Battle Cry

[XKazeCloudX]

I would like to know if Battle Cry in pvp lowers the enemies percentage of total damage, or percentage of base damage. Thankyou somebody please answer.

[RaZzor]

Total damage as logical

[XKazeCloudX]

okay thanks is there anybody that can confirm that? just to make sure.

[Ares]

its not really worth it.. but it loweres defence i think.. test it yout with a buddy

[XKazeCloudX]

not really worth it? well my bro made a supporter barb all hes gonna do is lower ppl damage and bo us. and skill calculator says that it will lower 60% of opponents damage. so i was wondering would this apply to pvp. and ill test it out but i dont want to remake if it doesnt work.

[Ares]

rofl its pointless why the hell would u make a char to support another.. if he cant do anything himself.. thats said if you cant kill someone without a "supporter char" just get better items.. if you wanta good support get a Chanter awsome dmg right there but a war cry barb no man.. dont do it

[XKazeCloudX]

no im using my wind druid. my brother has no skills he is 10. he will have casters equipment doing leap LOL. just to have some fun so everybody gets stun and i will kill. my friend thought of this up and i guess ill try. and also my smiter can duel other people easier if their defence and damage was droped too. so. i dont think anyitems can do something like leap, and barbs bo is a great plus. and we call it team duels.

[Ares]

team duels... he doesnt duel tho he just precasts and leaves.. BM there buddy. just have him go fight hell andy or w/e man duel legit.

[XKazeCloudX]

no hes a warcry barb. hes going to use warcry. or battlecry im not sure >_< im so noob. so being warcry isnt bm is it? hes going to run at ppl using warcry. its like an assasin running to people using mb.

[FraterPerdurabo]

Its not BM, its EZ, that barb wont survive an mf sorc. By the way, if its for the 2 of you its pointless because tornado and hurricane always hit so you dont need ar or def.

[XKazeCloudX]

no my friend has a smiter with windforce, i think thats what its called, we make a game out of it. we protect the barb, while the barb leaps constantly. the pally is a very good smiter and his windforce also does 1k or so, so when people try coming to us i tele towards them and cast nado. not many people can even reach the barb. again we make it like a game "protect the barb at all cost" and yes it was very fun. people was immobolized, even if they can get out the 2 second delay gave me time to tele on them and spam. so yeah thats how we do it, we weren't in a noob game and the barb only died twice when we werent looking and the smiter and me never died.

so enemys defence and damage lowering is useful for the smiter when we really need it.

[Ares]

lol i see this as ez pk../ ur all in a group.. perfect PERFECT target for a fireball.. smiter with windforce.. wow.. oksimple as hell.. man you guys need a better stratagy.. did you ever face a orb sorc? did you thinkof that? like 1k bolts everywere..i dont think its a good dueling stratagy

[XKazeCloudX]

yeah i did, it was ez. what would be one of YOUR great strategy? and in a group doesnt mean that we are one yard away from each other. especialy the orb sorc gets stun easily and i tele on her and if she gets away the arrows are gonna get her. and the smiter with fanatic windforce guided arrows chase her down she cant get close without taking huge damage.

and besides the smiter charges and 3-4 hit kills her if not less.

i also find it extremely easy for my smiter to charge around avoiding her orbs. also teleing around.

and if you say ur sorc is too fast there will be a constant stream of guided arrows following her if she gets too close those arrows will surely hit her while the barb stuns her with leap, and ill be spamming nados everywhere and 5 dogs 5 ravens and a hurricane pecking at her. and you are really underestimating my recasting speed.

and the smiter can always switch and charge at her at will.

so this is how much the sorc has to worry about, Pally Charge, 1k of fanaticism charged guided arrows, leap stun you constantly, 7k tornado, and the chaotic screen of dogs and hurricane.

[Awperator]

okay im gonna say it


WHAT THE ****?

a SMITER with a WINDFORCE?

WINDFORCE IS A BOW
SMITERS USE SHIELDS TO BASH THEIR ENEMIES WITH IT

WTF?! ARE U AN IDIOT OR AM I STUPID?

I THINK YOU ARE AN IDIOT

[Loits]

okay im gonna say it


WHAT THE ****?

a SMITER with a WINDFORCE?

WINDFORCE IS A BOW
SMITERS USE SHIELDS TO BASH THEIR ENEMIES WITH IT

WTF?! ARE U AN IDIOT OR AM I STUPID?

I THINK YOU ARE AN IDIOT

Post your dumb flame somewhere else. There are unique builds out there such as melee sorcs, ench sorcs with widow, widow barbs and so on. They might not be as effective as some other builds are but some like to be different.

[Awperator]

Post your dumb flame somewhere else. There are unique builds out there such as melee sorcs, ench sorcs with widow, widow barbs and so on. They might not be as effective as some other builds are but some like to be different.

Oh im sorry, i did not know he was your significant other.

[Loits]

Oh im sorry, i did not know he was your significant other.

You got over that e-rage now?

[FraterPerdurabo]

Ok, I'll explain you why -%enemy's defence, or -%enemy's damage for that matter won't work well at PvP.

There are no PvP chars that I could think of at the moment (maybe Fury Druid) that would depend on raw damage, i.e. just item based damage and no auras. A barb has Beast, giving him Fanatiscm, as do all melee palas. Bowzons use Faith, all other PvPers are elemental/magical or unblockable phyical (Wind Druid).

Now, your avarage Smiter will have his damage increased by 400% by Fanatiscm (400% is a nice round number), so if you reduced his damage by 50% or so, he would only get a bonud of 350%, meaning that it's just like having lvl 25 Fana instead of lvl 27. The difference is marginal.

Same goes for reduce target's defence (ITD does not work in PvP). Any char whose defence is limited to what they are wearing (almost any char, except for pala and barb) will get hit anyway, because their defence is so low.

Now Palas have Holy Shield (%edefence) and barbs have Shout and Iron Skin (%edefence), so instead of getting i.e. +400%edefence, they will only get +350%.

Difference is minute, so if I were you, I would not really concentrate on such things.