10-05-2006, 04:41 AM
Vindi/Charger guide 3.1 By KIingKazzer aka. JayKazzer, kazzer
Index:
-Introduction
-updates
-Speed Charts
-----------Fhr breakpoints
-----------Fbr breakpoints
-----------Ias breakpoints
-Character setup
-----------Stats
-----------Skills
-The Gear
-----------Armour
-----------Weapon
-----------Helms
-----------Shields
-----------Belts
-----------Gloves
-----------Boots
-----------Amulets
-----------Rings
-----------Charms
-----------Melee setup
-----------caster setup
-Dueling strategies (under construction)
-----------Sorc
-----------Hammerdin/foh
-----------Smiter/Zealot/Charger
-----------Auradin
-----------Barbs
-----------Necromancers
-----------Trap assassins
-----------WW assassins
-----------Windy Druids
-----------Claw Druids
-----------Bowazons
-----------Javazons
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=====================
Introduction:
================================================== =====================
I believe the smiter (Vindicator) to be a very good, if not the best, melee dueling chars in diablo but
are very weak against casters in the wrong hands. i hope to correct this with a small guide that will
hopefully clear some things up.
================================================== =====================
Updates
================================================== =====================
1.0 ~ first post!
1.1 ~ edited names, stats and spelling.
1.2 ~ added some items to the build creating a better more diverse build.
2.0 ~ made more spell checks and more item/strategy changes.
3.0 ~ i got rid of all dupes and redid alot of the structure also added some other items and leaned much more to smite vs smite and smite vs caster style builds. as well i changed ias to be the values
u will use to get frames rather than actual ias.
3.1 ~ a few minor aditions such as str glitch method and how to make eth pb grief. also some changes in strategy section.
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SpeedCharts
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FHR Frames
0% -> 9
7% -> 8
15% -> 7
27% -> 6
48% -> 5
86% -> 4
200% -> 3
FBR Frames
w/o Holy Shield:
0% -> 5
13% -> 4
32% -> 3
86% -> 2
600% -> 1
w/ Holy Shield:
0% -> 2
86% -> 1
Ias breakpoint for Zerker axe:
60% ias = 6 frames
Ias breakpoint for Phase Blade
40% ias = 6 frames
Both breakpoints w/ lvl 20 Fanaticism (+35% ias)
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Character setup
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Stats:
STR: base (if u use melee gear and caster gear stated)
DEX: enough for 75% block with holy shield on ( if this is smite vs smite then do NOT put points here except for gear)
VITA: As much as you see fit
ENERGY: none.
Skills:
Smite- max
Charge- 1-20
Fanat- Max
Holy shield- max
Vigor - 1-20 depending on who u duel most (vs smiter or caster max this for extra speed and charge dmg)
Defiance- 1-10 not much needed here if you use exile
Salvation- 1
Rest in prereqs.
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The gear
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This is made purely for PvP so there aren't many cheap alturnatives in this guide. I believe if u can't build w/ these items don't duel necromancer/smiter. They will be most difficult to duel even w/ the item selection here.
Armor: quote from arreat summit:"Armor can affect your ability to run. Heavier armor depletes your
stamina more quickly. This can be offset to some extent by increasing your character's vitality."
1.Enigma (Mp, Ds, Ap)
2.CoH(AP, DS. use this in ap w/ non up eth/zod hoz for str glitch look)
3.Shaftstop (this is the best poormans choice in armor easy dr and life as well as good defence if ethereal/up)
4.Guardian angel templar coat (this is considered BM because of the max res but good for pvm)
5. Stone this is only good for the defence never use this vs smiter it's pointless...)
Weapon:quotes from arreat summit:"Does Poison Damage stack?
No. No poisoning effects stack. If the poison damage inflicted per second of a poison attack is greater
than the poison damage inflicted per second of an already applied attack, the new attack will cancel outthe old one. If the new attack inflicts less poison damage per second than the previous, the new poison is ignored." i take this as, if u have a 290 pison charm and a lower poison charm the 290 charm will be the only 1 to affect dmg.
1.Grief the best smiter weapon.(use in phase blade. A good way to make an eth pb is to get a eth dimensonal blade and up it)
2.Lacerator this is a good weapon to use but I see it as bm due to ctc amp.
