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ok well i know the skills to max but question is in what order?? I have already maxed BO, put 10 into WW so i could have a positive dmg effect... i dumped like 8 or so already into Axe mastery so i can have some crit strike dmg... But what i want to know is in what order to max the rest.. or plain n simple if i did something out of order what the correct order is for maximum results. It will be a BVC build
20 Bo
20 shout
20 WW
20 Axe mastery
and i guess ill dump 20 more into iron skin
not sure, 1st barb i've made that i care about getting past lvl 80
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I would put some into the Resist Mastery or the R/W mastery.
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09-12-2006, 12:47 PM
(This post was last modified: 09-12-2006, 12:47 PM by PoTatoes.)
plain and simple, doesnt matter which order you max out (preferably the ones that keep you alive) You might wanna put some into iron skin and a few into the skill that adds res.
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dam vakat1 beet me to it :[
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iron skin max it and one into natural res the skills will give you all you need.
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The best BvC:
20 BO
20 Axe Mastery
20 WW
20 Leap
1-5 Natural Resis (only 1 point if you get 4x5@/5%FHR)
1+ Increased Speed, so you have at least lvl 14 with all gear variations
rest Shout
Stats:
All VIT
none in STR, DEX, ENE
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FraterPerdurabo Wrote:The best BvC:
20 BO
20 Axe Mastery
20 WW
20 Leap
1-5 Natural Resis (only 1 point if you get 4x5@/5%FHR)
1+ Increased Speed, so you have at least lvl 14 with all gear variations
rest Shout
Stats:
All VIT
none in STR, DEX, ENE
woah no wonder my bvc barbs always sucked. i'd always add some into str but then i noticed my charms up my str enough to wear nigma and so then i can wear everything else.
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PoTaToes Wrote:woah no wonder my bvc barbs always sucked. i'd always add some into str but then i noticed my charms up my str enough to wear nigma and so then i can wear everything else.
30 base
20 anni
20 torch
40 beast
= 110 points, so you don't need STR charms, they are a waste. However, don't for for higher Enigma than Dusk, since you'll need to have it equipped with your switch as well (BO weapons, 2xDoom, Widowmaker UM).
So basically, inv is:
anni
torch
1 fire damage sc
4x5@/5%
rest 3/20/20
=gg
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Daddy_XL Wrote:ok well i know the skills to max but question is in what order?? I have already maxed BO, put 10 into WW so i could have a positive dmg effect... i dumped like 8 or so already into Axe mastery so i can have some crit strike dmg... But what i want to know is in what order to max the rest.. or plain n simple if i did something out of order what the correct order is for maximum results. It will be a BVC build
20 Bo
20 shout
20 WW
20 Axe mastery
and i guess ill dump 20 more into iron skin
not sure, 1st barb i've made that i care about getting past lvl 80
BvC doesn't really need defense, as any BvB will rape you anyways.
as frater said, BO, Axe Mas, WW, Leap should all be maxed first. from there take your pick. here's the best BvC guide, take a look:
http://www.battle.net/forums/thread.aspx...post221726
Invisible is wrong about Iron Skin, as i stated above. A BvC does not need to max anything regarding defense. You will always lose vs a BvB and perhaps some extremely high str pallys. As usual he should research his builds before posting nonsense. Anyway, read that guide and take what you can from it. GL bro
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leap only needs to be lvl 26, so u can leap for screen and get all the knock back effects
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crimson-tide Wrote:leap only needs to be lvl 26, so u can leap for screen and get all the knock back effects I believe that it's 24, but the more the better.
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I always max leap because it gives massive advantages to you especially in team duels. Some noobs think that you have diminishing returns when you put more points into leap, that is incorrect! Every point increases knockback radius by the same amount, the number show is the leapable distance.
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yes, but theres really no point to max leap, once you can get full knock back effects its ok, i mean ur not gonna be able to target someone far away unless u use hacks
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Loits Wrote:I always max leap because it gives massive advantages to you especially in team duels. Some noobs think that you have diminishing returns when you put more points into leap, that is incorrect! Every point increases knockback radius by the same amount, the number show is the leapable distance.
oh so those guys saying to stop at 23 are wrong right?
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PoTaToes Wrote:oh so those guys saying to stop at 23 are wrong right? Not exactly, it's a matter of taste, but 23 is minimum. I'd seriously recommend putting more points into it.
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09-30-2006, 09:24 AM
(This post was last modified: 09-30-2006, 09:24 AM by crimson-tide.)
id have to agree with frater, but really most bvcs stop at 26 just checked guides and stuff to make sure its right, 26 is the minimum, at 26 you will be able to knock them back from all the way across the screen, you can go higher but it is a waste in most bvcs opinions...
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frater its 26 lol
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What other options are there that a bvc can max? shout? LOL
With deafult you should have the following skills:
20 ww
20 mastery
1-5 resi if your charms suck but if they do then forget about making a bvc (1 point recommended)
20 bo
20 leap (i'm a long time barb player and i've experimented with 1 point in leap 14 and maxed, maxed is definately the best option. why? fb soso is a real pain to duel if they have gosu es and max block and they have the advantage of range from where they can spam you with fbs therefore even if you can't namelock + gg ww them then maxed leap will hinder their spamming and hence keep you alive longer. Same with blizzard, if they can see you from the edge of their screen they can blizz you and in hell 2 blizz hits = gg therefore it's much safer to use maxed leap and keep them away from you hence giving you a advantage since you can choose when to attack.)
7 points in increased speed so that with eni+charms+coa (minimum + skills eq) you'll have lvl 14 increased speed. Increased speed is important in duels vs smiter and it helps you desync aswell)
Rest into shout, it deally doesn't matter how high you get it since you really don't have to rely on high defence. If your argument is that you wanna duel other ww babas then alt+f4 and go outside.
I hope i didn't miss anything out.
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lol, imo those 7 lvls into increased speed help u run away from bvb's and bva's lol. pisses me off when bvcs just run from my bvb  .. i can usually get 1 duel out of bvcs , but then they wont duel me anymore lmao
i never though about leap that way, but yes i guess any ranged caster u would need taht for, but it would probably be better to just tele away from their fire balls seeing how ur using engima .. lol
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Ever heard of or seen desync fireballs? 200 fcr sosos desync evey third one. How does your eni+seeing ability help you there?
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Just stick to Loits and Frater, they seriously know what they're talking about
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