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*********; Drug or Herb?
#1
Basically this is to get people's opinion on *********. Personally I think its fine and should be legal everywhere. If they use it to help people but ban others from using it then to me that seems like a big load of contradictions.

********* is an herb, you can use it for its flavor in cooking and you can use it for many pains, due to muscles and other things. It has many uses that are not publicly known.

And one thing about it is it makes you mellow. You ever heard of some *** head kicking the shit out of someone randomly for any reason? No! Cause they are too lazy/mellow to cause trouble.

So what do you all think? Should it be feared/hated? Or should it be embraced?
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#2
Anything can be abused. **** is often abused. People drive while under the influence of MJ, and they kill themselves and other people, because they're too mellow to realize they should have put the brakes on about 5 seconds ago.

I think cigarettes should be illegal. Smile So, of course, I think **** should be.

It IS a gateway drug. People that sell it often have connections to other things, so people go and try that too. That's irrefutable. An extremely high percentage of the people that use it are teenagers. That's also irrefutable. The ones that abuse it often suffer scholastically, and many never recover themselves. They might have gone down that road either way, but who's to say?

Sure, only the people who abuse it with frequency generally get in trouble, but you cannot stop people from abusing it. It's illegal now, and it should stay that way...but the government doesn't try very hard to keep it off the streets. They should work on that.
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#3
I dissagree...I think it should be legal AND taxed...I have never smoked ANYTHING including cigaretts....but all my kids do.They are the smartest people I know and I have no problem knowing they occasionally smoke ***.

I have studied all the reports as well...and *** is NOT addictive.
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#4
Actually **** IS addictive but you have to smoke like A LOT for it to become so (24 hours a day, 7 days a week) It also effects your memory if you over use it as it says in the above statement.

However if it is used in moderation its harmless, and nothing a few munchies cant fix.

I agree that it should be taxed cause, then the government would be racking in the cash. lol
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#5
I am one of those people that abides by the law...I just think this should be legal ~shrugs~
Not because I use it....being in the same room....geeze it upsets my stomach from the smell...
yuck....
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Nethran Wrote:Anything can be abused. **** is often abused. People drive while under the influence of MJ, and they kill themselves and other people, because they're too mellow to realize they should have put the brakes on about 5 seconds ago.

I think cigarettes should be illegal. Smile So, of course, I think **** should be.

It IS a gateway drug. People that sell it often have connections to other things, so people go and try that too. That's irrefutable. An extremely high percentage of the people that use it are teenagers. That's also irrefutable. The ones that abuse it often suffer scholastically, and many never recover themselves. They might have gone down that road either way, but who's to say?

Sure, only the people who abuse it with frequency generally get in trouble, but you cannot stop people from abusing it. It's illegal now, and it should stay that way...but the government doesn't try very hard to keep it off the streets. They should work on that.


I beleve marajuana should be legal. Although i often hate the idiots that smoke and than talk to me. It would remove a huge majority of vancouvers drug trade. Many have been killed inside it. If it was provincially controlled. The province could make much needed money out of it and create new jobs. And plus i frimily believ only 3% of the population would smoke anyways.

Aka Gambit Wrote:Actually **** IS addictive but you have to smoke like A LOT for it to become so (24 hours a day, 7 days a week) It also effects your memory if you over use it as it says in the above statement.

However if it is used in moderation its harmless, and nothing a few munchies cant fix.

I agree that it should be taxed cause, then the government would be racking in the cash. lol

I didn't smoke heavy when i used mj. But because of it i do have some trouble with my short term memory. Its improving i'd like to believe since its been maybe 3 years now since i haven't but it can get very annoyin when i forget to take bus money when im travelling. Or forget to grab my lunch. Or stupid random things.

