Micheal Moore's Sicko. What do you guys think.

[bigdeath]

That top security clearance thing was just what I needed pam lol lol lol!!! I haven't had a good laugh all day. That crap might work with all these 5th graders around here, but your talkin to grown folk now. How can you not blame the guy? He was the main protagonist in this little predicament we're in. Why go after Iraq when you got N. Korea and Iran both flaunting operating uranium centrifuges? And just so you know, the opinion of someone that has to fabricate shit to make up for a lack of concrete evidence (and intelligence for that matter, but we'll just keep this one between you and me) ain't worth a god damned wooden nickel.

[Pamela]

Wait...you are grown? mmm could have fooled me...and yes I do have a Top Secret Clearence...to work in Military Intelligence it is required. I could give a shit less if you believe me or not,mainly because I do not give a damn what you think.

I see this turning into flame against me and not about topic at all...we have established I do not agree with you...your points IMO are weak... even in the Steam Room there are rules.

[bigdeath]

It was merely a rebuttal to your previous statement. How can you condemn me for my comment when you did the exact same thing. Its this clouded sense of judgment I think that lead you to vote for who you did. And come now. A top security clearance? Pam you genuinely are a crazy ass old woman.

[Ragnarhox]

and yes I do have a Top Secret Clearence...to work in Military Intelligence it is required. I could give a shit less if you believe me or not,mainly because I do not give a damn what you think.

He, and anyone else, has a good point to doubt your top secret clearence. Can't really prove that to some one over the internet. If I went on diablo(or WoW or any game) right now I bet you I could find 100's of people that clame to work for blizzard.

[Halcyon]

It doesn't matter to whether it's real or not. Who cares, she has access in the government, and I assume she'd rather keep it that way and not have a huge overhaul of the military with a Democrat or someone against the war coming into power. The only people asking questions on those YouTube debates were Democrats, and only one rebublican was able to get past the Bible's preaching and say he would allow same sex marriages. Rebublican voters want the government to do the work and have complete faith in our President, too bad that isn't working. Democrats to an extent actually want to play a part. That's why they want to ask questions.

I find the Bible bullshit. Who gives a shit if I masterbate, most of the sperm won't fertilize the egg even when I am having sex.

Let's step back from just Republican's and Democrats, lets just say that 'intelligent people' want to play a part in how our government works past just voting.

[bigdeath]

I once wanted to hire a butler and change my last name to Bates so my servant would have to call me Master Bates.

[Pamela]

Ok that was way off topic but actually funny.It is close to the election and many people are getting heated and emotional about it.My Mom once told me she doesn't vote because she feels good about not being responsible for whichever clown was in office.

I came back with this"Oh ,but you ARE...he is there because you didn't make your choice known...now don't complain to me about who is elected...you CHOSE not to participate"

As for my clearance it is real,my husband has one as well.I would give you his phone number to ask him,but hell I have a hard time getting him....his cell phone is just stupid and doesn't show missed calls for like 3 days.

On a side note I commend you for being ten times more mature after I banned you than Zerokool was.He started hate threads even if he got a simple infraction.

[bigdeath]

Well thanks for that I guess. I'm kind of off and on on here anyway so it only pissed me off initially. But as for the war thing. I know marines there right now and every single one of them say its a lost cause and a pointless battle. Why are we even there for christ's sake.

[Pamela]

Think about it hun...they are serving the country they love...and on a mission they were ordered to go to. They may not understand the politics involved in WHY they were ordered there...but as men and soldiers they serve without question. Hence why we know them as servicemen. They are there to make a strong presence known in an unstable area.

IMO it never WILL be stable...they(Iraqis) have too much fun killing each other along with women and children.It is the fanatic mindset of the seperate religions we will never defeat.

My husband just recieved orders last week for training and possibly could be drawn back in to active service at any time.

[bigdeath]

All I know is this. I will never blindly walk into anything I don't understand. Call me old fashioned but I am a man of reason and I tend to want to understand something before I lay my life on the line for it. I would serve jail time or leave the country if I was to be forced to fight for something I don't see reason in. Too bad the rest of the nation are sheep that allow themselves to be led to the slaughter and don't have this same philosophy. The government treats us like idiots in such an unambiguous way these days and its absolutely sickening. Think about this. I pay ss tax on my check. I will never see any ss money cause the program will become broke before I become elgible for benefits, so they say. Yet we have the money to just haphazardly start a war with any nation the presidents dart hits when he throws it at a globe. We give money to people that burn our flag on the streets yet people in our nation starve and they are turned away because our nation says that it cannot afford to feed them. It's sick what they expect us to believe.

[Pamela]

What is sick is the Democrats trying to bash the War and the President for their own political gain.They do not want recent wins over there to be made public because it would hurt their campaign platform.

You do not see any Democratic poiliticians going hungery or giving anything out of their fat paychecks to the needy. No ,you see them in nice suites and driving expensive cars.It always struck me as ironic how they would vote in raises for themselves,and then get around to important issues.