3.Silence for the 75% res aganst casters(i use in Pb)
4.Last wish for crushing blow which helps against ubers
5.Astreons ironward very good weapon but grief is much much better
6.Heaven's light the +3 skills and the 2os makes this item very attractive (against uber/clone socket this w/ 2 bers against every one else shaels)
7.Kingslayer (only use if you are desperate)
Helms:
1.Shako w/ ber for melee Um for caster
2.CoA w/ ber ber
3.andarials visage w/ um
4.a rare +2 pally helm (circlet is best) w/ res, stats, and fhr if you can swing it. plus if u can 2soc it put 2 bers or jah/cham in it.
Shield:
This is where ur damage will come from so your best choice is a HoZ up'd because of obvious reasons. also if u are going for a glitched look don't up it but eth/zod it and use ap coh.
1.up'd eth HoZ w/ ber
2.exile (kurast, vortex, sac targe, or zakarum shield)
3.non up'd HoZw/ ber or um
4.Griswold's honor w/ 3xum (good for caster dueling and vs uber meph)
shield for str glitch:
1. non up'd eth hoz soc w/ zod
Belt:
1.Verdungo's
2.Thundergod's vigor (more than 1 abs is bm)
3.nosferatu's
4.cendendum(only use w/ LoH and only against ubers/clone)
Gloves:
1.Draculs grasp
2.Crafted blood
3.Blood fist (best choice for non-BM duels)
4.LoH(lying of the hands use only w/ crendendum and only aginst ubers/clone)
Boots:
1.Gore riders (use this if u want the ds/cb and the 30%fr/w)
2.Sandtreks (i would use this if u don't have nigma on for more str to use othe items)
3. Morrow walks (these give str and dex which is well nedded for the use on a pb)
4.rare/crafted boots w/ r/w, res, stats
5.infernostride (only for fire res if u really need it)
6.hot spurs (BMBMBMBMBM these are very BM and may people will be very annoyed by these)
Amulet:
1.Mara's possibly the best unique ammy for smiter(res may not be needed if u use coh)
2.highlords (very very good for ba users due to the 20 ias ds for charge and 1 skill)
3.Seraph for the 2 extra points in to defience vigor etc.(pointless for smite but good to use w/ vigor because i don't like teleing w/ nigma)
Rings:
1.Raven frost + Bul katho's
2.Raven frost + Any rare ring w/ res, stats
3.2xRaven frost (more than 1 abs is bm)
4.2xWisps (more than 1 abs is bm)
5.2xDwarf star (more than 1 abs is bm)
Charms:
9x 35+ life Pcombs
10x 20 life /15 all res
Pally Torch
15+ res/stat anni
or
9x Pcombs + 12% Fhr
5x 20 life /5 all res
5x 3/20/20
Pally Torch
15+ res/stat anni
Melee setup:
Armor: Enigma
Weapon:Grief (in Phase blade)
Helm: shako w/ ber, andarial's visage w/40%ed/15% all res (only use when fighting a wwsin or psn javazon)
Shield: Hoz up'd w/ber, Exile Vortex
Belt: Verdungo's, tgods vs foh/cser
Boots: Sandtreks, gore rider
Gloves: Dracs,Blood fists
Amulet: Maras, highlords
Rings: Raven frost + Bul Kathos
Charms:2-3x 12% Fhr Pcombs
6-7 30-50 lifer pcombs
5x 20/5
5x 3/20/20
Pally Torch
20 stat anni
Caster setup:
Armor: CoH
Weapon: Silence(phase blade)/greif (Phaseblade, zerker if using high lords)
Helm: kira's w/um, Shako w/ um
Shield: up'd HoZ w/ um
belt: Tgod's (only when fighting foh pally or lit sorc) /Verdungo's
Boots: rare boots w/ high res, stats, 30% r/w
Gloves: Dracs/Crafted for psn res vs P/B necros
Amulet: maras, high lords vs foh/lit soso
Rings: 1xRaven frost, 1xWisps (lit sorb don't use this if u have tgods on), 1xDwarf star (fire sorb), bk or str dex ring w/ res and life.
