Does It Happen? Has it Ever?

[tysapha]

In the history of this site running, or any others for that matter, has anything ever been released (application based) here that had the name "dupe" attached to it, and it wasn't malicious? I'm curious? Or are they primarily just methods that 99.9% of the time require some form of lagg and several associates, and are usually patched weeks after public notoriety?

It's intriguing that I can find absolutely not a single Dupe application for "ANY" of the past and current version(s).

I believe I know the answer for this, if any dupe application privately owned was ever released, even for a version that is no longer in commission, it could be reversed engineered and/or integrated into current patches. Which would mean the very demise of the value of items on bnet. And the loss of income for much of the sites selling these little bits of server data for large sums of cash.

I apologize if I come off as cynical in these views. I just see so many damn posts that promise - "NEW DUPE, GET IT NOW." Sure as sh*t it's something f*cked, so finally im asking, has it ever happened? Or am I? We, in fact, wasting our time even clicking on threads that resemble anything close to "Dupe App"? I'd like to think that one day SOMEONE will pop up with something....

Very Amusing, and yet im still so frustrated by these series of facts.

But either way its whatever for me.

And to be honest, im just saying what everyone else is thinking....confused:

[Ares]

Well back in the day I remember when we could all just load up our characters with this loader or editor and take it on battle.net or something like that. This is one of the first Patches. ( im sure someone will come along and give you more info on that)

But as far as LEGIT dupes... yes.
There was once a guy on here who asked for help with his dupe, so I said what the hell hes gotta be scamming so Ill just report and ban him right, but he ended up being serious.

I gave him a wand to dupe and he gave me like a full stash of the same wand, it was insane, so after staying up for 11 hours duping non stop. It got patched, he payed 200 dollars for that dupe lmao.

oh and also we had a lag dupe, which everyone used. Necro/Meteor

[tysapha]

I see. Okay, was just making sure they EVEN exist.

Wouldn't want to waste my time searching for something that doesn't...

[Ares]

oh now a days... most likely wont find one unless your willing to pay...
but even then its still risky..

[hellsing293]

My advice would be to not pay $200 for a dupe.

I'd rather get a really good h-din and bot nonstop, 24/7 and get legit items. The dupe you buy might not even work or get patched anyways. You won't find one for free if that's what you're trying to do; many people would be duping if it was that easy! Good luck to your pursuits though.

[Ael.Sys666-D)A(]

The day when corrupt B.net employees and D2 Item stores allow a dupe to be released into the immature public of D2, is the day when I go back to using ZMH on Sc for good.

Disclaimer: I don't support everything I say in sarcasm.

Disclaimer to the Disclaimer: Nor do I agree with everything I post.

[tysapha]

The day when corrupt B.net employees and D2 Item stores allow a dupe to be released into the immature public of D2, is the day when I go back to using ZMH on Sc for good.

Disclaimer: I don't support everything I say in sarcasm.

Disclaimer to the Disclaimer: Nor do I agree with everything I post.

confusing...but noted.

LOL!!

anywase, its apparent everyone knows whats up. Its just almost like there's this sick vibe of "I dunno" e-radiating from the individuals who HAVE obtained the knowledge.

I mean lets be honest Diablo 2 and its entirety is merely almost finished. Cause im pretty sure D3 will swoop whats left of the D2 section of things. (I admit I could very well be wrong about that)

I just hope that one day, you can create like a pvp only character (such as with guild wars) and you have more ITEM options. You dont have to scourge the realms hoping for that 0.0003 chance of that RARE/UNIQUE item dropping, just might happen for you....

Its for these reasons, that Ive simply traded my D2 account (with items) for a GW one, where the game is unhackable xD. Yet I have another with CD keys should I decide to return.

To be honest, the game is almost like not a game no more.

The items have become the currency (not gold lol), and the shops that control most of said items, treat it like there the f*cken mafia and sh*t.
Ive seen the most, pathetic, non-important time consuming conflicts over these little piece of sh*t server side based data items. TBH - im sick of it....

Thats pretty much the point im getting too...lol

Yet you all can have knowledge that equality in even closed realms for D2 is impossible. Cause there will be ones who can gain on the very urge. And theres ones that have to hope for that 0.0003 chance...

