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#1
Hey, I'm building a BvE, Barb vs Everything (lol, just made that up :p ). I'm just building a barb to maybe solo uber, or atleast do uber with a friend, key hunt, and occasionally duel. Im going to post his basics, feel free to give your opinion, and any good improvements would be cool too.

Gear:
Head: Perf arreats-40/15.
Ammy: Imp brow
Body: Perf nigma archon plate
Wep: High lw zerker, wc javs
Shield: SS-um
Gloves: Perf dracs
Belt: Perf dungos
Rings: C-grip, perf raven
Boots: Gores
Invin:Torch, Anni 20life scs

Stats:
Str: idk if str bugging is worth it, suggestions on that would be great.
Dex: enough for 75% block.
Vit: As much as possible
Eng: none

Skillz: I'll post what they'll end up as with this build too.
Howl-1---------------17
Shout-20-------------36
BO-20----------------36
BC-1-----------------17
Axe mas-20---------30
Iron skin-20---------30
NR-3-----------------13
Bash-1---------------13
Stun-1---------------13
Con-20--------------32


Remember its an all-around barb.smartass2
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#2
I think like it's loking good.
If you can't solo yourself just get my bro to help you w/ his smiter but you should be able to do it by yourself.
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#3
Yeah i'll pm him if i need help. but my last barb could almost solo it, he just couldn't kill meph. But now with a nice lw my damage should be much more. But my attack speed will be much lower... Well thats kinda that point of this thread, trying to get pointers.
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#4
hm, well see, u should at least put one point in WW, its a lifesaver if ur surrounded and need to move somewhere to safety.
right now, u have 15 ias.. u wont be able to do anything with that, by the time u land a hit, u will have been hit 100 times. try to 40-15 ur SS too, since u wanna uber, u cant really change ur gloves..
use a MP enigma, and STR bug ur ass, BEFORE DUELING MAKE SURE IF U DIE U CAN PICK UP ALL UR ITEMS IF U DIE.

Try to go for around 5k life, if u str bug well u can easily reach that with maybe a few life charms and still get 75% block
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#5
k, thanx. Makes sense. And dose anyone know is howl (lvl 17) Would work in uber? It would br great to get the uber skeles away for a bit.
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#6
howl is awesome in uber. lvl17s more than fine. i suggest res/life charms. and, why enigma? why not use fort? my con can almost do ubers but he's nl so no lw for me. fort will give you more defense to manipulate with concentrate too. con barbs should have like 40k+ defense with max res. make the most of concentation, up all the stuff you can(gores for example).

Some tips for trist using con barb:

~hotkey howl, its a lifesaver. use it often because you have lots of defense. rather take one hit from uber than 10+ from minions.
~diablo and baal die very easily to con barbs, just lure them out and slowly kill them. Meph is the toughest so leave him for last(don't have diablo+baal minions on you)

If you haven't already, I'd see my guide before you uber: http://www.blizzsector.co/diablo-ii-disc...ubers.html

if this is one of your first ubers. if you've ubered before its not totally new info to you.
As long as darkness flows through my veins, I will never cease, As long as my dreams still haunt me, I will never show mercy, and as long as evil lives I will never die.....
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#7
Enigma for tele and 8% dr, the 2 skills are kinda nice to. But i looked into fort and did the calculations, it would work better for ubers. I'll just use nigma for key hunting and what not, and fort for ubers. Thanx.
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#8
For maximum damage you want grief and beast because of the ias of gried and ias from fana you'll do much more damage. If you insist on using a storm at all times then grief is still better because of a superior damage avarage and ias ofc. Higlord is by far the best barb ammy because of deadly strike (double damage) and ias. Concentration also does less damage than ww therefore i don't see much point in building any other than ww barbs. This build could work for pvm but not in pvp, full sigon mf sorcs will rip you apart.
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#9
Plain and simple, you need a shield too have any chance to solo uber with a barb. True grief+beast does more damage, but a SS with 40/15 is descent. And useing just a grief and ss would be a disaster. True, highlords would help with damage, if i find im not doing enough ill go back to that. But on my last build i used highlords, and it really wasnt that great. And if you have ever tryed to kill a boss in hell with a ww barb you should know exactly why ww would not work. Con is much, much faster for killing bosses. Trying to kill uber meph with ww is truly impossible alone. As as for pvp, my last barb was a ww barb with the only difference being highlords, and ebotd. And he was a very good bvb. If i find i suck at pvp ill just get 415% ebotd and highlords. By the way i never in my life have lost to a barb with 2 weps, that says something.
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#10
I manage to get nice block on my barb with base dex using tal belt, 25dex dancers and 2 ravens this setup allows me to take off block eq and use grief+beast for the rest of the time when i don't need a storm. I know what you mean about wwing bosses but if you don't click on them and just ww on them without obtaining namelock they go down really fast therefore i would stick to ww still. Why do you have difficult wwing meph to death? ;O The only one that is problematic is baal because he has mana burn.