Charms:9x 30-50 lifer pcombs
10x 20/5
Pally Torch
20 res/stat anni
i did some tests! it seems that in 1.11 the cookie cutter max block smiter using forti does less dmg and has less life than the enigma build. to get best results use enigma in a mage plate.
the tests show that w/ my build using nigma/forti, it takes 4-5 hits but enigma gets your opponents life lower w/ less hits.
either build is awsome but u will probably get better results w/ nigma build or coh build.
these tests were done smiter vs smiter.
================================================== =====================
Dueling strategies
================================================== =====================
Please keep in mind that these ratings on how difficult it is to duel some of these characters IS based on my own experience. u may find some of them ezer or harder depending on how u duel and how well ur smiter is built.
Sorc:
Use dwarf and raven + Tgods depending on what kind of sorc u are dueling (raven, dwarf, wisp), and 1 of the resistance auras.
To avoid the spells try running with charge until they run out of mana, or u can just charge and hope for the best. they should
do little damage to you if you have the correct gear. Depending on your skill selection you may do little damage, but from
my experiences with sorcs, they almost always seem to have lower life than they should. shouldn't be too difficult if you are cautious.
difficulty: ***
Hammderin/ Foh pally:
Use half caster and half melee for fighting these because some can smite (v/t) and if made smite oriented then use 1 wisp and melee gear.
hammerdins:get under them their hammers should be furthest away from them making it harder for them to hit you.
Use as much Lit resist as possible vs fohers and chase em down.
difficulty:*** to *****
Smiter/zealot/charger:
these are the most fun duels I can think of
use your melee gear and have fun smiting watch out for cold dmg as it will slow dowm your smit as well as your fhr vs other smiters most smiters will try to use holy freeze but this will sacrifice alot of dmg to slow down there opponent try to get first hit.
difficulty: ** to *****
Auradins:
Some of these duelers are good and some are pathetic...
If you happen to find a decent one watch out they can hurt.
Use half caster and half melee w/ 1 resist aura try to charge them then smite the hell out of em and hope for the best.
difficulty:* to ***
Barbs:
Use your melee and walk if they are WW barbs. if you find a pure berserker barb then use melee and as much life as you can.
this should be a very hard duel if not then the barb is not made correctly.
difficulty: ****
Necromancers:
Use your melee gear. do NOT hit their clay golem, god knows they all use em lol. if u get close and have more than half your health smite em as fast as u can. bone spear really hurts at that range.
difficulty: *****
trap assassin:
Use your caster gear and get them fast or charge around them until u see an openning then charge/smite them. Remember always try to strike first.
Difficulty: ** to ****
WW sins:
Use melee gear and 1 wisp for sorbing traps. this is almost the same as a barb ww but sins use open wounds and poison to do damage
to try to shift smite them into submission. also some use traps and most of the time the traps do nothing but be careful when using melee gear.
Difficulty: **
Windy Druids:
Use caster gear and 2 raven frosts to over come these monsters.
They will probably use tele so let them come to you. lure them to a corner and if you are lucky enough they may not have that much Fhr.
difficulty: ** to ****
Claw Druids:
Use melee gear and as much fhr as you possibly can.
They will probably use cold damage so a raven frost is a must. Some of these killers can get majorly fast and run circles around you so wait
til they get close and Boom charger/smite em til they die or give up.
Difficulty: ***
Bowazon:
Use melee gear and please do not attempt to duel them while lagging. Most of these amazons use guided arrow so run your butt off!
Get close then smite charge them to death. use vigor when charging.
difficulty: ***
Javazons:
use half caster half melee and use 1 wisp and 1 raven frost. They will probably use lit damage and cold damage to slow you down.
Charge them then smite them to your hearts content.
Difficulty:* to ***
P.S. i plan an branching out the claw druid section in to cold druid etc. and i like it if someone could aid me in figuring out seperate dueling strategies for each.
to contact me email me at [email protected] or pm on ladderhall.com.
================================================== ======================
Thanks to
================================================== ======================
Arreats summit for the info and clan-DoG as well as AkA-Realm for providing me w/ more info on smitres for the gear to make this happen
to all people who have dueled against my smiters DoG-Bert, shenks, heavyhitter and V-smiterion for the testing of this build.
joz for info on lacerator
Josh/seek/RoF-seek for helping w/ Mp enigma and Dusk CoH builds, also thanks for the str glitching method.