[bigdeath]

It's sad that anyway you go there's not going to be a "corruption free" Washington. But I would rather see people get what they want done through congress rather than through war. This whole ordeal was just Bush trying to help out some buddies. Why did he help Bin Laden's family out of the county? The whole thing just smells. And even if you do have privy government information, why would Bush go around telling the people that work for him his true intentions. Those are probably the people that he lies to the most. If there was a good reason for him to be there right now you'd figure he would use that to justify his presence there rather than just accepting the low approval rates from both citezens and congress. It just doesn't make sense.

[Pamela]

Why should he fret over low approval ratings? This is his last term in office and he is NOT going to cower to politicians,but follow his own judgement.As far as not finding anything over there this is also a falsehood spread by his dissenters to further their own careers and swallowed hook line and sinker by their constituents that simply do not know any better.

You do not plan military service ,so you have no worries of ever being sent to fight.
Many that are their and fighting do NOT want to tuck tail and leave.It simply sends the wrong message that their terrorist acts can be gotten away with.

I find it quite interesting how many wealthy Muslims have contributed to Democratic Congressman,into the millions of dollar range.

[Ragnarhox]

What is sick is the Democrats trying to bash the War and the President for their own political gain.They do not want recent wins over there to be made public because it would hurt their campaign platform.

You do not see any Democratic poiliticians going hungery or giving anything out of their fat paychecks to the needy. No ,you see them in nice suites and driving expensive cars.It always struck me as ironic how they would vote in raises for themselves,and then get around to important issues.

Would think you were Micheal Moore the way you debate. There are no Democrats OR Republicans going hungry. It's bullshit to say that one side gets payed off when indeed both sides are bought and sold. You make it sounds as if Republicans never destroy others to build themselves up.

[Pamela]

Would think you were Micheal Moore the way you debate. There are no Democrats OR Republicans going hungry. It's bullshit to say that one side gets payed off when indeed both sides are bought and sold. You make it sounds as if Republicans never destroy others to build themselves up.

You are correct they are ALL bought and sold.But Democrats saying that they stand for the*Little man* is hogwash,and the Republicans that are ONLY interested in big business all sicken me. It truly is difficult to find a politician genuinely interested in helping the public anymore.

[Ragnarhox]

You are correct they are ALL bought and sold.But Democrats saying that they stand for the*Little man* is hogwash,and the Republicans that are ONLY interested in big business all sicken me. It truly is difficult to find a politician genuinely interested in helping the public anymore.

Still, you bother using Dem/Rep. It's not like every Dem(or rep) proclaims themselves for the majority of citizens(or all for big business). Most are only there to help themselves. The only person that really stands out for the country is Republican Dr. Ron Paul. And I don't understand how you can say you hate republicans that are all about big business yet still believe GWB is a good president/ person/ w/e.

[bigdeath]

Pam do you not remember? The weapons inspector himself was the one that said there were no weapons there. Talk about taking it hook line and sinker. Honestly now Pam. Other than financial and business reasons why would Bush only go after Iraq when you have other nations actually testing weapons and saying that "The U.S. is not the only nation entitled to a pre-emptive strike". Then Iran with their uranium centrifuges. Just like Barack Obama said. "Terrorist are abroad. They do not reside soley in Iraq." To focus all your attention on that nation alone would be like Lincoln only going after Tennesee in the civil war. The whole strategy is a foolish one perpetrated by a foolish man. And no amount of privy information can disprove that simple fact.

[Pamela]

The weapons found were gases used againt civilians,entire towns were found dead.

No nuclear could be located but it is a fact that the inspectors were often hindered and weapons moved.They have evidence of this. Attention is not focused soley on that country,many things go on in the background.

I do not hate Republicans,just do not like those that think big business is the most important agenda.


As for Bush I voted for him twice and my only problem with him is he is a horrid public speaker and often sounds retarded stumbling over words.

My husband still keeps contact with many buddies still active and there is much that never makes the news.

[slashbomb]

I haven't seen this movie because it was only shown for a couple of weeks at my theater and I missed it

But I heard about it on Jay Leno where he had Michael Moore in a interview. I thought to remarks were very true, we should have a free health care system where we should be treated for health care at anytime so we can not worry about the costs.

The 9/11 workers, yes they deserve better and way more benefits for their sacrifices.

And The Sicko card - very funny. If your denied something due to health insurance, just show your Sicko card and he'll put you in the movie, ahahahahah. There's a site for this.

Overall, I will definitely be seeing this movie.

[Dan]

The weapons found were gases used againt civilians,entire towns were found dead.

No nuclear could be located but it is a fact that the inspectors were often hindered and weapons moved.They have evidence of this. Attention is not focused soley on that country,many things go on in the background.

I do not hate Republicans,just do not like those that think big business is the most important agenda.


As for Bush I voted for him twice and my only problem with him is he is a horrid public speaker and often sounds retarded stumbling over words.

My husband still keeps contact with many buddies still active and there is much that never makes the news.

Mass graves only outdone by the holocaust have been found in iraq, and it is true that saddam used gas to destroy entire cities of his enemies, children, women, everyone in a village or city he targeted was killed by weapons of mass destruction, which is not solely nukes, but also chemical and biological weapons. WMD's WERE found in iraq, just not nukes.