to veto a bill'Posted by Mark Silva at 2:05 pm CDT
President Bush, poised to veto a $124-billion war spending bill that demands timelines for troop withdrawals from Iraq, plans to meet with congressional leaders on Wednesday to start crafting a war bill that the White House will accept.
“I am about to veto a bill that has got artificial timelines for withdrawal,’’ Bush said today in the Rose Garden. "I have made my position very clear, the Congress chose to ignore it, and so I will veto the bill.’’
The stage for a veto could be set mid-week, when congressional leaders meet with the president at the White House. And neither the House nor Senate, which approved the bill by narrow margins last week, apparently holds the votes to override Bush’s veto.
This could come as soon as Tuesday, when the president plans to travel to the Tampa, Fla., headquarters of the U.S. Central Command which overseas the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
This also will be the fourth anniversary of the day on which the president landed on the deck of an aircraft carrier in the Pacific Ocean and declared that major combat had concluded in Iraq following the U.S.-led invasion in March 2003 – with a banner declaring “Mission Accomplished’’ stretched across the tower of the USS Abraham Lincoln.

More than four years into war, with a 30,000-troop escalation of U.S. forces in Iraq still underway, the White House is refusing to accept any limitation that Democratic congressional leaders hope to impose on U.S. military commanders.
Bush complains that the bill which Congress has approved, demanding the start of troop withdrawals by October and setting a goal of full withdrawal by spring of 2008 “imposes the judgment of people here in Washington on our military commanders and diplomats.’'
The president, joined by German Chancellor Angela Merkel and European Commission President Jose Barroso following a summit for U.S. and European Union leaders, fielded only a few questions from reporters assembled in the Rose Garden today
Nearly three months into a standoff with Congress over supplemental war funding, the president is holding out hope that an agreement can be reached with Democratic leaders, with the president insisting he is “interested in their opinions’’ but nonnegotiable on time-frames.
“I look forward to working with members of both parties to get a bill that doesn't set artificial timetables and doesn't micromanage and gets the money to our troops,’’ Bush said. “I believe that there's a lot of Democrats that understand that we need to get the money to the troops as soon as possible… So I'm optimistic we can get something done in a positive way.’’
Yet the White House maintains that, as much as leaders and the president debate the issue, the central goal of the legislation which congressional leaders spent months crafting is unacceptable to the president: Any prediction of a date by which troops will pull back.
The White House also is urging Congress to go ahead and deliver the bill, so that Bush can veto it as quickly as possible and proceed with talks for an “acceptable’’ bill.
"It's now been passed for five days,’’ Tony Snow, the White House press secretary said Monday, his first day back at work following a month away in which he has charted a course for the treatment of recurring colon cancer that has spread to his liver. Snow, who will start chemotherapy on Friday, has returned with a characteristically combative spirit.
“We're not sure why it's been so difficult to convey it one mile up Pennsylvania Avenue,’’ Snow said of the war spending bill. “I could walk down and pick it up today… But the president understands that people wanted to make a political statement, fine.’’
While Snow maintains that the president “does feel positive and optimistic that we’ll get an acceptable bill, Snow also had this message for Congress: “Let's go ahead and get on with this… A clear veto message has been out for over a month. A symbolic vote has taken place… Come back and do your real work and get the bill passed.''

[Mathalamus]

haha bush is stupid and unpopular nowadays

[Pamela]

haha bush is stupid and unpopular nowadays

Actually that would be YOU Math.Bush runs a REAL government and has world wide impact,whereas YOU on the other hand have a pretend Republic,and can not even manage THAT with any degree of success.

Get back to Bush bashing when you have something more to add other than a pointless post. I support the troops and I think withdrawls at this point or time lines are a pointless waste.

Time lines will only bolster enemy moral,strategies and activities,while de-moralizing OUR troops.

If you have nothing useful to add to the topic at hand...stay the hell out of this thread.
Thank you!

[Ragnarhox]

Actually that would be YOU Math.Bush runs a REAL government and has world wide impact,whereas YOU on the other hand have a pretend Republic,and can not even manage THAT with any degree of success.