Alexis Machine (Alexis) for helping me gear smiter on pbi realm
Hope u liked this guide and plz rate this on a scale of 1-10 and leave suggestions
Index:
-Introduction
-updates
-Speed Charts
-----------Fhr breakpoints
-----------Fbr breakpoints
-----------Ias breakpoints
-Character setup
-----------Stats
-----------Skills
-The Gear
-----------Armour
-----------Weapon
-----------Helms
-----------Shields
-----------Belts
-----------Gloves
-----------Boots
-----------Amulets
-----------Rings
-----------Charms
-----------Melee setup
-----------caster setup
-Dueling strategies (under construction)
-----------Sorc
-----------Hammerdin/foh
-----------Smiter/Zealot/Charger
-----------Auradin
-----------Barbs
-----------Necromancers
-----------Trap assassins
-----------WW assassins
-----------Windy Druids
-----------Claw Druids
-----------Bowazons
-----------Javazons
==================================================
=====================
Introduction:
================================================== =====================
I believe the smiter (Vindicator) to be a very good, if not the best, melee dueling chars in diablo but
are very weak against casters in the wrong hands. i hope to correct this with a small guide that will
hopefully clear some things up.
================================================== =====================
Updates
================================================== =====================
1.0 ~ first post!
1.1 ~ edited names, stats and spelling.
1.2 ~ added some items to the build creating a better more diverse build.
2.0 ~ made more spell checks and more item/strategy changes.
3.0 ~ i got rid of all dupes and redid alot of the structure also added some other items and leaned much more to smite vs smite and smite vs caster style builds. as well i changed ias to be the values
u will use to get frames rather than actual ias.
3.1 ~ a few minor aditions such as str glitch method and how to make eth pb grief. also some changes in strategy section.
================================================== =====================
SpeedCharts
================================================== =====================
FHR Frames
0% -> 9
7% -> 8
15% -> 7
27% -> 6
48% -> 5
86% -> 4
200% -> 3
FBR Frames
w/o Holy Shield:
0% -> 5
13% -> 4
32% -> 3
86% -> 2
600% -> 1
w/ Holy Shield:
0% -> 2
86% -> 1
Ias breakpoint for Zerker axe:
60% ias = 6 frames
Ias breakpoint for Phase Blade
40% ias = 6 frames
Both breakpoints w/ lvl 20 Fanaticism (+35% ias)
================================================== =====================
Character setup
================================================== =====================
Stats:
STR: base (if u use melee gear and caster gear stated)
DEX: enough for 75% block with holy shield on ( if this is smite vs smite then do NOT put points here except for gear)
VITA: As much as you see fit
ENERGY: none.
Skills:
Smite- max
Charge- 1-20
Fanat- Max
Holy shield- max
Vigor - 1-20 depending on who u duel most (vs smiter or caster max this for extra speed and charge dmg)
Defiance- 1-10 not much needed here if you use exile
Salvation- 1
Rest in prereqs.
================================================== =====================
The gear
================================================== =====================
This is made purely for PvP so there aren't many cheap alturnatives in this guide. I believe if u can't build w/ these items don't duel necromancer/smiter. They will be most difficult to duel even w/ the item selection here.
Armor: quote from arreat summit:"Armor can affect your ability to run. Heavier armor depletes your
stamina more quickly. This can be offset to some extent by increasing your character's vitality."
1.Enigma (Mp, Ds, Ap)
2.CoH(AP, DS. use this in ap w/ non up eth/zod hoz for str glitch look)
3.Shaftstop (this is the best poormans choice in armor easy dr and life as well as good defence if ethereal/up)
4.Guardian angel templar coat (this is considered BM because of the max res but good for pvm)
5. Stone this is only good for the defence never use this vs smiter it's pointless...)
Weapon:quotes from arreat summit:"Does Poison Damage stack?
No. No poisoning effects stack. If the poison damage inflicted per second of a poison attack is greater
than the poison damage inflicted per second of an already applied attack, the new attack will cancel outthe old one. If the new attack inflicts less poison damage per second than the previous, the new poison is ignored." i take this as, if u have a 290 pison charm and a lower poison charm the 290 charm will be the only 1 to affect dmg.
1.Grief the best smiter weapon.(use in phase blade. A good way to make an eth pb is to get a eth dimensonal blade and up it)
2.Lacerator this is a good weapon to use but I see it as bm due to ctc amp.
