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what char should i make?
#1
if i have enough stuff to make a decent godly char of any type what should it be?
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#2
make a zealot..... or possibly a tweaker
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#3
What the hell is a tweaker? O_o


And build a Hammerdin or a bone nec. They're amazin at duellin and great for pretty much everything else, too.
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#4
Co-Sign on Bone necro, im VERY happy with the results so far. You can boss kill, rush, and PVP well very. MFing is fine too, you can get enough MF to find good stuff.

First i had

86 Zon - PVM (08 wf, 08 gaze, shaftstop, highlords, laying of hands, string of ears, 1 duel leech ring, 1 raven frost)

then

87 Hammedin - PVM (2 sets of gear, MF and serious gear... tough little bugger but hammers **** me off and i hate it when they dont hit properly... running your hammerdin in confined spaces like the fa.ggot lair isn't exactly swift nor fun)

then

80 Poison Necromancer - Both (Amazing poison nova and explosion, very awesome for PVM and in PVP people are scared of you because poison is dangerous)

then

88 Bone Necromancer -Both (HOTO/CTA/nigma/fcr ring/soj/magical+3P&b +75 life ammy/rare circlet with FCR FHR plus skills/arachnids/magefists/lidless/hommy)

He is by far my favourite out of all my characters. In all honesty you can make a cheap P&B necro who will still be good. Use Skin of vipermagi and Suicide branch or Wizspike and you'll be flying around. Necros do good amounts of damage, but what really puts them over the top in my opinion is their versatility and speed, with the right balance of FCR and Damage you'll be a deadly necro.
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#5
Bone necros have desperate need of Enigma when rushing, unless you use some sort of teleport charged item. "Flying around" is not necessarily the right term to use for a cheaply built poison necro. Suicide branch and skin of vipermagi is not a good combination, as the +skills on the wand is extremely low, and skin is low on + skills, etc... If you are unable to get enigma, and a HoTo, use a good white (dol+io), especially with a good base, along with a type of armor like arkaine's valor. Damage is really scarce when using bone necro, though his spells are very accurate. PnB gc's are the key to building a good bone necromancer.
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#6
Well what about a orb/thunderstorm sorc cause it does a good ammount of damage
Or a Guided Arrow amazon
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#7
Rapta111 Wrote:Bone necros have desperate need of Enigma when rushing, unless you use some sort of teleport charged item. "Flying around" is not necessarily the right term to use for a cheaply built poison necro. Suicide branch and skin of vipermagi is not a good combination, as the +skills on the wand is extremely low, and skin is low on + skills, etc... If you are unable to get enigma, and a HoTo, use a good white (dol+io), especially with a good base, along with a type of armor like arkaine's valor. Damage is really scarce when using bone necro, though his spells are very accurate. PnB gc's are the key to building a good bone necromancer.

wrong and wrong, ask any godly nec will tell you to sacrifice dmg for FCR. White has 20% FCR, Suicide has 50%, I also mentioned wizspike which has more resistance but no +1
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#8
jerzilla Wrote:wrong and wrong, ask any godly nec will tell you to sacrifice dmg for FCR. White has 20% FCR, Suicide has 50%, I also mentioned wizspike which has more resistance but no +1

30% basic FCR does pretty much NOTHING compared to the +5 skill to spear/spirit/teeth in which you can get on a white. When used correctly, it can increase the damage of your skill up to 1.5k. That is something much better to use on a lower budget necro than some crappy suicide branch wand. If you do the calculations right (yes, use windows calculator) you can easily see that at the sacrice of merely 30% FCR, you can recieve around 3.5k more damage in 3 casts. So, no, it's not, "wrong, and wrong, and wrong, and wrong..."

Wizardspike is a good choice of weapon to use when you are tele'ing and fighting in hell. But without enigma, a necro doesn't survive long in hell anyways.
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Rapta111 Wrote:30% basic FCR does pretty much NOTHING compared to the +5 skill to spear/spirit/teeth in which you can get on a white. When used correctly, it can increase the damage of your skill up to 1.5k. That is something much better to use on a lower budget necro than some crappy suicide branch wand. If you do the calculations right (yes, use windows calculator) you can easily see that at the sacrice of merely 30% FCR, you can recieve around 3.5k more damage in 3 casts. So, no, it's not, "wrong, and wrong, and wrong, and wrong..."