THE major thing i hate about mj users is the absolute garbage they say. They state things (scientifically) with no proof. Just bullshit that comes to the top of their head.
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#7
Its even worse when they act like they know everything and stick up for *** with nothing to back up anything they say. But some times *** heads are fun to laugh at, cause they do some crazy stuff.
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#8
I dunno. I just don't think people should be allowed to have things that they can't control themselves with and are dangerous when they don't. I suppose there are those that wouldn't abuse it, just like there are people that don't shoot people with their legally licensed weapons, or get drunk every time they're in an environment with alchohol, but too many people do. I'm not saying that alchohol or guns should be illegal, I occassionally indulge in one or the other, but since hashish(filter that, vBulletin!) is already illegal, I don't see a reason to change it. *** heads are funny, but they're the funniest in movies, where they don't run into a van with 3 kids and kill their mother because they're too toasted to realize they're about to hit someone, and too slow to put on the breaks. And then they only get a year in jail because the ****ing cops dropped the ball on the manditory drug test and all they get is vehicular manslaughter.

Ain't the only story I know about something like that. I think maryjane accidents are almost as common as drunk driving nowadays. Maybe if penalties were higher.... I would not be a fun dictator. Big Grin
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#9
It's both. Abuse it and it's a drug. Get addicted, it's a drug. Actually its a drug either way around, its just a bad one in those situations.
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#10
What is funny is red wine is said to be good for your heart....MJ is prescribed for pain...and a Doctor told my Mom at 14 to try smoking to *calm her nerves*

It is what we DO NOT know...that hurts us....if we go in to a situation aware of the risks? It makes us able to make good choices.
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#11
yea but my friends are completlty aware of the risks, they drive that into our brains in BC education. They smoke *** everyday anyway
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#13
I think that all drugs should be legalized. There's a few reasons why I see it this way. For one, gang funding would essentially be eliminated. Everyone knows **** fuels the gangs. Legalize the **** and where does the money come from? Prohibition, in my eyes, has done nothing except prove that the government has no control over what substances people choose to consume. Name one drug that, if seriously sought after, you honestly couldn't find. There are those of you who don't do drugs or may not know anyone who does, but rest assured should you decide to seek a certain chemical it really isn't all that hard to find. Most mind altering substances are illegal too. Coke, ****, ecstasy, crank, acid, ketamine, pharmecuticals... you name it can all be obtained by children under 21 easier than alcohol. Same with cigarettes. I also believe it's a bit ridiculous to be criminalized for personal choosing to use drugs, most of which are victimless crimes currrently. Face it: if drugs were legal or at least decriminalized, who would the end user really harm except for themselves? Really every argument someone would have used to answer that question could also be applied to alcohol, so really in my eyes it wouldn't hold any weight looking at it legally. I think it's a tad silly to base how I view the legality of using any substance based upon ideals you have morally. Same principal applies: using drugs is essentially a victimless(maybe except for the end user) act. Even then, if it harms the end user it was his or her choice so really what does it matter? People that are going to flip out and either hurt someone or someone who would drive intoxicated would clearly do it anyway, because people get DUIs and DWIs all the time.

As far as herb goes in my opinion it's flat out rediculous to NOT support the legalization, or at least decriminalization of of it. I say this because the facts are more well documented now than ever. To say it has no medical use is EXTREMELY ignorant to the cold hard facts and evidence. It's the oldest documented medicine and most definitely the most diverse we know. It's also the safest. What other drug do you know of that is virtually non tolerance forming, impossible to physically overdose, EXTREMELY cheap and easy to produce, and diverse in it's uses as ****? Good question huh? I know every **** smoker out there would much rather pay taxes on **** LEGALLY. It sucks being criminalized for something like choosing to smoke a herb. People still do JAIL time on it.

>You ever heard of some *** head kicking the shit out of someone randomly for any reason? No! Cause they are too lazy/mellow to cause trouble.

That is entirely subjective to the person's personality and really has nothing to do with ****. Many people that would do things like that sober would still do them high. **** doesn't make everyone lazy either. I know, speaking for myself, if I thought fighting you would be worth it sober I would have done it 5 minutes before high on anything, **** included. I know I'm not the only one either, fighting is fun high if you like to fight :lol:

>And plus i frimily believ only 3% of the population would smoke anyways.

Who's to say that well over 3% of the total population doesn't smoke right now? The reason why many people won't admit to smoking is simply the legality. The legality is the very reason many people won't try it.

