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Metal Gear Solid film...*sigh
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Well, as many of you Metal Gear Solid fans have most likely heard, theres been confirmed speculation of the film adaptation, for over the last year. After playing Metal Gear Solid 4, I decided to rehash my interests in the game-to-film project and decided to search the web on what people have heard regarding directors, producers, and even actors. Theres alot of fueds circling around as to who should cast the role of the characters, who should produce it, who should be actively involved, and even if the movie should be worth making into a live-action film, or if it should just be completely done in CGI. I wanna hear what your guys opinions are (please, if the MGS hardcore fans will post here in respect to the game series) and who you think should be involved and what should be done about this. My opinions and questions of your's also upon this include:

1) Using David Hayter as the character of Solid Snake, in what hollywood makeup effects can do nowadays, its possible to make him have the physique and facial appearance as the game character.

2) Having Hideo Kojima, direct alongside with another director, ( Dual Director film).

3) If David Hayter shouldn't be casted, the following actor's have been brought up: Russell Crowe, Christian Bale, Viggo Mortenson, Kurt Russell ( Snake was based upon this actor in the 80's), Thomas Jane, and Hugh Jackman. Which do you think would be a better actor for the role?

4) Which game installment should be depicted in the film? Rumors circulating that Alaska will be used as filming location and may be depicting the events of Shadow Moses, from MGS1.

Please, I hope this thread takes in alot of feedback, as I am a devoted fan to this series. Thanks Big Grin
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Frankly I'm not a big MGS fan, I loved the original Metal Gear games and Metal Gear Solid but the second MGS kind of ruined things for me.

However...

Actor:
Kurt Russel is probably the best man for the job. As you said Solid Snake is based off of Snake Plissken (Escape from New York and Escape from LA). If not him then I'd give it to Viggo Mortenson, he's proven time and again he can adapt his appearance to increase his bad assery level x10.

Director:
I'd probably want someone like Paul Greengrass (The Bourne Trilogy). He has a very gritty style with a great eye for action sequences and not to mention amazing story telling, something rare in action directors.

Producer:
Doesn't really matter to me as long as they have the money a movie like this would need and give the director the creative freedom he'd need.
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SpoonMan999 Wrote:Frankly I'm not a big MGS fan, I loved the original Metal Gear games and Metal Gear Solid but the second MGS kind of ruined things for me.

However...

Actor:
Kurt Russel is probably the best man for the job. As you said Solid Snake is based off of Snake Plissken (Escape from New York and Escape from LA). If not him then I'd give it to Viggo Mortenson, he's proven time and again he can adapt his appearance to increase his bad assery level x10.

Director:
I'd probably want someone like Paul Greengrass (The Bourne Trilogy). He has a very gritty style with a great eye for action sequences and not to mention amazing story telling, something rare in action directors.

Producer:
Doesn't really matter to me as long as they have the money a movie like this would need and give the director the creative freedom he'd need.

Yeah, I could agree with you wholeheartedly about MGS2. Don't get me wrong, it was a great game, but alot of people, including me, wasn't expecting a large gameplay with the introduction of a new major character (Raiden), and maybe that's what fans got mostly agitated with.

I do agree with you on Kurt Russell as well, I've seen him in some films and do like the different sides of a character he can portray. He's very flexible as regards to his acting abilities on-screen. When I heard Viggo's name brought up, I had seen him in "A History Of Violence" and thought he was great in the way he shifted his entire attitudes of his character when made the killing scenes in the beginning. He transitioned himself into a guy going crazy mentally and emotionally, and that's what the character of Snake was also based on, a man constantly changing his outlooks on life as far as he's taking it.

I've never seen the Bourne Trilogy, so I really can't concur with you on that, I don't wanna be an ignorant fool and say things I don't know, but I still think Hideo could make it major if he allowed himself to direct the course of the movie, or they could get, (*thinks to himself*) VerHoeven, the guy who directed Robocop, he also had a gritty way to portray major corporation taking over crime and corruption as well as making gritty predictions on what the future was about, which Metal Gear Solid series had taken place in the future from MGS1 - 4 .
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I played the 4th game through like 4 times. ****ing amazing game. I havent played the 3rd or 2nd as I cant find them anywhere. Screw 1. I read the storyline and I cant stand ps1 graphics.

I would unload in my pants if this movie was confirmed.
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streetsoldier707 Wrote:I've never seen the Bourne Trilogy, so I really can't concur with you on that, I don't wanna be an ignorant fool and say things I don't know, but I still think Hideo could make it major if he allowed himself to direct the course of the movie, or they could get, (*thinks to himself*) VerHoeven, the guy who directed Robocop, he also had a gritty way to portray major corporation taking over crime and corruption as well as making gritty predictions on what the future was about, which Metal Gear Solid series had taken place in the future from MGS1 - 4 .

