Are public school teachers over paid?

[Crown]

Well, who would teach the parents the information they know to teach their kids if there were never any teachers??

[Mr. Fabulous]

Ok, guy's keep the whole homeschooled thing out it's something of a completely different subject.

[[/sarcasm]]

Well it seems that my post here didn't get through for one reason or another, but anyway... Teachers aren't paid by the scores on standardized tests, they are paid by how many years they've been teaching, as several teachers have told me themselves.

[Corona_Time]

My aunts been teaching now in Stockton, CA. for some 30+years. Uh no, judging by her lifestyle and raising twin boys on her own she is not overpaid. Misconception of teachers I've noticed is to many parents expect teachers to parent kids also. Wrong, parents should parent kids and teachers should teach kids. I would definitely give all of my teachers a nice raise for there hard work. Maybe rather faulting the teacher for there pi** poor teaching, look at yourself first and see if your really giving her the proper respect and time to teach you what you need to learn. As always and what I'm famous for you have your "exceptions".

[kurups]

Well first of all teachers do NOT have half the year off they get like three months... second of all they dont get paid enough at public schools at least because they are the people that make the rich people and i just think they should get more pay than they do now

[nujabes]

i think theyre underpaid. i dont kno any details about it but i just think theyre underpaid.

[JnRossi]

I think PUBLIC school teachers are very very underpaid, they have extrem ammounts of work they must do and the fuc*ing kids are usally a$$holes to the teaches, I think its retard how a pro baseball player can get paid 10+ times more than a Teacher. They are very underpaid.

[SpreadNeedleXP]

How about this for a payment method, they get paid by how well the students do on standardized tests.

Totally horrible idea. There could be many scams with this policy... the teacher could try to help the students on the test to highten their wages. That OR a kid may have a problem with the teacher and purposely do bad to lower the teachers salary.

It would have problems coming from all directions...

[nujabes]

i think they shuld just simply get paid more. theyre doin alotta work

[DeStRuCtIoN]

dunno about america but nz teachers are paid pretty nicely....................... but only if they teached for like 5 years or more, they earn about us $35k a year

[Dynafrom]

35k is not really alot for all the work they do

[DaCougarMech]

school teachers are most definately under-paid
besides spending half their waking day dealing with class after class of bratty kids who love to make life hard for them, they go home with tons of paperwork to grade and no time to attend to their own families
for this torment they are ridiculed and underpaid for their invaluable time and energy

[Corona_Time]

Dynaform hit it just right, I'm in the service and just my base sallary is 38k not including my entitlements which bring me close to 50k. So considering I didnt really start any kind of higher education until my 6th year in the service; now on 12 years and just now in my senior year of college have I had the ammount of education they have. Not saying education is the complete basis of salary, but plays a significant role in salary. Thinking most teachers either have a masters degree or close to it or possible higher w/a PHd. I'd also like to add putting up with me for 12 years in school they should have been paid double.

[Shibbied]

Public teachers should get paid more for just putting up with me...

[qweeve]

Ok, guy's keep the whole homeschooled thing out it's something of a completely different subject.

It absolutely is not a different subject, it's kind of my whole entire point here. If someone with no training can do the same job, why should the "professional" be highly paid.

[qweeve]

Well, who would teach the parents the information they know to teach their kids if there were never any teachers??

Who taught the first teacher?
I'll repeat myself, Abe Lincoln was self-taught as a lawyer. As in, he learned without the help of a teacher. If somebody wants to learn, they will. A teachers main job isn't to lead the horse to water, it's to make the horse drink, and we all know you can't make a horse drink.

[Dynafrom]

Because if somebody else does the job they might not be as good as a teacher, I've had friends who were homeschooled then they went to public schools, do you know how shitty their marks were?
I would rather leave my hands to a professional then to a parent with no training at the subjacts at all.

[Foog]

in agreeing with dynafrom, i have to disagree with qweeve, saying that teachers try and make the horse drink rather than lead the horse to water, and i'm going to respond with a diametrically opposed metaphor of the same kind. a teacher's true job is not to fill a pail, but to light a fire.

[qweeve]

what if the matches are wet?

[xDBD]

How about this for a payment method, they get paid by how well the students do on standardized tests.

American teachers are the highest paid in the world, and we have among the lowest test scores. If I'm paying someone to do a job, I like to think I'm getting what I pay for. Granted, a teacher can only do so much, mostly it's up to the student and his or her parents. But with all the books, computers, highly paid teachers, shouldn't we be ranked a little higher?

i would make B's, C's, D's, and F's(mostly the latter two), score around 95% percentile on math and reading on FCAT, and end up with all honors classes the next year.

teachers are NOT highly paid. they BARLEY make what a waitress makes, and with all the added stress, they make much much less. at elementary level, you're dealing with seven year olds. 30 of them at the time, often. ever babysat? it's hell.

at middle school you're dealing with moody pre-pubescant brats who just got their first taste of leg. they're a wonderful mess to deal with every damned day.

at high school you're dealing with hormone driven pubescant smartasses. these children have literally no koof or respect for the teachers, most anyway. loud, abnoxious..

ya, our teachers are overpaid. ron jeremy hasn't shacked up enough in his life, either.