Anyone read Eragon/Eldest?

[AngelOfSin]

Just wondering if anyone read them or saw the movie....i have read both books (which i thot were very good) and then i saw the movie and i was thoroughly disapointed in it. I realize that the movie cant include every detail becuase of time/budget but i mean cmon they couldnt even put pointed ears on ONE elf. WTF cheap bastards. I guess if you didnt read the book then it would be alright but i personaly was apalled by this movie.....its like putting the lord of the rings into an hour show. Crap.If anyone has read/seen the movie id like to know what you think (dont know if many people have lol). I also didnt know if this should be writing/role playing section but w/e

[Z3R0]

I read Earagon and Eldest. By the time I finished Eldest, the third one was coming out. I thought they were both excellent. They were long and very detailed, also full of action.

[PoTatoes]

I read them both, and their both superb. The guy who writes it is a wonderful writer and im looking forward to the third book.

[Z3R0]

Well, as Eragon was a Blue book, and Eldest was a Red book, I forget the title of the third one but I know that it is a Green book. Also, can you believe that the author was only about 18 when he started writing these? That is just amazing, he is doing what most people have to work at for years.

[Fuggle]

I see most people hate his writing style though, they say it's too... stolen? People say he nabbed all sorts of shit from LOTR and various other things, but by this point everything is somewhat similar to each other. Besides whenever the writer has an interview he's the most ****iest son of a bitch ever. He thinks he wrote the best books ever. I thought they were pretty good though, don't think I plan on seeing the movie though.

[Blue]

yeah i read both books many times, i read the second (for the first time i read it) in 2 days
i have let to see the movie though

[AngelOfSin]

dont go see the movie its very dissapointing lol...after reading the books the movie is like puting LOTR into an hour show it's gay. As for the thrid book i thot it was supposed to be yellow? (or gold w/e).

[PoTatoes]

My friends watched it and i ditched them to watch Deck the Halls :p. Afterwards I heard them complaining how much they hated the movie.

[Z3R0]

Derivative nature of the books

Numerous critics have cited the books for their derivative nature. The two most commonly discussed sources are Star Wars (due to a strikingly similar plot[3]) and The Lord of the Rings (due to the setting, elven[4][5] and dwarven races[4], the language[4] and character names). Even many positive reviews note that the work pulls strongly from the conventions of fantasy, in character, dialogue and concepts.[6]
School Library Journal's review of Eragon was positive, yet lukewarm, noting that it compares unfavorably to Tolkien and is overly simplistic in its resolution of plot issues[7]. The Journal's review of Eldest was more negative, noting the book drew heavily upon fantasy conventions and the work of Tolkien (The Lord of the Rings), Anne McCaffrey (Dragonriders of Pern), and George Lucas (Star Wars), but still thought it would find reception among fans despite its lack of originality.[8]
Common Sense Media, a family-friendly review site, was particularly scathing, calling Eragon's dialogue long-winded and clichéd, with a plot "straight out of Star Wars by way of The Lord of the Rings, with bits of other great fantasies thrown in here and there." The website did concede that the book is a notable achievement for such a young author, and it would be appreciated by younger fans, but still labeled it "overblown and derivative."[3] USAToday also alleged strong echoes of Star Wars in Eragon's plot[4], while Entertainment Weekly writes that the plot closely resembles that of the original The Lord of the Rings saga.[9] Generally, Eragon was seen as a moderately worthwhile venture into the genre, while Eldest offered little Eragon had not already given - generally the books are recommended for younger readers.

Inheritance Trilogy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

IMO: I think them saying it is like LOTR just because it features elves, dwarves, and the such, is a very shallow point of view. I mean, C.S. Lewis wrote the Narnia books from 1949-1954. The Lord of the Rings books, including the Hobbit, came out about the same time. Tolkien and Lewis were very close friends, and Lewis inspired Tolkien to write The Hobbit. So if someone writes a book that contains key elements such as elves and the like, why do people think they copied other original works? There are a lot of older books out there, some of which are in my possesion, that came out a very long time before Lewis' or Tolkien's works. Yet, I have never heard it mentioned that either of them took ideas from previous works. About the kids arrogant attitude, I don't know. I just know his books do not resemble LOTR or Star Wars to me. His books hold a lot of original material that isn't relativly found in either.

[Fuggle]

There's more to it than just the Dwarves and Elves etc, that's a given in many fantasy type things nowadays, hell look at Warcraft, but it also has other elements similar to it in nature. The Language is a big one for example. Also the old Aragon = Eragon, Arwen = Arya, and so forth.

[AngelOfSin]

I mostly agree...however I do think it resemble LOTR in some* ways but most of the plot, etc is original and I personally like the books very much. Interesting article.

[Blue]

Derivative nature of the books

Numerous critics have cited the books for their derivative nature. The two most commonly discussed sources are Star Wars (due to a strikingly similar plot[3]) and The Lord of the Rings (due to the setting, elven[4][5] and dwarven races[4], the language[4] and character names). Even many positive reviews note that the work pulls strongly from the conventions of fantasy, in character, dialogue and concepts.[6]
School Library Journal's review of Eragon was positive, yet lukewarm, noting that it compares unfavorably to Tolkien and is overly simplistic in its resolution of plot issues[7]. The Journal's review of Eldest was more negative, noting the book drew heavily upon fantasy conventions and the work of Tolkien (The Lord of the Rings), Anne McCaffrey (Dragonriders of Pern), and George Lucas (Star Wars), but still thought it would find reception among fans despite its lack of originality.[8]
Common Sense Media, a family-friendly review site, was particularly scathing, calling Eragon's dialogue long-winded and clichéd, with a plot "straight out of Star Wars by way of The Lord of the Rings, with bits of other great fantasies thrown in here and there." The website did concede that the book is a notable achievement for such a young author, and it would be appreciated by younger fans, but still labeled it "overblown and derivative."[3] USAToday also alleged strong echoes of Star Wars in Eragon's plot[4], while Entertainment Weekly writes that the plot closely resembles that of the original The Lord of the Rings saga.[9] Generally, Eragon was seen as a moderately worthwhile venture into the genre, while Eldest offered little Eragon had not already given - generally the books are recommended for younger readers.

Inheritance Trilogy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

IMO: I think them saying it is like LOTR just because it features elves, dwarves, and the such, is a very shallow point of view. I mean, C.S. Lewis wrote the Narnia books from 1949-1954. The Lord of the Rings books, including the Hobbit, came out about the same time. Tolkien and Lewis were very close friends, and Lewis inspired Tolkien to write The Hobbit. So if someone writes a book that contains key elements such as elves and the like, why do people think they copied other original works? There are a lot of older books out there, some of which are in my possesion, that came out a very long time before Lewis' or Tolkien's works. Yet, I have never heard it mentioned that either of them took ideas from previous works. About the kids arrogant attitude, I don't know. I just know his books do not resemble LOTR or Star Wars to me. His books hold a lot of original material that isn't relativly found in either.

theres so many written things, movies, and games. how can one not copy from another in a little way or another. i think this thing was in honest, but he sorta had to copy another book or more because theres a book for everything