He may run a real government but he does a poor job of it.

Math was right; If you have ever watched Bush speak he obviously isn't very smart. And polls have show his approval rating drop lower and lower since his election.

[Pamela]

His polls drop from public perception of the war. He is very intelligent but sucks ass at public speaking. He is simply NOT one of those men that can stand in front of the press and speak unprepared.I have always been fortunate that I am both charasmatic and a good orater in public.
Saddly our president lacks this.
He is on his way out ,so the next decisions will be up to the elected administration.

[unknowndrummer6]

how is he intelligent?

[Nubli]

First of all I know this thread is rather old, but I feel I have to say something. He's still veto'ing bills left and right so it's rather current I'd say. Hopefully Pamela reads this.

Actually that would be YOU Math.Bush runs a REAL government and has world wide impact,whereas YOU on the other hand have a pretend Republic,and can not even manage THAT with any degree of success.

Get back to Bush bashing when you have something more to add other than a pointless post. I support the troops and I think withdrawls at this point or time lines are a pointless waste.

Time lines will only bolster enemy moral,strategies and activities,while de-moralizing OUR troops.

If you have nothing useful to add to the topic at hand...stay the hell out of this thread.
Thank you!

I just /facepalm'd myself IRL. This has got to be the most misinformed statement ever.

First of all, going for a personal attack on Math while on the veto subject was lame and uncalled for. His little factoid was more truthful than the garbage you just spit out.

Secondly, how will a time line bolster our enemy moral? If you didn't already know, they WANT us there. It gives them a chance to attack us on their ground. Note, the amount of terrorist occupants has increased in Iraq and Iran since the war started. They flocked to those countries for a chance to hit our troops, and it's working.

Now how does a time line de-moralize our troops? Nobody wants to be in the middle east anymore. The only people lately that I've heard saying they want to go to Iraq are the high school dropouts with no choice for college because they think they can't do it without the armed forces help to pay for it. Why don't you go spend a year in Iraq and tell me you wouldn't want to come home within 2 weeks.

His polls drop from public perception of the war. He is very intelligent but sucks ass at public speaking. He is simply NOT one of those men that can stand in front of the press and speak unprepared.I have always been fortunate that I am both charasmatic and a good orater in public.
Saddly our president lacks this.
He is on his way out ,so the next decisions will be up to the elected administration.

His polls have dropped because he doesn't listen to the public. He is not intelligent, he's run numerous oil companies into the ground and hit the Texas Rangers baseball team square in the nuts when he owned the team. His public speaking abilities only exemplify this. He might be more popular if **** Cheney were to shoot himself in the face, because he's the real mastermind behind the administration.

If you have nothing but personal angst to add to the topic at hand, don't post at all.

[unknowndrummer6]

First of all I know this thread is rather old, but I feel I have to say something. He's still veto'ing bills left and right so it's rather current I'd say. Hopefully Pamela reads this.



I just /facepalm'd myself IRL. This has got to be the most misinformed statement ever.

First of all, going for a personal attack on Math while on the veto subject was lame and uncalled for. His little factoid was more truthful than the garbage you just spit out.

Secondly, how will a time line bolster our enemy moral? If you didn't already know, they WANT us there. It gives them a chance to attack us on their ground. Note, the amount of terrorist occupants has increased in Iraq and Iran since the war started. They flocked to those countries for a chance to hit our troops, and it's working.

Now how does a time line de-moralize our troops? Nobody wants to be in the middle east anymore. The only people lately that I've heard saying they want to go to Iraq are the high school dropouts with no choice for college because they think they can't do it without the armed forces help to pay for it. Why don't you go spend a year in Iraq and tell me you wouldn't want to come home within 2 weeks.



His polls have dropped because he doesn't listen to the public. He is not intelligent, he's run numerous oil companies into the ground and hit the Texas Rangers baseball team square in the nuts when he owned the team. His public speaking abilities only exemplify this. He might be more popular if **** Cheney were to shoot himself in the face, because he's the real mastermind behind the administration.

If you have nothing but personal angst to add to the topic at hand, don't post at all.

no one could have said it better i give props man