3.Silence for the 75% res aganst casters(i use in Pb)
4.Last wish for crushing blow which helps against ubers
5.Astreons ironward very good weapon but grief is much much better
6.Heaven's light the +3 skills and the 2os makes this item very attractive (against uber/clone socket this w/ 2 bers against every one else shaels)
7.Kingslayer (only use if you are desperate)
Helms:
1.Shako w/ ber for melee Um for caster
2.CoA w/ ber ber
3.andarials visage w/ um
4.a rare +2 pally helm (circlet is best) w/ res, stats, and fhr if you can swing it. plus if u can 2soc it put 2 bers or jah/cham in it.
Shield:
This is where ur damage will come from so your best choice is a HoZ up'd because of obvious reasons. also if u are going for a glitched look don't up it but eth/zod it and use ap coh.
1.up'd eth HoZ w/ ber
2.exile (kurast, vortex, sac targe, or zakarum shield)
3.non up'd HoZw/ ber or um
4.Griswold's honor w/ 3xum (good for caster dueling and vs uber meph)
shield for str glitch:
1. non up'd eth hoz soc w/ zod
Belt:
1.Verdungo's
2.Thundergod's vigor (more than 1 abs is bm)
3.nosferatu's
4.cendendum(only use w/ LoH and only against ubers/clone)
Gloves:
1.Draculs grasp
2.Crafted blood
3.Blood fist (best choice for non-BM duels)
4.LoH(lying of the hands use only w/ crendendum and only aginst ubers/clone)
Boots:
1.Gore riders (use this if u want the ds/cb and the 30%fr/w)
2.Sandtreks (i would use this if u don't have nigma on for more str to use othe items)
3. Morrow walks (these give str and dex which is well nedded for the use on a pb)
4.rare/crafted boots w/ r/w, res, stats
5.infernostride (only for fire res if u really need it)
6.hot spurs (BMBMBMBMBM these are very BM and may people will be very annoyed by these)
Amulet:
1.Mara's possibly the best unique ammy for smiter(res may not be needed if u use coh)
2.highlords (very very good for ba users due to the 20 ias ds for charge and 1 skill)
3.Seraph for the 2 extra points in to defience vigor etc.(pointless for smite but good to use w/ vigor because i don't like teleing w/ nigma)
Rings:
1.Raven frost + Bul katho's
2.Raven frost + Any rare ring w/ res, stats
3.2xRaven frost (more than 1 abs is bm)
4.2xWisps (more than 1 abs is bm)
5.2xDwarf star (more than 1 abs is bm)
Charms:
9x 35+ life Pcombs
10x 20 life /15 all res
Pally Torch
15+ res/stat anni
or
9x Pcombs + 12% Fhr
5x 20 life /5 all res
5x 3/20/20
Pally Torch
15+ res/stat anni
Melee setup:
Armor: Enigma
Weapon:Grief (in Phase blade)
Helm: shako w/ ber, andarial's visage w/40%ed/15% all res (only use when fighting a wwsin or psn javazon)
Shield: Hoz up'd w/ber, Exile Vortex
Belt: Verdungo's, tgods vs foh/cser
Boots: Sandtreks, gore rider
Gloves: Dracs,Blood fists
Amulet: Maras, highlords
Rings: Raven frost + Bul Kathos
Charms:2-3x 12% Fhr Pcombs
6-7 30-50 lifer pcombs
5x 20/5
5x 3/20/20
Pally Torch
20 stat anni
Caster setup:
Armor: CoH
Weapon: Silence(phase blade)/greif (Phaseblade, zerker if using high lords)
Helm: kira's w/um, Shako w/ um
Shield: up'd HoZ w/ um
belt: Tgod's (only when fighting foh pally or lit sorc) /Verdungo's
Boots: rare boots w/ high res, stats, 30% r/w
Gloves: Dracs/Crafted for psn res vs P/B necros
Amulet: maras, high lords vs foh/lit soso
Rings: 1xRaven frost, 1xWisps (lit sorb don't use this if u have tgods on), 1xDwarf star (fire sorb), bk or str dex ring w/ res and life.
Charms:9x 30-50 lifer pcombs
10x 20/5
Pally Torch
20 res/stat anni
i did some tests! it seems that in 1.11 the cookie cutter max block smiter using forti does less dmg and has less life than the enigma build. to get best results use enigma in a mage plate.
the tests show that w/ my build using nigma/forti, it takes 4-5 hits but enigma gets your opponents life lower w/ less hits.
either build is awsome but u will probably get better results w/ nigma build or coh build.
these tests were done smiter vs smiter.