Wizardspike is a good choice of weapon to use when you are tele'ing and fighting in hell. But without enigma, a necro doesn't survive long in hell anyways.

It also depends on how much FCR you have from the gear you're using. If you can break 85 excluding your wand, then sure, go for white wand. The first breakpoint is 85, suicide branch (or wizspike) and skin of vipermagi give 80 FCR together. That means you need 5 more to break it. (need +10 FCR on an ammy or a ring or shield, Let's say you used skin+suicidebranch and a FCR ring the other items could concentrate on +skills like 1 SOJ and maras or something.. so that's +1 from skin +1 from branch +1from soj +2 from maras and +x from whatever shield you use and +x from whatever helmet you use... and these will be +1 to ALL skills not just P&B) I have 3 white wands that never get used. It's not all about damage with every character class.
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#10
yeah i prefer speed to dmg anyday
btw a tweaker is a barb that uses like enough str, enough dex, no energy, and the rest into vit
this char is player vs caster usually and vs some meleers too
use : perf upped um arreats
um ss
ebotd cb or zerker
archon enigma (u need a light armor enigma)
cats eye ammy (ur gonna be fast), or imp brow
upped gores
perf rends
perf vit verd (u dont need perf dr verd because with 35% from ss, and 8% from enigma, u get 43 meaning u only need 7 and the minimum for verd is like 10)
cgrip and ravenfrost (change to the three angelics if ur dueling casters and meleers)
use 5% faster run/walk scs their 09 but pretty easy to find
anni
use dual hotos on switch and if ur fast enough u can use the 80% fcr to tele to a caster, then press w and ww them
fill up ur inventory with 3-20-20s for the rest and put 1 or 2 warcry gcs if u need them, also put 5% fhr scs if u dont reach the bp
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#11
jerzilla Wrote:It also depends on how much FCR you have from the gear you're using.

I second that.

And a fun godly build would be a fire druid. They pretty much duel just like bliz sorcs, since fissure is just a fire version of blizzard. A must try Smile
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#12
Maybe it's me, Being new to the forum and my first post. But a Tweaker was. And that is was as in per 8's a faster cast char. Something along the lines of a fire sorc. We have all seen then newer ver. Running about in cow rooms with there fireball. Lets face it. When it boils down to a line of Fireballs or one that does what a 1,000 to 1,500 more damage. I would take the line. Ad there are Very cheap to make. Just use the basic fire sorc setup. remebering to max out masteries last if your main attack is Fireball. First if it is anything else. just run arounf normal act one and you will find two faster cast rings every hour. keep your eye's open for a two socket armor to turn into stealth. (by the way it seems like everytime I kill the countess in normal I get tal eth and can make another). With those items you will be on your way. Eyeless is cheap and gets dropped in free stuff rooms alot. grab a Nerco wand with faster cast and it is easy to see why Sorc where and still are the real TWEAKERS of D2
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#13
make a bone necro /w 08 valk enigma/hoto/pnb gcs/darkforce and more,or make a hammerdin
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#14
hammerdin....fun..=)
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#15
I want a cool character tat can revive the dead but in time also have strong melee damage
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#16
only 2 chars can summon dead....but melee sux...
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#17
okok.....have character taqt can do anything~hahahaha
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#18
i have a bone necro that is really really good but if i wanted to make a diff char i would choose a trapper ele druid or a good ww barb or a zealot i hvaent chose yet lol
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#19
hammerdin hammerdin hammerdin hammerdin hammerdin hammerdin hammerdinConfusedmartass2

p.s. yay passed the 100 post markBig Grin
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#20
Finally, for someone who joined in MARCH :p

And yes, hammerdins are very good. Bone necros are, IMO, the best though, especially if you can get one godly equipped.
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