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So what if he does not want to support his country or the war effort? It's not like we get to pick where we are born. I'm not saying I'm not happy for being born in the united states but most of the people in the united states don't deserve someone to fight for them. I'd fight and die for my own freedom or for those around me but I really can't say I would fight for the average US citizen or some assholes in congress sitting comfortably in there chairs safe out of way.
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Yes other countries have bloody histories.The point(OMG I hate to even say there is one)
of this thread was to forstall a draft. That in and of itself is retarded.There won't be one.
We are not a dictatorship as some countries in the past HAVE BEEN.
On a side note,if your sorry ass has to be MADE to help your country,,,stay the **** away from ME when on the frontline!!
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Aemaeth Wrote:I'm a coward because i couldn't join if i wanted?
When it comes down to it, yes, i would fight if england was invaded, otherwise, no.
You can't just say people who don't want to join the army without the draft are cowards either. I don't see you in the army right now spoon.
I never said you were a coward because you couldn't join. I said most of these people are the same types who would dodge a draft during a time of crisis. That's right, I said MOST. Also, I couldn't join either, thanks to asthma I couldn't run like the military would like me too.
I'm not saying you have to support our motives or even like our government in the slightest, even those of us who voted for Bush are irritated with some of the things he's done. I think that calling someone stupid for fighting for something they believe in is just downright dumb and probably means the one slinging such comments would not do the same even if they believed in the cause.
So, even if you don't support the war at least support the troops, I mean they are putting their lives on the line. Nothing is more disheartening for a soldier than to hear that the people back home HOPE he fails or that he gets pulled out leaving the job his friends died for unfinished.
FraterPerdurabo Wrote:You know what Pam, you can just **** right off. The U.S. is no exception to any other country in the world, we've all had our bloody histories and our civil wars. You are no different to us. My ancestors fought and died for my freedom, just like your ancestors died for yours. If I don't want to go to serve in some bureaucrat's oil war, then I will not (not that I'll have to, tee-hee). Sure, I'm a nationalist and a patriot, but I will only take up a weapon for self-defence. If my country is being invaded, I'll go and enlist and fight with my life. But I will never, ever join the brainwashed horde who believe everything that their corrupt government tells them and sacrifice my life so that they can have a higher salary. The entire war in Iraq is founded on lies and propaganda. If you want to go and fight for your almighty President, be my guest, but people should never be forced to sacrifice their lives for a corrupt cabinet.
Nobody is being forced, that's the point of what I've been saying about the draft. The men and women fighting in Iraq are not there for oil, even if that's what many believe it's about, they're there for their own personal reasons...like saving a third world country from murderous dictators, or stopping corrupt clan leaders from warring with each other in the streets killing hundreds of innocents.
I have one last thing to say to this comment and that's this:
Quote:...I will only take up a weapon for self-defence.
What about in someone else's defence?
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SpoonMan999 Wrote:Pam, I love you. Marry me?
I'm first damn it all. Back of the line she's mine!
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Obfuscate Wrote:I'm first damn it all. Back of the line she's mine!
Last man standing gets dibs.
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And so the thread has lost interest.
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Fuggle Wrote:And so the thread has lost interest. You should know better.
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Funny how my one comment could derail the entire thread.
New topic!
Dolphins, adorable? Or a threat to all we hold dear?
It has been known for some time that dolphins can set people a flame using their minds and are in fact fully capable of conquering Earth. Do we nuke the oceans or risk fighting them at close range? DISCUSS
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Sharks and whales are more of a threat. Whales can eat entire continents and sharks have lasers for eyes.
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This is true, but neither has a dolphin's cunning.
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If dolphins are so made of awesome, why don't nations replace their naval military with them?
Oh, and on the other part, I can't say I'd sign up for the military, but if I did/had to, I wouldn't be part of the fighting force or whatever it is, I'd probably end up as a military journalist or something. Not that I'd know what I'm writing about. Not everybody fits the military type, and I'm one who doesn't, so I doubt they'd want me anyways. Patriotic doesn't mean I have to be some Guns Blazin' McGee persona. Ok, I know so little about military I better just stop now.
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What's a dolphin? Is it bigger than a breadbox?Someone help me out here....
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Pamela Wrote:What's a dolphin? Is it bigger than a breadbox?Someone help me out here....
They are about the size of a four story building and are made entirely out of stainless steal.
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No, no, it's not stainless, it's titanium alloy. The stuff the shuttles are made out of. And sharks don't have lasers for eyes, they have giant lasers strapped to their backs, like in Austin Powers.
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You've obviously never met one.
Those ****s are nasty, Just not as nasty as those puppies. With the acid drool and all.
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What about the kittens that shoot poisoned needles out of their paws, or the mice that secretly plant poison in your food before you eat it unsuspecting?
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You're all paranoid! Here you are going off of conspiracies ignoring the dolphin threat! This is what the dolphins want! You're letting them win!
(My powers of derailment amaze even me at this point.)
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Wow...
SpoonMan999 Wrote:You're all paranoid! Here you are going off of conspiracies ignoring the dolphin threat! This is what the dolphins want! You're letting them win!
It is possible that the dolphins have infiltrated our forums and have swayed this thread off topic.
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We must raise awareness then! Kill the dolphins before they kill us.
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Some random dude is trippin on acid somewhere thinking about Dolphins controlling the world just like this when he uses stumble upon and comes right on this thread. Shits himself on the spot. I know it.
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