While I like VerHoeven Robocop was not his vision. Robocop was based on the Frank Miller (The Dark Knight Returns, 300, Sin City) comic of the same name. Robocop was Miller's vision. Personally, I think VerHoeven would be too gory for a MGS film.

As for Hideo, he is the creator/writer/director of the games but he has no experience making films. He should definately be used the way Frank Miller was on the set of Sin City. Frank was on set 24/7 explain the characters to the actors and what was going through their heads at that particular time while Robert Rodriguz (Desperado, Spy Kids, Planet Terror) was setting up the shots.
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BlindMansTicket Wrote:I played the 4th game through like 4 times. ****ing amazing game. I havent played the 3rd or 2nd as I cant find them anywhere. Screw 1. I read the storyline and I cant stand ps1 graphics.

I would unload in my pants if this movie was confirmed.

Well, I don't want to say the wrong thing, the movie hasn't yet been in the final confirmation stages, but it's still categorized as "TBA" and "In-Production". Kojima had stated in 2006 that the film was in development, and it's estimated time of completion would be sometime in 2009, and I believe he has also already negotiated contracts with hollywood companies. I'll find the articles if need-be but I remember hearing them from expo's and gaming promotional clubs.

SpoonMan999 Wrote:While I like VerHoeven Robocop was not his vision. Robocop was based on the Frank Miller (The Dark Knight Returns, 300, Sin City) comic of the same name. Robocop was Miller's vision. Personally, I think VerHoeven would be too gory for a MGS film.

As for Hideo, he is the creator/writer/director of the games but he has no experience making films. He should definately be used the way Frank Miller was on the set of Sin City. Frank was on set 24/7 explain the characters to the actors and what was going through their heads at that particular time while Robert Rodriguz (Desperado, Spy Kids, Planet Terror) was setting up the shots.


And Spoon, your right, VerHoeven would be to graphic I completely forgot about that lol. Metal Gear did have it's moments of gore, but not to the horrific extent of Robocop (opening scene of Peter Weller lol). Maybe his perception of the future could've been taken into account. How about this one, I think it was Andrew Vajna ? (Vajner * ? ) He directed First Blood and Rambo 2/3. He didn't focus on futuristic events, but he did focus upon a mercenary/agent going into combat throughout the film (2nd and 3rd), and First Blood was getting to know the character. Vajna could probably pull it off as far as keeping it an action with a great climax and exposition to the storyline.
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streetsoldier707 Wrote:And Spoon, your right, VerHoeven would be to graphic I completely forgot about that lol. Metal Gear did have it's moments of gore, but not to the horrific extent of Robocop (opening scene of Peter Weller lol). Maybe his perception of the future could've been taken into account. How about this one, I think it was Andrew Vajna ? (Vajner * ? ) He directed First Blood and Rambo 2/3. He didn't focus on futuristic events, but he did focus upon a mercenary/agent going into combat throughout the film (2nd and 3rd), and First Blood was getting to know the character. Vajna could probably pull it off as far as keeping it an action with a great climax and exposition to the storyline.

A film based on the Metal Gear games needs more than your typical action director. Yes, the Rambo films were great but Metal Gear needs a more subtle approach to the action, which is why I suggest Greengrass. Metal Gear has a lot of depth to it's story and I think deserves a more character driven director.
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SpoonMan999 Wrote:A film based on the Metal Gear games needs more than your typical action director. Yes, the Rambo films were great but Metal Gear needs a more subtle approach to the action, which is why I suggest Greengrass. Metal Gear has a lot of depth to it's story and I think deserves a more character driven director.

I just went to go look for Greengrass' filmography, I didn't even realize he directed United 93, gripping movie. Maybe he would be a good choice for directing alongside with Kojima's ideas. What I'm really hoping is that they (Hollywood) doesn't f*ck up another game-to-film transition project, as the way they did with the Resident Evil series. (Excluding RE:Apocolypse, IMO better comparison to the predecessor of the game based, 2/3) I'm just truely hoping Kojima doesn't allow another hollywood betrayal of an amazing game. If there's one movie they can't **** up on, its Metal Gear Solid. I can see how difficult it must be to adapt to the first person interactivity people are used to doing when playing a video game, and turning those experiences into a movie, even though the Metal Gear Solid games have more cutscene time then gameplay time, you still have to compensate for the gameplay and manage to convert that into movie material. It's pretty hard when I think about it now, but all I can do is simply, hope.
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