Best PvP

[devilslilboy69]

Read before flameing please.

I know that their are already about 100 topics on this but none actually say ____ is best. If you got a perfect build and all the best equipment what character would win lets say 90% of the time? And can you post a guide on it? My friend quit and gave me account he was mega rich(why i'm comeing back after my account got jacked), so I think I could get the stuff, he might have it already on his mules I don't know.

Ty in advance I hope.

[ArcaneSupremacy]

100 topics? more like a million. the reason none of them had conclusions is because there is no best char. nobody on bnet will win 90% of his/her duels unless he/she duels selected opponents. yes, u will probably win 95% of ur duels if ur a smiter who only duels zealots. there are also no best equipment choices either, since equipment is frequently changed to adapt to certain opponents. anyone can say they have the best possible char build, but he/she still has a good chance to lose to someone on any given day.

plz...everyone...for ur own reputation's sake, dont ask this question again.

[devilslilboy69]

I see, I quit right after 1.10 was released and I didn't know it changed that much...... Like in 1.09 a godly bowazon would win about 90%

[ArcaneSupremacy]

.09 was a time when if u didnt have 40 hexes in ur inventory, white rings, str gloves, and bugged [insert item name here], u would lose anyway. since the majority of players wasnt rich enuf to get ALL of these, its no surprise that the hexed up chars would beat 90% of opponents. wearing one white ring alone took out all possibility of an elemental dmg based char beating u. zons were the best of those chars due to piercing guided arrows. no bug has ever made such a difference in pvp, and since bugs of that degree of influence no longer exist, u cannot single out a specific char class and say its the best.

[mpeck]

dont forget the good ol hacked sorc, 1 skill charm of each type, the bugged ring that gave 105% lightning absorb (white ring? i cant remember), and something else, hit 'w' to switch weapons, each time you hit it, it added 1 point to ur current skill lvls, go into a duel game, and let your cold armor/thundstorm(as long as they didnt have the rings too) kill them in a hit

[Quiksilver]

i wud say a blizzy sorc

[ArcaneSupremacy]

i wud say a blizzy sorc

and i would say u posted that without even reading the previous posts.

[Timetear]

foh'er, blizz sorc/fb sorc, bone necro

[medicine_man]

but none actually say ____ is best.

I have, indeed, said a Bone Necromancer is the best. Like AznAvatar said, no character wins 100% of the time, but if I had to chose the one you would win the most with, it'd be a Bone Necro. I will stand behind my decision if anybody disagrees.

[ArcaneSupremacy]

a zon only needs to cast slow missile on u and ur spells are pretty much useless. also, anyone can cast slow missile if they use sanctuary shield. then again, not everyone are smart enough to do that.

tell me what u think is the best, and i'll give u reasons why it isn't.

[Fuggle]

Ugh, People just get over it there is no best char. If you kept the perfect build that could counter any type of char in the game in your stash, and duel 1v1, than even the shittiest char can be the greatest. So for future reference never make a thread on this again, just a waste of time since no one will answer you, or if they do you will have 952895 different replies because A.) Its a opinion, not a fact because there is no best and B.) It all matters on how lucky you get in duels, you could have a crappy char but he gets lucky and has to duela bunch of kids who dont know how to use hotkeys than you will assume your good.

[Silver Ice]

blizz is the best....

[ArcaneSupremacy]

silver...read the damn posts. if u think blizz sorc is the best, at least add reasons to justify ur conclusion.

[Keitaro]

If you have good ping and fps, then i know one of the best chars in the game.
I say it has a 80% chance of winning.
Its the hybrid necromancer.

The following skills will be used:

Summoning Spells:
20 Skeleton Mastery
20 Summon Skeleton
01 Clay Golem
01 Golem Mastery
08 Summon Resist
01 Blood Golem
01 Iron Golem
20 Skeletal Mage
01 Revive

Curses:
01 Amplify Damage
20 Iron Maiden

Poison and Bone Spells:
01 Bone Armour
01 Bone Wall
01 Teeth
01 Corpse Explotion
01 Bone Spear
01 Bone Spirit

All the skills you get after this shoud go into Bone Spirit.

I dont renember the exact gear, but i tell what i renember.

