03-12-2007, 04:05 AM
Here's my 2 cents worth of perspective.
1) I have read everyone's posting here and do believe that each viewpoint is valid from the person's perspective.
2) Let's agree that there are more thn 1 dupe method and the patch killed the most common method aka the lag method.
3) My view is that there are responsible and irresponsible dupers i.e. (a) responsible dupers dupes HRs since they help everyone; SOJs since they help everyone by having more dclone walks where they can get legit annis and they dupe shells like nigma, botd and etc without the final runeword being made such that when u put in the last necessary rune the runeword the item is permed (legit), reposnsible dupers do not dupe items found like coa, griffons, hel'ed runewords and etc simply because they poof i.e. they do not dupe anything that can poof! (b) the irresponsible dupers dupes anything and everything and sells them as legit items and these are the "killers" of D2 economy/game and frustrates every player, myself included.
4) By way of (3) above, more permed(legit) stuff will flood the game making it more playable i.e. more people will have similar gears and therefore the winner comes down to gear mix, style, reflexes and so on particularly in duels. Without easy to get HRs, many runewords will be near impossible to make even if u can find 3 jahs in 3 mths! Without duped sojs there will not be many dclone walks and annis will be out of reach of most people. So responsible duping does help the game.
5) Its irresponsible duping that we are particularly fed-up with. But how do u stop irrespobsible duping? the answer is u cannot but u can frustrate it e.g. (a) have a patch that show a unperm/duped item as unperm/duped so people know what they are trading for like wizzies glove or imp shank boots where people know they are not legit and its prices is moderated by that mere fact (b) run mini-russtorms / warden or something similar daily to get rid of duped items like when u exit games the dupe item poofs so then when they try to dupe items they poof b4 they are even traded. © i am sure there are some geniuses who can figure a way to identify a dupe item in the trade window so the value of duped items will drop making it quite worthhless to dupe items for trade. such will make it more profitable to trade dupe but permed/legit runewords or shells and of course hrs and sojs for the reasons mentioned above.
6) Blizzard can help reduce the need to dupe by making the drops more frequent e.g. hrs, sojs, coa, hoz and so on. yes it will reduce the value of such items but the economy will find it stable prices. After all price is a function of supply and demand. Moreover this will make duping item lose its value. This will keep the game playble for many more years to come and blizzard will be proud to have a game that can last for say 20 years. What a trophy that will be for blizzard!
7) the recent patch to stop the lag method did do its job i.e. u can't use the lag method anymore but it also causes more ci and yes there is still lag. In addition, they have also made the other dupers more rich since they can now control the economy. So is this fair? maybe the dupers now are even blizzard employees who are running some online store and selling D2 items for real money? Do we know for sure? I don't!
8) In fact Blizzard should set aside an ip for dupers using the lag method so that only 1 or a few designated ips are lagging. Now thats food for thot.
Conclusion: So is duping bad? my answer is NO! Duping is in fact necessary! But there again its just my perspective. Enjoy yourself guys.
1) I have read everyone's posting here and do believe that each viewpoint is valid from the person's perspective.
2) Let's agree that there are more thn 1 dupe method and the patch killed the most common method aka the lag method.
3) My view is that there are responsible and irresponsible dupers i.e. (a) responsible dupers dupes HRs since they help everyone; SOJs since they help everyone by having more dclone walks where they can get legit annis and they dupe shells like nigma, botd and etc without the final runeword being made such that when u put in the last necessary rune the runeword the item is permed (legit), reposnsible dupers do not dupe items found like coa, griffons, hel'ed runewords and etc simply because they poof i.e. they do not dupe anything that can poof! (b) the irresponsible dupers dupes anything and everything and sells them as legit items and these are the "killers" of D2 economy/game and frustrates every player, myself included.
4) By way of (3) above, more permed(legit) stuff will flood the game making it more playable i.e. more people will have similar gears and therefore the winner comes down to gear mix, style, reflexes and so on particularly in duels. Without easy to get HRs, many runewords will be near impossible to make even if u can find 3 jahs in 3 mths! Without duped sojs there will not be many dclone walks and annis will be out of reach of most people. So responsible duping does help the game.
5) Its irresponsible duping that we are particularly fed-up with. But how do u stop irrespobsible duping? the answer is u cannot but u can frustrate it e.g. (a) have a patch that show a unperm/duped item as unperm/duped so people know what they are trading for like wizzies glove or imp shank boots where people know they are not legit and its prices is moderated by that mere fact (b) run mini-russtorms / warden or something similar daily to get rid of duped items like when u exit games the dupe item poofs so then when they try to dupe items they poof b4 they are even traded. © i am sure there are some geniuses who can figure a way to identify a dupe item in the trade window so the value of duped items will drop making it quite worthhless to dupe items for trade. such will make it more profitable to trade dupe but permed/legit runewords or shells and of course hrs and sojs for the reasons mentioned above.
6) Blizzard can help reduce the need to dupe by making the drops more frequent e.g. hrs, sojs, coa, hoz and so on. yes it will reduce the value of such items but the economy will find it stable prices. After all price is a function of supply and demand. Moreover this will make duping item lose its value. This will keep the game playble for many more years to come and blizzard will be proud to have a game that can last for say 20 years. What a trophy that will be for blizzard!
7) the recent patch to stop the lag method did do its job i.e. u can't use the lag method anymore but it also causes more ci and yes there is still lag. In addition, they have also made the other dupers more rich since they can now control the economy. So is this fair? maybe the dupers now are even blizzard employees who are running some online store and selling D2 items for real money? Do we know for sure? I don't!
8) In fact Blizzard should set aside an ip for dupers using the lag method so that only 1 or a few designated ips are lagging. Now thats food for thot.
Conclusion: So is duping bad? my answer is NO! Duping is in fact necessary! But there again its just my perspective. Enjoy yourself guys.