>THE major thing i hate about mj users is the absolute garbage they say. They state things (scientifically) with no proof. Just bullshit that comes to the top of their head.

Dumbasses will be dumbasses no matter what drugs they are on. They would be stupid without the help of ****, too. Stupefying someone is not a direct side effect of ****, it's a result of being stupid.

>yea but my friends are completlty aware of the risks, they drive that into our brains in BC education. They smoke *** everyday anyway
Where are your scientific facts of the actual RISKS of ****? The only scientifically backed up risk is the legal one lol. One could argue that smoked ********* is bad for the lungs but what dumbass honestly believes that burning a plant and inhaling the smoke, tars, and butane fumes could honestly be good for them? Vaporizing and eating **** eliminate these problems. THC is thought to drastically reduce the damage caused by smoking **** as well.


I love ****.
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#14
i just got high for the first time in 2 years yesterday...it wasn't worth it at all. I was stupid in thinking bringing back the old days would help me get over the shitty day at work i had.
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#15
I was in a room with a bunch of people smoking p o t ...all it made me do was go upstairs and make 3 trays of pigs in a blanket and a bunch of tatter tots....still not sure why...I just got hungry.

So I fed everyone 0.o
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#16
canibus is exactly what it is...a ****. but has many uses,

ex: food, clothing, fuel, medicine...the list goes on....


i agree its an herb of sorts...but its in all essence...a ****.

a **** witch produces a chemical compund known as THC or TetraHydroCannabinol that is known to slow down the growth of cancer cells, increase appetite, (and personaly broadens my mind, and useful for yoga too Big Grin)


personaly if it grows in the ground it shouldnt be illegal, becides cocaine, thats just a bad thing.

anyways. my definition of a drug is that it MUST be altered by a human, for example methamphetamines, pcp, crack, (putting cocaine in here ause its just bad for you.) ecstacy..prescription drugs...so in so forth.

theres my 2 cents Smile

[B]xDBD[/B]: that would not be conducive to a productive environment...if hard drugs were legal, there would be many more overdoses and deaths, especially in teens. that just would not be good.
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Ironic you say that, alcohol far out numbers any "hard drug," as far as overdoses per year go. Booze, along with tobacco, also kill more people indirectly per year than hard drugs. I find it extremely hard to believe that hard drugs being legal would increase the overdose/fatality number. People who want to get high get high any way. It would be extremely productive in drastically reducing the non-violent drug offenders in our jail systems. At the very least, treating the drug "epidemic," in a way that views the addict as a HEALTH problem, not a legal one would be extremely beneficial to our judicial system and the user. After all, drug prohibition didn't exist 100+ years ago, somehow human existence has survived and flourished for the amount of time we've been here. A few hundred years ago, opium junkies were viewed as a problem to society, not as a criminal.

Sending a junkie to jail for crack possession doesn't do much for him; he'll be out in a few weeks smoking rock again, leaving behind the various jail fees he won't be able to pay to be dumped on the non-offending, tax paying citizens of our great nation.

Prohibition of every substance the USA has prohibited has been nothing but a resounding failure. Talk about a war we'll never win.
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#18
seconded. Like i said before i'm confident less than 2% of the population would be ********* users. Making it legal would cause only extreme benefit.
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#19
I don't know which figures you are quoting but every recent drug census conducted in America has had numbers far higher than 2% of the population. My guess is with legalization, the number of users probably won't increase much but the percent of people willing to admit that they partake in the consumption of said substance would increase quite a bit.
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#20
The definition of a drug is anything that alters your body to work in a way that it normally wouldnt. With the tough economic situation we are in right now, it could be a very valuable source of income for the government. I have tried it and these are facts from personal experience: yes, it does make you rather dumb for a few months if you do a lot, it causes you to be amotivational and a little unproductive. I think it should be legalized but only be able to be used in a private area such as your home or friend's house. Driving while under the influence of **** should be illegal. Its not physically addictive like a cigarrette but can cause some phychological addictiveness if you let it get to your head. In my opinion, it's both a drug and an herb
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