Helm:
Shako socket with Cham

Weapon:
HotO in flail

Shield:
Homoculus socket with Um

Armour:
Enigma breast plate

Gloves:
Frostburn

Belt:
Europe = Bugged Siggard
Other Realms = Aracnid

Boots:
Marrowwalk

Amulet:
Maras

Rings:
2x SoJ

On Switch:
Weapon:
CtA 6/6/2

Shield:
Spirit


Stats:
Strenght: 0
Dexterity: Enough to wear HotO
Vitality: All
Energy: 0


NM Act2 offensive Merc:
Helm:
CoA socket with ber, ber

Weapon:
Etheral Doom giant thresher

Armour:
Etheral Gladiator socket with Um



This will make a great PvP at hell, and you shoud try it out before complaining about its power above lvl 90.

[DeOxY]

It's common sense really. Sure, against an elemental oppenent like a sorceress, you could absorb and thus, win the duel. But, let's say you were a necro. Versus an elemental druid, even if you absorbed the hurricane, the tornadoes would kill you. No build is perfect and it is impossible to win 90% of your duels no matter what. I don't understand why people don't seem to understand that... The only thing you can do to win more is make all of the builds and use them according to who you are dueling. But that means there isn't a best build. If there was, it would be pointless having 6 other hero classes.

[ArcaneSupremacy]

my response to Keitaro...

let's make one thing clear first. a summoner hybrid necro is considered BM since it uses monster corpses prior to the duel. a good summoner hybrid also stacks multiple auras. this justifies any cross-skilling, use of skill charges, and aura stacking by the opponent.

for a melee char with an uninterruptable attack, ie. WW, zeal:
- cast a life tap charge on the crowd and u'll never die.
- use azurewrath or use sanctuary aura on a pally. it will knock back the necro's minions since they are undead, leaving the necro himself exposed and vulnerable to pretty much everything.

for lightning javazons:
- toss a lightning fury into the crowd and the necro will be hit by many bolts if it pierces.

for bone necros:
- bone spear pierces. maintain a distance by teleporting and aim for the center of the crowd.

for sorcs:
- fireball deals splash dmg.
- lightning pierces.

warcry barbs:
- get lots of fcr and stun the hell outta them all.

trappers:
- lightning sentry shots pierce.
- mind blast stuns all enemies within an area.

those are my reasons. u, on the other hand, posted no reasons of why u think it's the best, and only told us to try it out ourselves.

[Keitaro]

for a melee char with an uninterruptable attack, ie. WW, zeal:
- cast a life tap charge on the crowd and u'll never die.
- use azurewrath or use sanctuary aura on a pally. it will knock back the necro's minions since they are undead, leaving the necro himself exposed and vulnerable to pretty much everything.

This is where you use iron maiden, bone spirit and make use of your merc holy freeze aura


for lightning javazons:
- toss a lightning fury into the crowd and the necro will be hit by many bolts if it pierces.

Teleport up to her and evade-lock her, holy freeze her, and send bone spirits on her


for bone necros:
- bone spear pierces. maintain a distance by teleporting and aim for the center of the crowd.

Belive it or not, but i never had any problems facing bone-necros, exept hybrids like myself


for sorcs:
- fireball deals splash dmg.
- lightning pierces.

Lightning sorc can be dangerous, but ussually they cant take 1 hit from my clouster of skeletons.
Fire sorc is a matter of dodge and predict where she will tele. Get her withing the holy freeze aura, and she wil be slowed heavily.
Cold sorceress is a fact that they are hard @ss, so rely on your luck with spirits.


warcry barbs:
- get lots of fcr and stun the hell outta them all.

Rarely meet them, and their range on attack is so short, that casting bone spirits is no problem at all.:laugh:


trappers:
- lightning sentry shots pierce.
- mind blast stuns all enemies within an area.

The same as with lightning sorceress, exep that they do lesser damage and have more life. Bone spirit is the key.

I never sayd he would win vs. all, but he have a very high win% when in general.
Iron maden and amplify is really good curses, my merc cannot be frozen and kill the average sorceress in 1 hit, i have a huge shield around me and with the BO the army is almost instoppable.

The only nemesis of this character is a teleporting tornado/hurricane druide.

[equalizer62189]

I personally think a poison sorcs is the best..

[ArcaneSupremacy]

I never sayd he would win vs. all, but he have a very high win% when in general.
Iron maden and amplify is really good curses, my merc cannot be frozen and kill the average sorceress in 1 hit, i have a huge shield around me and with the BO the army is almost instoppable.