Its Very Cynically Amuzing.....rolleyes:

Which is why Ive absolved myself from these facts.

and for the record, I define myself as the "general" public. But I will not tolerate being defined immature merely cause I fit your stereotypes.

but I do understand the overall gist of what you mean.

You are correct, it WOULD be abused...(I assume is the overall reason)

[FraterPerdurabo]

Interesting. I like your approch.
To be perfectly frank, I don't think that anyone's ever posted a "dupe" that has been legit that involved you to download a file.
On the other hand, it's also notable to see how an avarage D2 player can become a cum-hungry crackwhore at the merest hope of rags to riches.
Ah the human mind.

On what you said about gameplay:
Different kinds of people want different kinds of gameplay. You might not like the fact that an item only has a 0.00003% drop chance, however on the other hand, that is what keeps many people playing.
There's a whole bunch of little meta-games that I am absolutely certain that Blizzard didn't exactly have in mind at the making of the game, but they keep people playing.
-trading. There are so many people that don't even play the game, yet they trade on a daily basis, over d2jsp and other trading forums, even ingame.
-character development. Diablo allows for a lot of min-maximization, which is what keeps people playing. An absolutely perfect character will cost 10s of thousands of FG, however striving for that is what keeps people playing.
-the community, created by the two points above.
-ladder resets and the resulting:
-experience grinding. Level 99 is so far away, yet you see people who achieve it all the time. Makes it a goal that people strive for.
-and of course hacking.

Make of it whatever you will.

[hellsing293]

Well said Frater. I would also like to note that one of the joys of playing Diablo is mfing for an hour and finding all shit, then all of the sudden getting those super 1337 drops of Meph when you least expect it. Having a public dupe would make things too easy. Noobs would be the ones using Enigmas that are 1def off perfect, and uber diablo would walk every few hours from selling duped SOJs.

The thought of getting a free extra enigma or CoA would be enough to get me to try out a dupe if it seemed legitamate enough though.

[NightShift]

First I think any person willing to buy a dupe is a fool and part of the problem on B.net. Doesn't they have the balls anymore to find their items or obtain them in a fair trade without infalting prices 200% just bcuz sum1 is interested in an item they have... Wish i could strangle em right through the monitor lol.

[tysapha]

Interesting. I like your approch.
To be perfectly frank, I don't think that anyone's ever posted a "dupe" that has been legit that involved you to download a file.
On the other hand, it's also notable to see how an avarage D2 player can become a cum-hungry crackwhore at the merest hope of rags to riches.
Ah the human mind.

On what you said about gameplay:
Different kinds of people want different kinds of gameplay. You might not like the fact that an item only has a 0.00003% drop chance, however on the other hand, that is what keeps many people playing.
There's a whole bunch of little meta-games that I am absolutely certain that Blizzard didn't exactly have in mind at the making of the game, but they keep people playing.
-trading. There are so many people that don't even play the game, yet they trade on a daily basis, over d2jsp and other trading forums, even ingame.
-character development. Diablo allows for a lot of min-maximization, which is what keeps people playing. An absolutely perfect character will cost 10s of thousands of FG, however striving for that is what keeps people playing.
-the community, created by the two points above.
-ladder resets and the resulting:
-experience grinding. Level 99 is so far away, yet you see people who achieve it all the time. Makes it a goal that people strive for.
-and of course hacking.

Make of it whatever you will.

How amusing this is where you look at my posts, and make a total prejudgment of my character, and in fact the way "I" think. As well as very tactically demeaned it. May I ask why? Or here let me speculate...

First..

I applaud you at what no one else could do on EON, and that was to ANSWER my "main" questions upfrontly. They started off with the character based slander, just straight out, yet you answered "honestly." And then started demeaning they way I think. May I ask why?

And As For Me Being A

"cum-hungry crackwhore at the merest hope of rags to riches."

I do not believe this fits my true character correctly, and in fact is an illusion you accepted when you read my post. Let me Remove it For ya...

"Ah the human mind." I Agree with that - Intriguing is it not?