In pvp a barb with a shield has a massive advantage over the other if he uses 2 weapons, I wouldn't be suprised over the fact that you won. Smile

Please use highlords no barb should ever take off that ammy except for angelic combo in rare cases.

I can make a demo video that shows how to ww meph to death if you want. ^^
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#11
i don't have a barb currently and i don't plan to make one any time soon but from what i know from experience i wil share.
you were totally right about using lw instead of grief/beast for two reasons. first, you wont last long without a shield, and second, lw has ignores target's defence. that is why smiters are so good vs ubers. don't listen to whoever says otherwise. also, u need a shield, and theres no point in using ww with a shield, for me at least, especially against ubers. and because your going to use a shield, conc is the right choice. like what people have said, just play around with him and see what works best. if it does work, please pm me cus i wont to know a build sides a smiter and zealer who can solo ubers.
also, with conc, you build up def, and mephs convic aura does -def, just another reason y ww is worse than conc vs ubers.
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#12
Loits Wrote:I can make a demo video that shows how to ww meph to death if you want. ^^

That would be really cool actually.

a_brick Wrote:i don't have a barb currently and i don't plan to make one any time soon but from what i know from experience i wil share.
you were totally right about using lw instead of grief/beast for two reasons. first, you wont last long without a shield, and second, lw has ignores target's defence. that is why smiters are so good vs ubers. don't listen to whoever says otherwise. also, u need a shield, and theres no point in using ww with a shield, for me at least, especially against ubers. and because your going to use a shield, conc is the right choice. like what people have said, just play around with him and see what works best. if it does work, please pm me cus i wont to know a build sides a smiter and zealer who can solo ubers.
also, with conc, you build up def, and mephs convic aura does -def, just another reason y ww is worse than conc vs ubers.


Yup, i planned on posting if it works or not. I should know in about 2-4 weeks, i still need to get some gear.
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#13
You need more IAS
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#14
Yeah, i knowconfused:. Have any gear suggestions? My last barb had a bit more, but much less damage. Keep in mind, he came close, just could never kill meph, but the 85%cb + more damage should do it.
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#15
also he'll either have a smiter with fant or an auradin with him most likely. so IAS will upp. i mean he's really going to want the more dammage more than the IAS. it comes down to killing them slower with more dammage or doing low dammage faster. it makes more sense to have more dammage. and i am currently working on creating a BO barb including a very high lvl BO,BC,Howl,and shout. so thos'll be removed from the build if your smart. idk if my Bro told you this or not. I have to get on more often. well i'll see you soon.
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#16
a_brick Wrote:i don't have a barb currently and i don't plan to make one any time soon but from what i know from experience i wil share.
you were totally right about using lw instead of grief/beast for two reasons. first, you wont last long without a shield, and second, lw has ignores target's defence. that is why smiters are so good vs ubers. don't listen to whoever says otherwise. also, u need a shield, and theres no point in using ww with a shield, for me at least, especially against ubers. and because your going to use a shield, conc is the right choice. like what people have said, just play around with him and see what works best. if it does work, please pm me cus i wont to know a build sides a smiter and zealer who can solo ubers.
also, with conc, you build up def, and mephs convic aura does -def, just another reason y ww is worse than conc vs ubers.

Resons why i think your suggestion is crap:

1) You can easily survive without a shield if you have enough leech.
2) Ignore targets defence works on normal monsters not on uniques.
3) Don't even start comparing smite to any barb skill, smite has nothing to do with ignore targets defence.
4) Mephs convic aura is useless against defence, it might reduce your total def by 100 or so.
5) If you are making a barb to beat ubers then frenzy would be the best choice.

To be honest if you are not making a ww barb then you should go for a frenzy build but frenzy barb has no chance in pvp. Conc and berserk were useful skills at one point but not in 1.10/1.11.

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I'll make that video as soon as i get home, i'm on a small holiday atm.
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