The only nemesis of this character is a teleporting tornado/hurricane druide.

This is where you use iron maiden, bone spirit and make use of your merc holy freeze aura

first of all, in a standard duel, mercs are not allowed. secondly, iron maiden has a weaker effect in pvp and does not compare with the life gained from life tap.

Lightning sorc can be dangerous, but ussually they cant take 1 hit from my clouster of skeletons.
Fire sorc is a matter of dodge and predict where she will tele. Get her withing the holy freeze aura, and she wil be slowed heavily.
Cold sorceress is a fact that they are hard @ss, so rely on your luck with spirits.

it usually only takes one shot from a lightning sorc to kill u. holy freeze and any form of slow does not affect casting speed, so it doesnt matter if u slow the sorc.

Rarely meet them, and their range on attack is so short, that casting bone spirits is no problem at all.:laugh:

they can teleport next to u u know, and wc barbs generally have a lot of fcr.

The same as with lightning sorceress, exep that they do lesser damage and have more life. Bone spirit is the key.

bone spirit doesnt lock on to a target if u're too far away. lightning sentries, however, can aim at targets outside of the screen. it's unlikely that u'll be able to efficiently aim bone spirit AND dodge lightning at the same time. also, if the trapper uses 2 claws, weapon block can block ur bone spirit. if the trapper really has to, she'll teleport around, making it even harder for u to hit her.

"I never sayd he would win vs. all, but he have a very high win% when in general."

i'm simply trying to prove that there is no best pvp char. u obviously think ur hybrid necro is the "best". ur win% really depends on who u duel, and if u're one of those ppl who go into games called "melee duels only" or "pally zeal pk", the outcome is obvious.

[Keitaro]

This is where you use iron maiden, bone spirit and make use of your merc holy freeze aura

first of all, in a standard duel, mercs are not allowed. secondly, iron maiden has a weaker effect in pvp and does not compare with the life gained from life tap.

Lightning sorc can be dangerous, but ussually they cant take 1 hit from my clouster of skeletons.
Fire sorc is a matter of dodge and predict where she will tele. Get her withing the holy freeze aura, and she wil be slowed heavily.
Cold sorceress is a fact that they are hard @ss, so rely on your luck with spirits.

it usually only takes one shot from a lightning sorc to kill u. holy freeze and any form of slow does not affect casting speed, so it doesnt matter if u slow the sorc.

Rarely meet them, and their range on attack is so short, that casting bone spirits is no problem at all.:laugh:

they can teleport next to u u know, and wc barbs generally have a lot of fcr.

The same as with lightning sorceress, exep that they do lesser damage and have more life. Bone spirit is the key.

bone spirit doesnt lock on to a target if u're too far away. lightning sentries, however, can aim at targets outside of the screen. it's unlikely that u'll be able to efficiently aim bone spirit AND dodge lightning at the same time. also, if the trapper uses 2 claws, weapon block can block ur bone spirit. if the trapper really has to, she'll teleport around, making it even harder for u to hit her.

"I never sayd he would win vs. all, but he have a very high win% when in general."

i'm simply trying to prove that there is no best pvp char. u obviously think ur hybrid necro is the "best". ur win% really depends on who u duel, and if u're one of those ppl who go into games called "melee duels only" or "pally zeal pk", the outcome is obvious.

Nr.1: Merc are fully allowed in a duell, and if someone have a problem with that they shoud get their own.

Nr.2: Iron Maiden deliver 1/10 dmg back when they attack the necromancer, but if they attack the skeletons/Revives/Merc/Golem, then they will recive the full outcome back. (1125% in my case)

Nr.3: Lightning may kill me in one hit, but so does she if she get close to my skeletons.

Nr.4: Holy Freeze may not affect cast rate of lightning, but it does affect the speed of teleport if i renember correct.

Nr.5: I know warcry barbars can tele upon me, but they are an uncommon sight, and they ussually are no match for me.

Nr.6: Trappers are just a match of who can handle their character best and take chances.


There is only 2 characters i hate duelling with my character, and that is a teleporting hurricane/tornado druide and a lightning fury javazon with high dmg.


At the end i wanna add something we bouth can agree on.
In the blizzard games: Diablo, Diablo2, Starcraft, Starcraft Broodwar and the warcraft series.
Anyhow what you build or how you build it. No mather how good it might be, there will always be a counter for it.