*~Bone Nec vs Poison vs Windy~*

[Daking]

Ive narrowed it down to a bone nec, poison nec, or a windy druid for hell rushes and owning in pvm. (no hammerdins or sorcs, there so boring*and yes i know there the best, thats not the point :p *) Can some one plz tell me there experiences w/ all of these and which one would be most effective for rushes... consider i have best items possible for each char.

thx,
daking

[Koolaid_dude]

windy druid if u want to rush and pvp, psn necro wonnt do shit in rushing but will pwn all in pvp and bone nec is in between

[lidoone]

Windy is the best rusher out of those three, poison necro sucks at both, but they very very very useful in Team PvPs. Bone necro are pretty bad in rushing aswell too but they great in PvP if you know how to use the three bone skills in the right times(Teeth, Bone Spear, Bone Spirit). So if i was ganna rush id pick Windy for sure.

[Daking]

lol well if all these arent good at pvm rushing wat are some good ones **BESIDES hammerdins and sorc and summoners** Plz just the char and skills plz. There have to be some good ones out there besides those 3 builds that own pvm (zealots seem good but IM hurts)

thx,
daking

[lidoone]

As I said, Wind druids will be the best, besides Sorceresses + Hammerdins.
Well, Javazons that have Lightning Fury are pretty fast, if you dont have map hack, since maphack + teleport is as fast as you can get. Javazons have very fast movement and the Lightning Fury is very effective on monsters. But you'll have hard time on Immune to Physicals.

[StuntMonkey46]

^And immune to Lightning. Personally I agree with everyone else, my wind druid is a great rusher and also an awsome keyfinder( 2 tkeys and 1 hkey in 1 run =)). Also the wind druid is good in PvP because of the hurricane which slows the opponent which is really good for you.

[Daking]

ok well thx for the imput

[broken dark templar]

i say a bone necro cuz of there bone spirit and spear they can be fast if you know what to do and use on them i like my necro of course well yeah tahts what i have to say

[The-Grim-Reaper]

awww.. how come now ur saying "besides summoner". summoners pwn. out of those a wind druid is best if built rite, & use spirit wolves to draw away some hits.

[A|fzZz]

Summoners rush faster than boners for those who dont know.

[DisposableHero]

Summoners rush faster than boners for those who dont know.

Why would someone rush with their boner, man with my boner, I like to take it niiiiice and slow, you know enjoy it.


Anyways, maybe I'm not doing it right but my windy does not do very good in hell. I've got all the right things maxed and I'm using Spirit/Spirit, Jalals, Um'd Up'd Perf Vipermagi, Treks, 2 good rings(dont remember, not soj's) dungos and frosties. I just dont do enough damage. Maybe I need more charms and arach/soj's.

Anyways, I've seen bonermancers do pretty good in hell and their gear is relatively inexpensive(except for enigma). Just tool around with a Hero Editor until you get something that works right.

[Meteor_Knight]

nova nec/psn necs have a) too little life b) dmg is too slow and too little...mine dus 10k and he sucks c) they cant take any hits. i dont recommend for rush or for PvP or PvM. tesladins/auradins r great for norm and nm rushing cos their aura just owns everything b4 u get near them =D

[The-Grim-Reaper]

almost every build is good for norm and nm rushes.. hell rushing is wut is more challnging. #1 hell rusher: hammerdin. #2: summon necro.

[A|fzZz]

no 1 rusher.
Lite sorc..Fast as hell

Dispose..Get 99fcr...U definately need that.

Not many defensive boners can do hell...Mostly with 40+- res..
And not using wizz.

[xenn2600]

I don't know if anyone has mentioned this but Smiters can be nice rushers... you can tank practically everything if you have above 30k defense and perfect resists or higher (which most smiters have), and if you swap your armor out for Enigma you can just tele/tank through the levels...

My smiter has over 35k defense with my ghetto rushing Enigma on and has something like 80/80/75/75 resists.

Also, poison necros suck pvm and pvp. In hell many things are poison immune, and as for pvp you have to wait for their health to reach 1 before the second nova kills them. If someone has lots of resist, even with that stupid curse, you won't do that well. I don't know any poison necros who can take down a good... well, anything. Someone with stacked resists will still have perfect poison resist after Lower Resist is cast on them and with reduced poison length items it totally nerfs nova.

Wind druids aren't that great for rushing in hell, but they're great for pvp.

Bone necros aren't that great pvm, but are great pvp if you have a few points into skeletons, magi and golem to add to your meat shield (or, in this case, bone shield) when you teleport around.