You Make Me All Laugh When You Do Thislaugh:

Know that I have presented no harsh comments about anyone in particular in this forum. Yet somehow you judge me on my posts? Do you know that im just saying, what hundreds of legit players tell me, after they get teased about them not having the ability to dupe? I know, I know, who gives a damn right? No one, Im just sick of hearing it. So finally I say what they all think? And im public enemy number 1 - LOL

I Could frankly care less about personally "owning" a dupe. Yet you think because I speak what many think. Then that is the way I truly am?

Take a Look at This Please...



That is a "small" accumulation of doing "jsp," "Farming" Etc Over the last 19 months or so.

This is where I sold the account. EON.

http://www.*************.cc/viewtopic.php?t=412871

I too agree with this notion:

Different kinds of people want different kinds of gameplay. You might not like the fact that an item only has a 0.00003% drop chance, however on the other hand, that is what keeps many people playing.
There's a whole bunch of little meta-games that I am absolutely certain that Blizzard didn't exactly have in mind at the making of the game, but they keep people playing.
-trading. There are so many people that don't even play the game, yet they trade on a daily basis, over d2jsp and other trading forums, even ingame.
-character development. Diablo allows for a lot of min-maximization, which is what keeps people playing. An absolutely perfect character will cost 10s of thousands of FG, however striving for that is what keeps people playing.
-the community, created by the two points above.
-ladder resets and the resulting:
-experience grinding. Level 99 is so far away, yet you see people who achieve it all the time. Makes it a goal that people strive for.
-and of course hacking.

So I know, or at least knew. How and what it takes to get at least somewhere in the game. Other then that though I find these the last remaining qualities, the only remaining. As for "total" legitness, nay nay. even though that never existed in the first place LOL.

That is where GW in many ways is different. I know that no one can brag about becoming a demi god in one night, and feel all extra high n' mighty and sh*t, knowing it would or will take me forever to get what he has.

And yet from this you think I WANT to have an INSTANT come up?!!

*Smirks*

I just wanted the knowledge no one else can...

But please feel free to slash away at how I think, call me a whore n' shit. Judge me the way you will. My facts are un-deniable. If it gets out of hand, it will be the demise of the game...Thats my point. GW, I dont have to worry about that.

So I can Laugh, in the relief there will be no demise in the GW economy. Where in D2 at the spur of a moment some jackass gets the great idea of doing so. (releasing a working method/app)

Last but not least, please do not interpret my thoughts incorrectly. With out at least getting to know more of who I am.

Ive done the courteousness of not doing so to ANY of the users on here, can you all do the same?

[FraterPerdurabo]

What the **** are you on about?
Actually, having a read through my own post, I can see where you could have got the wrong idea from but no, my post was not directed at you. It more of an analysis of the avarage bnet player. If you can relate well then, you are more than welcome to take my post as a demeaning insult.

[tysapha]

ahhh I had a feeling that may be the case, I didn't think it was from me being the one presenting the info. Much apologies.

[nocturnalg]

The only dupe I've ever figured out(myself) and used was the waypoint dupe back in 1.09(or was it 8?) The only program it required was a packsender(I used d2hackit at the time) and the method was fairly simple, you would start a trade on the waypoint making sure to have all the items you want duped in your inventory. One person would send the waypoint packet (I used Catacombs in act 1), this would cause the trade to close for that one person. Said person would then drop all his items on the floor and the other person(who would still be in trade) would cancel the trade, this would cause all the items to refresh back on the players body while still remaining on the floor.

This was only a temp dupe and I had to open a trade every game so the items wouldn't disappear, I never figured out how to "perm" an item.

I would assume other dupe methods either require packets or lag. I can however see someone using a program to automate this whole process. In this particular example, the program could automatically send the waypoint packet, then send the packets to remove every item from your inventory. It could then send a ingame message stating "CANCEL TRADE NOW". For me a program like this would be pointless since I can do it all within d2hackit, but for an unexperienced individual I could see that being useful.

So that said, it is possible to use a program to automate duping, is there(or has their ever been) a legimate one out there? I haven't used one myself but I'm sure there has been.

Anyway I hope this helps.

[RaZzor]

I suppose that it wouldn't be too hard to write a progra which automates the whole process of duping, depending on the method used. I don't know of any "legit" (trojan free) dupe program, though.