================================================== =====================
Dueling strategies
================================================== =====================
Please keep in mind that these ratings on how difficult it is to duel some of these characters IS based on my own experience. u may find some of them ezer or harder depending on how u duel and how well ur smiter is built.
Sorc:
Use dwarf and raven + Tgods depending on what kind of sorc u are dueling (raven, dwarf, wisp), and 1 of the resistance auras.
To avoid the spells try running with charge until they run out of mana, or u can just charge and hope for the best. they should
do little damage to you if you have the correct gear. Depending on your skill selection you may do little damage, but from
my experiences with sorcs, they almost always seem to have lower life than they should. shouldn't be too difficult if you are cautious.
difficulty: ***
Hammderin/ Foh pally:
Use half caster and half melee for fighting these because some can smite (v/t) and if made smite oriented then use 1 wisp and melee gear.
hammerdins:get under them their hammers should be furthest away from them making it harder for them to hit you.
Use as much Lit resist as possible vs fohers and chase em down.
difficulty:*** to *****
Smiter/zealot/charger:
these are the most fun duels I can think of
use your melee gear and have fun smiting watch out for cold dmg as it will slow dowm your smit as well as your fhr vs other smiters most smiters will try to use holy freeze but this will sacrifice alot of dmg to slow down there opponent try to get first hit.
difficulty: ** to *****
Auradins:
Some of these duelers are good and some are pathetic...
If you happen to find a decent one watch out they can hurt.
Use half caster and half melee w/ 1 resist aura try to charge them then smite the hell out of em and hope for the best.
difficulty:* to ***
Barbs:
Use your melee and walk if they are WW barbs. if you find a pure berserker barb then use melee and as much life as you can.
this should be a very hard duel if not then the barb is not made correctly.
difficulty: ****
Necromancers:
Use your melee gear. do NOT hit their clay golem, god knows they all use em lol. if u get close and have more than half your health smite em as fast as u can. bone spear really hurts at that range.
difficulty: *****
trap assassin:
Use your caster gear and get them fast or charge around them until u see an openning then charge/smite them. Remember always try to strike first.
Difficulty: ** to ****
WW sins:
Use melee gear and 1 wisp for sorbing traps. this is almost the same as a barb ww but sins use open wounds and poison to do damage
to try to shift smite them into submission. also some use traps and most of the time the traps do nothing but be careful when using melee gear.
Difficulty: **
Windy Druids:
Use caster gear and 2 raven frosts to over come these monsters.
They will probably use tele so let them come to you. lure them to a corner and if you are lucky enough they may not have that much Fhr.
difficulty: ** to ****
Claw Druids:
Use melee gear and as much fhr as you possibly can.
They will probably use cold damage so a raven frost is a must. Some of these killers can get majorly fast and run circles around you so wait
til they get close and Boom charger/smite em til they die or give up.
Difficulty: ***
Bowazon:
Use melee gear and please do not attempt to duel them while lagging. Most of these amazons use guided arrow so run your butt off!
Get close then smite charge them to death. use vigor when charging.
difficulty: ***
Javazons:
use half caster half melee and use 1 wisp and 1 raven frost. They will probably use lit damage and cold damage to slow you down.
Charge them then smite them to your hearts content.
Difficulty:* to ***
P.S. i plan an branching out the claw druid section in to cold druid etc. and i like it if someone could aid me in figuring out seperate dueling strategies for each.
to contact me email me at [email protected] or pm on ladderhall.com.
================================================== ======================
Thanks to
================================================== ======================
Arreats summit for the info and clan-DoG as well as AkA-Realm for providing me w/ more info on smitres for the gear to make this happen

to all people who have dueled against my smiters DoG-Bert, shenks, heavyhitter and V-smiterion for the testing of this build.
joz for info on lacerator
Josh/seek/RoF-seek for helping w/ Mp enigma and Dusk CoH builds, also thanks for the str glitching method.
Alexis Machine (Alexis) for helping me gear smiter on pbi realm
Hope u liked this guide and plz rate this on a scale of 1-10 and leave suggestions